They said Executor was too big for Armada but it's been announced now.
Do does this prove that an AT-AT will make its way to Legion one day as a super large model?
They said Executor was too big for Armada but it's been announced now.
Do does this prove that an AT-AT will make its way to Legion one day as a super large model?
There was never any chance that FFG was not doing the AT-ST. As surely as the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West, the AT-AT is coming.
I don't think they will do the AT-AT cause it is too big. I also didn't think they do the SSD cause it is too big.
However if the SSD is $200 wth will the AT-AT be?
1 million dollars
Edited by emsgoofWell, one of my reservations about Legion was the scale. I just don't see this scale as viable for an AT-AT. In some ways, I would have liked a smaller scale so that AT-AT's could have been included as normal, but now you are talking about full scale planetary assault with entire battalions or divisions of troops and equipment. Sounds cool, but now we are talking about a different game.
I think it could, and probably will happen....but not for 3 years....and you'll need to endure an entire year of hearing nothing but a vague rumor of 'something big...'
Just like I've always been excited for the SSD in Armada, I'm very hopeful for a giant AT AT in legion.
they really should have scaled Legion down, so it was something like the equivalent to armada for Xwing. Rebels dont seem to be a war gaming faction. as much as i dislike the prequels, it seems like a scaled down clone wars war game would have been better
Also, "if x, then y" logic doesn't apply to CCP games. The self contained statement "There will be an AT-AT in SW Legion." will suffice.
7 hours ago, Woobyluv said:Well, one of my reservations about Legion was the scale. I just don't see this scale as viable for an AT-AT. In some ways, I would have liked a smaller scale so that AT-AT's could have been included as normal, but now you are talking about full scale planetary assault with entire battalions or divisions of troops and equipment. Sounds cool, but now we are talking about a different game.
Palpatine blows it all up the same way. If the head of a state is racing around with a couple dozen men trying to steal crates, wtf is going on? A single AT-AT is nothing compared to that.
7 hours ago, Spidey NZ said:they really should have scaled Legion down, so it was something like the equivalent to armada for Xwing. Rebels dont seem to be a war gaming faction. as much as i dislike the prequels, it seems like a scaled down clone wars war game would have been better
15 mm Clone Wars would be quite interesting. And the models would be fairly easy to paint too.
my fear with the ATAT is the same fear i had with the SSD
Its not scale. FFG has downscaled a LOT already. The SSD is only roughly 3/8 the size it technically should be compared to the ISD we got. They said its 30", the ISD is 7", which should mean the SSD should be 83" lol
ATAT will probably be scaled down a bit to only be about 1.5x the height of the ATST
The problem comes in what would the rebels get? This is why i was flabbergasted when people wanted Armada to be ATAT-scale, where the ATAT were about 4" tall or something and troops were depicted like in Flames of War (a squad on a single base with tiny dudes). What do the rebels have in relative size or impact? I cant think of any time they took out an ATAT without the speeder tripwire or fighter support (and even then the fighter support mostly pissed them off until they hit a weak spot)
Same goes for the SSD. The only SSDs that have been taken down were either ... cinematically killed by an Awing or heavily undermanned and caught alone.
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I think it could be cool for missions! Like set up very asymmetrical objective situations. Sort of like X-Wing epic play was a different set up than normal X-Wing but compatible.
I don't think you could add into a normal game and have it be workable - unless it was a unit for Grand Army games only and cost 800 pts by itself and was it's own commander.
12 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:The problem comes in what would the rebels get?
There's more than a few tanks in the old EU that could be included, or in the theoretical 15mm game, air support, and more effective T-47s. It could be done, but I agree it would be interesting.
Basically the only thing I think the Armada SSD proves 100% to me is that FFG Loves Money. Which isn't really a surprise to be honest.
I don't think it's proof, but it is a mark in the "Yes AT-AT" column. I think an AT-AT model would be a bit harder than the Executor, but on the other hand, they've proven they're willing to go a little nuts.
