Now this is were I am not sure about. If a unit "A" activates and uses one action to moves into to range of a stand by unit "B". The stand by unit "B" fires and gives a suppression to the unit "A" that moves, when that unit "A" goes back to a perform action step does it lose its second action?

Under the references book under suppression, it says during "perform actions step" if a unit has suppression it will lose a action.

That line states :

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During the “Perform Actions” step of a trooper unit’s activation, if it has a number of suppression tokens assigned to it that is equal to or greater than its courage value, a player can perform only one action instead of two (plus any number of free actions).

Bolded underlined bit is the word you are looking for.
So yes, performing an action then getting suppressed reduces your effective number actions down to 1, that you have already performed to trigger the standby that caused the suppression.


Otherwise they would have stated "at the beggining of" or any similar wording.

37 minutes ago, Deuzerre said:

That line states :

Bolded underlined bit is the word you are looking for.
So yes, performing an action then getting suppressed reduces your effective number actions down to 1, that you have already performed to trigger the standby that caused the suppression.


Otherwise they would have stated "at the beggining of" or any similar wording.

Actually, we have an email that clarifies you only check for suppression/actions in the Rally step. Gaining a suppression during your activation does not reduce your actions. There is indeed a conflict in the RAW, and Alex mentions it will be updated. It’s one of the images in this post:

Argh, are they afraid of standby being actually good?
There are fewer and fewer incentives on this actually being used.

7 hours ago, Deuzerre said:

Argh, are they afraid of standby being actually good?
There are fewer and fewer incentives on this actually being used.

No, they don't like the reverse of this. A unit has multiple suppression tokens just recovers, thus gaining it's second action back.

Just change recover to be an "end activation" ability then

1 hour ago, Amanal said:

No, they don't like the reverse of this. A unit has multiple suppression tokens just recovers, thus gaining it's second action back.

I would argue they still only had the one action for their activation since they did have suppression tokens during their activation. However, I do prefer the number of actions being set during Rally, the idea of not just taking the hit but losing your action from someone shooting on Standby feels weird to me.

4 hours ago, Turan said:

the idea of not just taking the hit but losing your action from someone shooting on Standby feels weird to me.

Sarge: Charge through the door!
Soldiers moving through the door getting spread all over the wall: Haaaaaaaaaaaa
Surviving guys: NOPE. I'll stay put if you don't mind, Sarge.

13 hours ago, Deuzerre said:

Just change recover to be an "end activation" ability then

If you only have 1 action because of suppression it is.

13 hours ago, Deuzerre said:

Sarge: Charge through the door!
Soldiers moving through the door getting spread all over the wall: Haaaaaaaaaaaa
Surviving guys: NOPE. I'll stay put if you don't mind, Sarge.

I don't parse game rules through a thematic viewpoint. I understand your point, but it feels clunky to me to consider modifying how many actions you get mid-activation.

1 hour ago, Turan said:

I don't parse game rules through a thematic viewpoint. I understand your point, but it feels clunky to me to consider modifying how many actions you get mid-activation.

Well, I just see (saw) it as a parameter to take into account, just like the expected losses from the overwatch actually reducing my attack pool.

Wrong thread

On ‎5‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 7:26 PM, Deuzerre said:

Just change recover to be an "end activation" ability then

If you did that then the actions/weapons you have to exhaust to use need to have their points reduced because you can't recover and fire in the same turn anymore.

If standby triggers and I want to make a rangeattack, which range can I use?

Only range 1-2 or my weaponrange.

5 hours ago, ag.balin said:

If standby triggers and I want to make a rangeattack, which range can I use?

Only range 1-2 or my weaponrange.

The weapon's range. And you can attack anything, not just the unit that triggered your standby. You're just performing an attack action per the typical attack rules.