Question over Moon and Bank Job

By Misfit Toy, in Android: Netrunner Rules Questions

Both may be silly questions but have come up the last couple of times a friend and I have played and just wanted to seek clarification on them.

With Estelle Moon, would ice count toward her tokens or just assets?

Using Bank Job ability to activate does there have to be a card in the server to access?

In a server and *protecting* a server are two separate states, so ice doesn’t count.

for bank job, the server has to exist, so if they run on Estelle Moon and you trash her for cards and cash, the run will fizzle. But if the server has ice, then it will still exist and can be Bank Jobbed.

5 hours ago, Grimwalker said:

But if the server has ice, then it will still exist and can be Bank Jobbed.

Even if there are no cards to access?

Yep