When is the deployment card oriented and who does the orientation?
Assuming asymmetrical boards, I would guess this would need to be decided before any Battle Cards have been eliminated.
When is the deployment card oriented and who does the orientation?
Assuming asymmetrical boards, I would guess this would need to be decided before any Battle Cards have been eliminated.
17 minutes ago, Screwtape said:When is the deployment card oriented and who does the orientation?
Step 4 of Setup (p. 6 in the RRG). This determines who is the red and blue player, and who is on which long side of the board. That will determine which way the deployment card is oriented when it is chosen during step 6.
Edited by TuranQuoteSelect Player Color and Sides: The player whose army has
the lowest point total chooses to be either the red player
or the blue player. Then, the blue player chooses one of the
long table edges and sets their army near that edge. The
red player takes the other long table edge. If both players’
armies have the same point total, roll a die or flip a coin to
determine which player chooses to be red or blue.
This? Unless I'm reading this wrong, this rule doesn't mention card orientation. I took the, "Then, the blue player chooses one of the long table edges and sets their army near that edge. The red player takes the other long table edge." sentence as more of a housekeeping rule. Selecting where to physically place your game components. I could see how this and the orientation of the card "Battle Lines" could be the same, but what about "The Long March" or "Disarray"?
Both players would want to know the orientation of the deployment cards before eliminating any of them.
27 minutes ago, Screwtape said:Both players would want to know the orientation of the deployment cards before eliminating any of them.
Once you decide who is blue/red player you have you orientation as it doesn’t matter how you rotate the card there will always be a long table edge on both sides . Take disarray for example if you are blue player what even long table edge you take you will be deploying in the bottom left and top right .
39 minutes ago, Steelgolem said:Once you decide who is blue/red player you have you orientation as it doesn’t matter how you rotate the card there will always be a long table edge on both sides . Take disarray for example if you are blue player what even long table edge you take you will be deploying in the bottom left and top right .
What about "The Long March"?
Actually the rule you are looking for is just after the part you quoted. You quoted bullet no. 4 and it is bullet no.5.
The blues player orientates the cards .
This is the quote you’re looking for:
QuoteReveal Battle Cards: Shuffle the objective, deployment, and condition decks separately. Then, draw and reveal three cards from each deck, laying out each category in a horizontal row oriented right side up according to the blue player’s side of the battlefield.
The cards should be facing the blue player.
Edited by nashjaee
1 hour ago, toffolone said:Actually the rule you are looking for is just after the part you quoted. You quoted bullet no. 4 and it is bullet no.5.
The blues player orientates the cards .
So given this board:
This card
Should look like this?
So blue deploys to the right side of the above board?
7 minutes ago, Darth Lupine said:Correct.
Can you give me an argument why the right side is correct and the left side is incorrect?
2 minutes ago, Screwtape said:Can you give me an argument why the right side is correct and the left side is incorrect?
Setup on page 6. Bullet point 4 says that blue player selects one of the long edges. Then bullet point 5 says to layout the cards facing blue player. That determines the orientation for deployment.
4 minutes ago, nashjaee said:Setup on page 6. Bullet point 4 says that blue player selects one of the long edges. Then bullet point 5 says to layout the cards facing blue player. That determines the orientation for deployment.
Yes! No need to twist the card. Makes sense!
Thanks!
2 hours ago, Screwtape said:Yes! No need to twist the card. Makes sense!
Thanks!
Yep! What @nashjaee said.
Why is the orientation of the cards relevant enough to warrant having a rule for it?
54 minutes ago, Albertese said:Why is the orientation of the cards relevant enough to warrant having a rule for it?
It only matters for some of the deployment cards (Disarray doesn't matter, for example, because it has rotational symmetry), because how you orient the cards affects where each player's deployment zone would be. It does make a difference whether or not blue player is allowed to orient as they like, or if the orientation is prescribed by the rules. Especially when you factor terrain into the equation. @Screwtape 's specific question about Long March is a good example. Which side does blue player get? It depends on which way you hold the card.
Obviously, it doesn't matter one bit for objective and condition cards.
@nashjaee that's a fair point. Thanks!
Terrain is supposed to be set up before you choose deployments and missions, etc. It definitely matters for that.