Star Wars 1977 proved that kids love their space dollies so much parents will buy them lots and lots of plastic.
FFG 2018 is just continuing this time honored tradition!
Yes there will be at at in a year or 2.
4 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:Palpatine blows it all up the same way. If the head of a state is racing around with a couple dozen men trying to steal crates, wtf is going on? A single AT-AT is nothing compared to that.
A valid point that mirrors my own sentiments.
4 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:Palpatine blows it all up the same way. If the head of a state is racing around with a couple dozen men trying to steal crates, wtf is going on? A single AT-AT is nothing compared to that.
I really don’t think this is true. Palpatine “blows it up” because it’s incongruous with the theme of the game. An AT AT is simply out of scale. It would take up a full half if the board and then what would you do with it? How do you include terrain or maneuver the thing? It’s not that it doesn’t make sense - it makes perfect sense. It’s just that it’s unworkable. Palpatine is the opposite. He’s perfectly and obviously workable.
If Forge World can make a £1000 + huge Warlord Titan and sells it repeatedly, then an AT AT isn't out the realms of possibility. It wont be exactly to scale but it will be awesome.
15 minutes ago, Tonytt1642 said:If Forge World can make a £1000 + huge Warlord Titan and sells it repeatedly, then an AT AT isn't out the realms of possibility. It wont be exactly to scale but it will be awesome.
The main difference in your comparison is Forge World is a subdivision of a larger company specializing in small run direct mail order only. Those £1000 + huge Warlord Titans aren't being shipped out to hobby stores worldwide, so only a relatively small number need to be kept in stock at Forge World, unlike all of FFG's miniatures.
1 hour ago, BigBadAndy said:I really don’t think this is true. Palpatine “blows it up” because it’s incongruous with the theme of the game. An AT AT is simply out of scale. It would take up a full half if the board and then what would you do with it? How do you include terrain or maneuver the thing? It’s not that it doesn’t make sense - it makes perfect sense. It’s just that it’s unworkable. Palpatine is the opposite. He’s perfectly and obviously workable.
They'll just wreck it's scale like every other game company that's ever included it, and make rules that don't reflect it's "real" self, in order to sell lots of model kits. Ta-da! Back in scale with the game. Pygmy AT-AT's will be the order of the day.
1 minute ago, TauntaunScout said:They'll just wreck it's scale like every other game company that's ever included it, and make rules that don't reflect it's "real" self, in order to sell lots of model kits. Ta-da! Back in scale with the game. Pygmy AT-AT's will be the order of the day.
To be fair, even in the new canon media they've used a sliding scale and just called the larger/smaller AT-ATs new "variants." I do agree that getting the "feel" right while maintaining game balance will be very difficult.
5 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:The main difference in your comparison is Forge World is a subdivision of a larger company specializing in small run direct mail order only. Those £1000 + huge Warlord Titans aren't being shipped out to hobby stores worldwide, so only a relatively small number need to be kept in stock at Forge World, unlike all of FFG's miniatures.
I don't think it will be to scale. The AT ST and especially the Speeder aren't. And it wont be anywhere the size of that. It will be something that can be shipped to retailors. Was more just to point out that there is a market for bigger models and that something like that is technically possible.
Just now, Caimheul1313 said:To be fair, even in the new canon media they've used a sliding scale and just called the larger/smaller AT-ATs new "variants." I do agree that getting the "feel" right while maintaining game balance will be very difficult.
I guesstimate a true scale AT-AT would take about 1/4 length of the usual 6x3ish battlefield. If AT-AT's are 20 meters and the game is 1/50th. But I am bad at math and didn't double check if the above "20" and "1/50" are correct.
2 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:I guesstimate a true scale AT-AT would take about 1/4 length of the usual 6x3ish battlefield. If AT-AT's are 20 meters and the game is 1/50th. But I am bad at math and didn't double check if the above "20" and "1/50" are correct.
Speeder and AT ST aren't true scale so I don't think a potential AT AT would be.
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