4 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:

If your reaper doesn't have a hull upgrade you are probably wrong. 

You're probably not wrong.

4 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:

If your reaper doesn't have a hull upgrade you are probably wrong.

If I have shield upgrade instead, does that make me posh?

51 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

If I have shield upgrade instead, does that make me posh?

Vermeil is probably more scary spice than posh spice.

1 hour ago, Cuz05 said:

If I have shield upgrade instead, does that make me posh?

Depends on if you are bidding and whether or not you needed that point elsewhere.

The important thing is paying only 3 points for not just a hit point, but also a full extra hit point to half. The chance that exactly the third hit on your reaper is a crit is pretty low and I'd much rather have crack shot in my list somewhere.

1 hour ago, Cuz05 said:

If I have shield upgrade instead, does that make me posh?

I think the shield is a decent plan on Vermeil because it means that first 4 hit Torpedo tja t hits him doesn't put through a crit if you roll paint with a Focus (or ever if you Evaded).

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Okay @RStan...I played Optics A-wings last night. In 4 games, my three Blue Squadron Recruits took exactly 46 shots at range 2 or 3. I "used" Advanced Optics exactly thrice (roller bb twice and bh once). By contrast, I rolled fb twelve times.

In addition, they took 12 range 1 shots, and I used optics once there (rolled hhb).

Tl;Dr humans may be bad at statistics, but muh dice are, too!

24 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:

roller bb twice

That's why you bring greens with heroic

Or fly fanatical optics. Even better odds, but sadly not an a wing's time on target.

Anyone else, not going to Phoenix, feel like it's pointless to play until Monday?

Just now, gennataos said:

Anyone else, not going to Phoenix, feel like it's pointless to play until Monday? 

Maybe if you are Boba or proton torp dependent. Sure. Otherwise reps is reps and arcs is arcs. Most of the stuff I run will either go untouched at the least or buffed at the best end of the adjustment. Don't care about extended at this point so won't sweat anything there.

1 minute ago, gennataos said:

Anyone else, not going to Phoenix, feel like it's pointless to play until Monday?

No, I got my last league game tonight. Chances are good that I can then take first spot. The cut will be with new points, but I'm not expecting my list to change much or at all, so I'll keep practicing with it anyway. More reps are helpful. If they are against a soon-to-be-exposed OP list, even better. At least to a certain point. I can't touch Boba for example, so that's not much fun.

5 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

That's why you bring greens with heroic 

I bought one wave 2 dropped conversion kit and traded for 2 other copies of optics, and i only own 4 a-wings. My math told me that optics is most effective in swarms because if you're outnumbered you're going to be spending focus on defense. So I rolled with 3A2X and o my gee was it fun. Two games were over in 4 rounds each in my favor. Swarms melt non-reinforce low agi ships!

3 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Anyone else, not going to Phoenix, feel like it's pointless to play until Monday?

Nope. Maybe competitively, but then again I've had a good season and I'm not exactly prize hunting.

6 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Anyone else, not going to Phoenix, feel like it's pointless to play until Monday?

Yep.

4 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Anyone else, not going to Phoenix, feel like it's pointless to play until Monday? 

You can sort of prep for the future. Don't run 200 point squads with obvious suspects like proton torps, Han Gunner, etc. I've been putting in lots of rounds with resistance, hyperspace only squads with a deep bid and no suspects. That way I'll be more than likely able to add material instead of dropping it.

I get what people are saying about getting in more reps, how their list isn't likely to be impacted, etc. But...we don't really know. We don't know if Boba and proton torps are gunna be gutted. We don't know if First Order and Resistance is going to go untouched. I feel, when facing stuff assumed to be impacted, while playing my own stuff assumed to not be impacted, my choices are informed a lot by that disparity. Then I wonder if that game really taught me anything.

Anyway, I'm not suggesting people should be kind of sad like me. Just wondering if anyone is.

9 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I get what people are saying about getting in more reps, how their list isn't likely to be impacted, etc. But...we don't really know. We don't know if Boba and proton torps are gunna be gutted. We don't know if First Order and Resistance is going to go untouched. I feel, when facing stuff assumed to be impacted, while playing my own stuff assumed to not be impacted, my choices are informed a lot by that disparity. Then I wonder if that game really taught me anything.

Anyway, I'm not suggesting people should be kind of sad like me. Just wondering if anyone is.

