5 minutes ago, viedit said:That is "Normal Strength" Poe. Extra strength Poe adds in Primed Thrusters and BB8. Maybe upgrade to LW while you are at it.
That's 90 or 99 points, without a bid. What gods among men can make that worthwile?
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Just now, GreenDragoon said:That's 90 or 99 points, without a bid. What gods among men can make that worthwile?
An angry Rey and a dream.
R4 BO LW
Done
1 minute ago, Kaptin Krunch said:R4 BO LW
Done
You forgot the munition of legend
6 minutes ago, Biophysical said:I assumed it was because it was so easy to get double modded shots anyway.
LW is helps if you miss the full arcdodge or if you have to reposition to instead of lock.
For me if I build Poe I keep him lean so I can jam as many other ships in with him so LW is out for both cost and ship density reasons.
21 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:That means first, he has a harder time against more arcs. And second, he can only pull it off so many times. 2 BB charges, 1 Blackone.
And to go back to the start with this: the turns until these charges are spent have to count and deal damage to allow Poe to brawl it out without the extra efficient arcdodging.
If Poe has fewer charges, and his wingmen are Awings, then I just don't see it.
6 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:You forgot the munition of legend
Harpoons?
Just now, Boom Owl said:Harpoons?
its not a story the Jedi would tell you
Just now, Boom Owl said:Harpoons?
No, proton torpedoes, which are totally different, we swear.
7 minutes ago, jagsba said:For me if I build Poe I keep him lean so I can jam as many other I5 Aces in with him
FTFY
23 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:Yes, I agree. But you can generalize that to: Poe's defense is largely dependent on his arcdodging. That means first, he has a harder time against more arcs. And second, he can only pull it off so many times. 2 BB charges, 1 Blackone. Apparently Kevin is never opening the sfoils, and he knows how to play it. But a Poe without BB can be blocked, and a Poe with BB can be forced to use the BB.
Another point, I remember the discussions about 1.0 Kylo where his weakness was identified as exactly the same: his defense is the arcdodging, and nothing more. Poe has even less agility and the arcdodging is on a timer. So I just don't see him being that good. Fun to play, yes, but relatively fragile for the points he carries around.
I really thinking you're looking at him in a vacuum. The rest of the list gets to shoot at you if you commit to Poe. I don't think you can be convinced until/unless someone convinces you in a game, which clearly hasn't happened.
15 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Why are people still not putting Lone Wolf on Poe?
What am I missing? Bid need?
Not bid specifically, just points available.
10 minutes ago, Biophysical said:I assumed it was because it was so easy to get double modded shots anyway.
That helps.
1 minute ago, Boom Owl said:FTFY
You're not wrong. I'm not quite sure what an ace is though. No one has ever defined it.
Just run Poe / Han.
Be i6.
Have all the mods.
No One will run higher ship count stuff its fine.
5 minutes ago, jagsba said:ace
Higher init things that move before or after they move. Or mid init things that are defensive and also move before or after they move. Also any turret with a reposition.
Edited by Boom Owl17 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:That's 90 or 99 points, without a bid. What gods among men can make that worthwile?
My fully optimized Poe is 96 and does just fine thank you. No BB Droid or torps, either.
1 minute ago, gennataos said:I really thinking you're looking at him in a vacuum. The rest of the list gets to shoot at you if you commit to Poe. I don't think you can be convinced until/unless someone convinces you in a game, which clearly hasn't happened.
The point I started that is because I don't see 3 Awings as a big enough threat.
But yes, I suspect I'm wrong and want to know where/why. Because these lists keep popping up. Same as XXAA, but there I see it a bit more.
3 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Higher init things that move before or after they move. Or mid init things that are defensive and also move before or after they move.
Palob = Ace
got it.
Just now, GreenDragoon said:The point I started that is because I don't see 3 Awings as a big enough threat.
But yes, I suspect I'm wrong and want to know where/why. Because these lists keep popping up. Same as XXAA, but there I see it a bit more.
Oh, I'm on XXAA. I did the XAAA thing and agree it leaves a lot of work for Poe to do.
1 minute ago, gennataos said:Oh, I'm on XXAA. I did the XAAA thing and agree it leaves a lot of work for Poe to do.
Plus Ello and Nien are more fun to fly than just Poe.
6 minutes ago, gennataos said:Oh, I'm on XXAA. I did the XAAA thing and agree it leaves a lot of work for Poe to do.
I've been running XXXA lately and it's got some durability and punch.
27 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:You forgot the munition of legend
I assumed that this was post-nerf.
5 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:I assumed that this was post-nerf.
Maybe™
How much how does the munition of legend need go before its not worth it on Poe?
I'd still pay 11. 12 is where I start to question on Poe because it makes me drop a key upgrade in my trip t70 list.
However, at these prices I wouldn't ever consider it on a ship that's not i6/double mod.
26 minutes ago, prauxim said:How much how does the munition of legend need go before its not worth it on Poe?
I'd still pay 11. 12 is where I start to question on Poe because it makes me drop a key upgrade in my trip t70 list.
However, at these prices I wouldn't ever consider it on a ship that's not i6/double mod.
Torps cost 3x init, floor 6.
3 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:Torps cost 3x init, floor 6.
Bleh. Hope they don't go that route. I'd much rather see different upgrades made viable as opposed to the same upgrades made viable (or unplayable) for everyone.