Since we don't have a tactics sub-forum yet I'll start this off here.

It seems like most of the speculation so far, and it is speculation until we get a full RRG, has been focused on traditional Imperial vs Rebel games. What about the inevitable Rebel vs Rebel or Imperial vs Imperial games that we will end up playing.

How does Nimble work when both sides have it? What happens when Vader meets Vader on the field of battle? My favorite at the moment, how about T-47's chasing each other across the battlefield?

Discuss...

I would love to discuss, but the mods STILL don’t allow others to see my comments. Why so authoritarian here?

14 minutes ago, NeonWolf said:

Since we don't have a tactics sub-forum yet I'll start this off here.

It seems like most of the speculation so far, and it is speculation until we get a full RRG, has been focused on traditional Imperial vs Rebel games. What about the inevitable Rebel vs Rebel or Imperial vs Imperial games that we will end up playing.

How does Nimble work when both sides have it? What happens when Vader meets Vader on the field of battle? My favorite at the moment, how about T-47's chasing each other across the battlefield?

Discuss...

rebel vs rebel will be a damage race as dodge doesn't make up for the red defense die, and as rebel damage is far more consistent forces are going to melt fast, objectives or no.

Imp vs imp on the otherhand is going to be far more tactical, best use of heroes and objectives is going to win the day.

Or, AT-ST's shooting Mortars at each other from across the table. Not much damage being done, just for the mind game!!

Storm-troopers in melee combat with Storm-troopers........Good reason to do something original as opposed to the old Imperial Grey paint job?

1 hour ago, NeonWolf said:

My favorite at the moment, how about T-47's chasing each other across the battlefield?

This is where that harpoon gun will be crucial. I’m debating taking it right now, but I feel like with it you’re guaranteed not to get followed by any enemy T-47s on the outskirts of the board. Even if you’re the one following, do a 1 pip command, a full 180 pivot with Wedge, and force the enemy in front of the board.

At least that’s how it plays out in my head.

43 minutes ago, ColMustang66 said:

This is where that harpoon gun will be crucial. I’m debating taking it right now, but I feel like with it you’re guaranteed not to get followed by any enemy T-47s on the outskirts of the board. Even if you’re the one following, do a 1 pip command, a full 180 pivot with Wedge, and force the enemy in front of the board.

At least that’s how it plays out in my head.

The harpoon gun against a T-47 has a 1/12 hit rate. So it'll be awesome when it goes off but won't very often.

3 minutes ago, Orcdruid said:

The harpoon gun against a T-47 has a 1/12 hit rate. So it'll be awesome when it goes off but won't very often.

You know, I almost wonder if impact ought to trigger before dodges and cover. Because as is, it's going to be an uphill battle for low-dice impact weapons like the mpl-57 to actually hit airspeeders unless you use your blaster rifle for sacrificial dice. Since you need both dice to hit (Only about a 50% chance of that), and the airspeeder has a 33% chance of shrugging that hit off even then. The DLT-19 fares a bit better with over a 75% chance of generating two hits, but that's still risky.

Granted, both factions can pack 3 of those things for the same price as an Airspeeder, but man, the T-47 is going to be a pain to take down.

24 minutes ago, Squark said:

...Granted, both factions can pack 3 of those things for the same price as an Airspeeder, but man, the T-47 is going to be a pain to take down.

I certainly hope so! The airspeeder was the first "real vehicle" toy I ever gotnwhen I was a kid. The fact that it was the first HEAVY choice for the Rebels in Legion is what decided my faction choice.

As for mortars shooting AT-ST's, it wouldn't have any effect since the mortars just drop supresson tokens and the vehicles can't be suppressed.

26 minutes ago, NeonWolf said:

As for mortars shooting AT-ST's, it wouldn't have any effect since the mortars just drop supresson tokens and the vehicles can't be suppressed.

I think that was the joke.

1 hour ago, NeonWolf said:

I certainly hope so! The airspeeder was the first "real vehicle" toy I ever gotnwhen I was a kid. The fact that it was the first HEAVY choice for the Rebels in Legion is what decided my faction choice.

As for mortars shooting AT-ST's, it wouldn't have any effect since the mortars just drop supresson tokens and the vehicles can't be suppressed.

The mortars can do damage though.

