Leaving the battlefield

By Katonate, in Rules

Under leaving the battlefield it states "if at any time a unit leader ends it's movement with any part of it's base outside the battlefield that unit is defeated"

However under movement it says " if a unit leader performs a move that causes any part of it's base to leave the battlefield that unit is defeated".

Example a t-47 airspeeder does it's complusory move by angling the template he is able to finish on the board but the movement would cause at least part of his base to leave the battlefield

As long as they end their move with their base on the battlefield they’re safe. So yes, you can have the template go off and back onto the board.

3 hours ago, Patteous said:

As long as they end their move with their base on the battlefield they’re safe. So yes, you can have the template go off and back onto the board.

You actually have to run the miniature along the template, as if it were moving along the path. This is because you have to check during the whole movement if your base would at any time cross over terrain or features (such as the edge of the battlefield) that would cause it to stop (so you can't execute a maneuver if the edge of your base clips a terrain feature that it can't bypass, for example) and take damage (as a result of a compulsory movement).

In doing so, if your leader's base goes off the board, even if you haven't reached the end of the template, that unit is destroyed.

Page 33 of the RRG:

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Full: Holding the movement tool in place, the player lifts up the unit leader mini and moves it along the path of the movement tool, keeping the mini’s base centered in
relation to the width of the tool. Then, if the mini has an unnotched base, the player places the mini’s base flush against the other end of the movement tool; if the mini
has a notched base, the player places the mini so the other end of the movement tool is inserted into the rear notch of the mini’s base.

Partial: Holding the movement tool in place, the player lifts up the unit leader mini and moves it along the path of the movement tool, keeping the mini’s base centered
in relation to the width of the tool. Then, the player places the mini anywhere along the path created by the movement tool, moving the movement tool out of the way and placing the mini on the battlefield. When placing a mini with a notched base during a partial move, the unit must be placed such that the central axis of the mini’s front and back notches is parallel to the section of the movement tool the mini reached at the furthest part of its move.

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  • While moving a mini along a path created by a movement tool, if the base of the mini is impeded by an object, that mini must stop its movement prematurely unless the

mini can legally move through, over, or on top of the obstructing object.

Page 34:

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  • While performing a standard move or a reverse, if it is obvious that the mini will be unimpeded while moving along the path created by the movement tool, the mini can be placed directly at its final destination.
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  • If a unit leader performs a move that causes any part of its base to leave the battlefield, that unit is destroyed.

That is how I interpret it as well but under leaving the battlefield it is stated differently

I would disagree:

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• If a unit leader performs a move that causes any part of its base to leave the battlefield , that unit is destroyed.

Emphasis mine. If you then refer to leaving the battlefield:

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If at any time a unit leader ends its movement with any part of its base outside of the battlefield, that unit is defeated.

Not only that, but if a Speeder (though any compulsory move is implied here) would end up leaving the battlefield, they do not have to perform the full move at the cost of taking damage.

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To perform a compulsory move, the unit performs a full move at its maximum speed. If it cannot do so, or if a full move would cause any part of the unit leader’s base to be outside the battlefield, it can perform a partial move instead, ending its movement as far along the movement template as possible. If the unit performs a partial movement in this way, the unit suffers a number of wounds equal to its maximum speed. If the unit leader ends this movement with any part of its base outside of the battlefield, the unit is defeated.

Basically, it is almost impossible to have a unit actually leave the battlefield outside of Panic movement as even Speeder (possibly any compulsory) can opt not to make a full move.

Morale of the story: The RRG is poorly laid out and there several places with contradictions (movement, cover, LOS, etc).

Hence my confusion. The two statements are different about the same issue

For leaving the battlefield, the only thing that counts is where the unit ends.

1 hour ago, Katonate said:

Hence my confusion. The two statements are different about the same issue

I believe his point is that “leave the battlefield” should be read as a keyword in the game, not it’s base English definition.

So basically replace the “leave the battlefield” text in the movement section with the definition from “leaving the battlefield”.

In that way, there is no discrepancy in wording.

Edited by Thoras