I mean, it's still a game which I play for fun. It's not like you've gone pro, right? If you have fun playing, there's a point to it. If you're playing entirely to ready yourself for the next big event, well... yeah. Not much value there.

1 hour ago, Ablazoned said:

Okay @RStan...I played Optics A-wings last night. In 4 games, my three Blue Squadron Recruits took exactly 46 shots at range 2 or 3. I "used" Advanced Optics exactly thrice (roller bb twice and bh once). By contrast, I rolled fb twelve times.

In addition, they took 12 range 1 shots, and I used optics once there (rolled hhb).

Tl;Dr humans may be bad at statistics, but muh dice are, too!

I'd definitely stick with adv optics on any RZ2 you play that is lower than i5 and especially either generic. You have to be careful about results based thinking. With just a focus on a two dice attack, you have a 56% chance to get 2 hits. If you included Adv Optics it goes up to 81%. Don't be like sports fans that ridicule coaches or players because a certain play didn't work even though statistically it had a high percentage chance of working in the first place. If you haven't checked this Designer Journal out before, I highly recommend doing so. Great read https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/9/28/i-play-to-win-is-a-lie/

3 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

I mean, it's still a game which I play for fun. It's not like you've gone pro, right? If you have fun playing, there's a point to it. If you're playing entirely to ready yourself for the next big event, well... yeah. Not much value there.

Yeah, part of it is readying for new big event. I'm always playing a list which I want to see if it's "good". We've built up a competitive community locally, and that's what we do.

21 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I feel, when facing stuff assumed to be impacted, while playing my own stuff assumed to not be impacted, my choices are informed a lot by that disparity. Then I wonder if that game really taught me anything.

Hm, I don't understand. Or rather, isn't it similar to playing a hyperspace list against extended? Because that's something I've done a lot, too. And it always has this slight air of unfairness to it, and winning such a game has this bit of pride. But there, like playing to soon-to-be-changed parts, it still has a lot of value.

Often you need to get a feeling for a new list. That is to a large degree independent of the actual powerlevel of your opponent's squad

5 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Hm, I don't understand. Or rather, isn't it similar to playing a hyperspace list against extended? Because that's something I've done a lot, too. And it always has this slight air of unfairness to it, and winning such a game has this bit of pride. But there, like playing to soon-to-be-changed parts, it still has a lot of value.

Often you need to get a feeling for a new list. That is to a large degree independent of the actual powerlevel of your opponent's squad

Like I said, I'm not looking to convince anyone of anything, nor am I going to be convinced of anything. I was just curious if anyone else felt the same way. Feels like a mini "play 1.0 with 2.0 days away" kind of vibe to me. That might be an over exaggeration, but feels like that.

18 minutes ago, RStan said:

I'd definitely stick with adv optics on any RZ2 you play that is lower than i5 and especially either generic.

IMO the important thing isn't initiative but how many other targets you are bringing with you. My go-to list currently is talli/lulo/Poe. Those a-wings get one token and one token only. If I can spend the focus on defense, I'm saving it. If I get hit eye and know I'm defending later, I'm saving it.

If you have 5 ships, by contrast, you can be confident that you'll often have the luxury of an offensive focus. Even then I might decline to spend a defensive focus of I know I'll live.

10 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Like I said, I'm not looking to convince anyone of anything, nor am I going to be convinced of anything. I was just curious if anyone else felt the same way. Feels like a mini "play 1.0 with 2.0 days away" kind of vibe to me. That might be an over exaggeration, but feels like that.

No worries. I just tried to link it to a maybe similar feeling.

1 hour ago, Ablazoned said:

I bought one wave 2 dropped conversion kit and traded for 2 other copies of optics, and i only own 4 a-wings. My math told me that optics is most effective in swarms because if you're outnumbered you're going to be spending focus on defense. So I rolled with 3A2X and o my gee was it fun. Two games were over in 4 rounds each in my favor. Swarms melt non-reinforce low agi ships!

Same math, same conclusion, I just went a step further.

By the way, I see many XAAA lists around, very often without optics. Is that really worth it?

4 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

By the way, I see many XAAA lists around, very often without optics. Is that really worth it?

Yes. Poe and three crack homing greens. Poe with lulo, tallie and a blue (homing on the last two). If you're running xaaa then Poe=x, right? Even the most expensive As don't add up with Nien. And at that point you might as well go with 4 I5s.