3 hours ago, Jabby said:

The mortars can do damage though.

Why yes, yes they can. You are correct, sir!

Now, imagine a game with short-edge deployment and a block of Vader and Snowtroopers on each end...

7 hours ago, Jabby said:

The mortars can do damage though.

Against another AT-ST, not much, but maybe

3 x white won't get many crits and the AT-ST has defensive surge! So like I said not much damage to be gained, but hay you might use an aim action and get that super lucky roll.....Would be fun to be the one dishing it out.

Tbh mirror match games are gonna be hard when it comes to stormies

Just for the record I am painting up a T-47 with an Imperial paint scheme. I will do the same for an AT-RT. I will also paint up an AT-ST to look like it was salvaged from several units by the rebels. Gonna figure out how to give the rebels a pair of speeder bikes. (Rebel spies much like Luke and Han in Stormtrooper armor)

Fight fire with explosives I always say!

7 minutes ago, C3POFETT said:

Just for the record I am painting up a T-47 with an Imperial paint scheme. I will do the same for an AT-RT. I will also paint up an AT-ST to look like it was salvaged from several units by the rebels. Gonna figure out how to give the rebels a pair of speeder bikes. (Rebel spies much like Luke and Han in Stormtrooper armor)

Fight fire with explosives I always say!

An easier way to do the AT-ST would be to have Chewbacca sticking his head out

5 minutes ago, Squark said:

An easier way to do the AT-ST would be to have Chewbacca sticking his head out

I was considering that too by either using a WotC miniature or using an Imperial Assault Chewbacca (most likely choice for scale) and just trim him from the waist down and glue him in. My only thought was that I wouldn't want a second Chewbacca on the table once he is introduced so maybe just a rebel trooper on the top or just paint him as a generic wookie.

On 2/19/2018 at 8:35 PM, Squark said:

You know, I almost wonder if impact ought to trigger before dodges and cover. Because as is, it's going to be an uphill battle for low-dice impact weapons like the mpl-57 to actually hit airspeeders unless you use your blaster rifle for sacrificial dice. Since you need both dice to hit (Only about a 50% chance of that), and the airspeeder has a 33% chance of shrugging that hit off even then. The DLT-19 fares a bit better with over a 75% chance of generating two hits, but that's still risky.

Granted, both factions can pack 3 of those things for the same price as an Airspeeder, but man, the T-47 is going to be a pain to take down.

It’s an order of operations issue. Dodge and Cover only work against normal hits, not crits, and Armor cancels normal hits.

So the airspeeder, for example, would have no use for cover and armor.

30 minutes ago, Derrault said:

It’s an order of operations issue. Dodge and Cover only work against normal hits, not crits, and Armor cancels normal hits.

So the airspeeder, for example, would have no use for cover and armor.

The cover 1 stat that it has is so a hit can be cancelled before it can be modified to a crit.

1 hour ago, Timinater said:

The cover 1 stat that it has is so a hit can be cancelled before it can be modified to a crit.

Yes, that’s why I said it wouldn’t make sense for impact to happen first, it would negate the entire purpose of cover on the speeder.

Mirror match? I guess Luke vs. Luuke has been done before.

Don't know why Joruus didn't see fit to make a Vaader though.

Mirror match? I guess Luke vs. Luuke has been done before.

Don't know why Joruus didn't see fit to make a Vaader though.

On 19/02/2018 at 11:34 PM, DarkJello said:

I would love to discuss, but the mods STILL don’t allow others to see my comments. Why so authoritarian here?

puzzeled by this.... or is it that people havent reacted to what you posted in the past?

10 minutes ago, slasher956 said:

puzzeled by this.... or is it that people havent reacted to what you posted in the past?

Puzzled by what?

58 minutes ago, Sk3tch said:

Puzzled by what?

@Sk3tch this..... are you not seeing anything by @DarkJello ?

On 2/19/2018 at 6:34 PM, DarkJello said:

I would love to discuss, but the mods STILL don’t allow others to see my comments. Why so authoritarian here?

10 minutes ago, slasher956 said:

@Sk3tch this..... are you not seeing anything by @DarkJello ?

When you first sign up, there is a wait period after your first post. It gets reviewed by the mods to prevent bots, spammers, and trolls.