12 minutes ago, ThinkingB said:

If you think of swapping the third ship for a Y-Wing or a U-Wing, you are falling in a trap.

Oh yes, a trap so dreadful that Daniel Fiorentini walked right into it and made both his Luke supports a Y-wing and a U-wing! IDK, coordinate on some beef as well as a passive positional-dependent reinforce reward a lot of good play!

Edit: Just in case this is misunderstood: /s

I really like Daniel's list. Looks fun.

3 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

I should have clarified, wasn't really posting a list here.

Just thinking of Luke on his own or Wedge individually.

Given the choice do you prioritize Proton Torps or Mobility? Sounds like most people default to Torps?

If Torps & Supernatural were correctly costed AND Luke had to decide between Regen/Burners and Proton Torps is there a clear favorite?

Old less interesting question...is it not possible to run Wedge with Afterburners and Lone Wolf as an actual Ace who does something other than just joust? The answer is still definitely no right.

Lone Wolf/ burners was the first build I thought of for wedge at the very beginning, but then points came out. He's not an ace with that build, but he seems like a real flanking hammer that makes a few things sweat.

On 1/20/2019 at 10:36 PM, Boom Owl said:

Two Random Comments:

1. The Patriots are Undercosted

2. X-Wing 2020

I'm really excited fornthe t85 but i have no idea whay theyll do with it from a gameplay perspective to differentiate it from a t70, moar stats but no repositioning maybe?

4 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

I'm really excited fornthe t85 but i have no idea whay theyll do with it from a gameplay perspective to differentiate it from a t70, moar stats but no repositioning maybe?

Maybe faster (5 forward?) and more shield or hull but no barrel roll? Heck, maybe a stop? Idk. Police sirens?

8 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

I'm really excited fornthe t85 but i have no idea whay theyll do with it from a gameplay perspective to differentiate it from a t70

give it aileron s-foils that let you barrel roll or boost in the system phase depending on the side they're on, but not count as a barrel roll action or a boost action. Seems like the way 2.0 is going. Everybody decloaks!

On 7/25/2017 at 9:28 PM, SaltMaster 5000 said:

Plus, someone told a funny story about being at a friend's house in the dark and not being able to find the toilet, so he just peed in a circle. You do maximize your chances of hitting the toilet that way. I had a good laugh.

This should be the blurb for the Krayt cast!

A fatter bullseye? Out to the width of the ship.

35 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

I really like Daniel's list. Looks fun.

I'm definitely going to bring it to my next casual night.

25 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

I'm really excited fornthe t85 but i have no idea whay theyll do with it from a gameplay perspective to differentiate it from a t70, moar stats but no repositioning maybe?

Built-in advanced sensors, and a starting cost comparable to defenders?

4 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

Built-in advanced sensors, and a starting cost comparable to defenders?

White 4K + Free evades too? And can link actions with built in Adv Sensors? And start at i7?

5 minutes ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

White 4K + Free evades too? And can link actions with built in Adv Sensors? And start at i7?

74 points. Because Da Mouse says so.

43 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

I'm really excited fornthe t85 but i have no idea whay theyll do with it from a gameplay perspective to differentiate it from a t70, moar stats but no repositioning maybe?

no way FFG gives a starfighter no repositioning and trusts the players to win with based on picking dials gud. We're all in on repositioning crutches

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

I really like Daniel's list. Looks fun.

Everytime I think I'll mimic a list of his, I'll get thrashed hard. You need them positional skillz!

1 hour ago, catachanninja said:

I'm really excited fornthe t85 but i have no idea whay theyll do with it from a gameplay perspective to differentiate it from a t70, moar stats but no repositioning maybe?

Or maybe go the TIE-Defender route and make it crazy good but very expensive (an in, no more than 2 per squad).

25 minutes ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

White 4K + Free evades too? And can link actions with built in Adv Sensors? And start at i7?

What if I told you that it got all of the above but topped out at I4? 👹

4 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

What if I told you that it got all of the above but topped out at I4? 👹

I'm in. Juke T85s at i4? What could go wrong.

1 hour ago, skotothalamos said:

give it aileron s-foils that let you barrel roll or boost in the system phase depending on the side they're on, but not count as a barrel roll action or a boost action. Seems like the way 2.0 is going. Everybody decloaks!

Let you? I'm not into it.

Force you? I could be down with that. Strikers and Reapers are kind of fun, and the T-85 could kind of be a heavy-Striker.

Timing window for the move would be either the System phase (more like decloaking) or before you activate (like a Striker). Depending on the side of the S-Foils, you must Boost or Barrel Roll, however it gets worded, and you can do it onto rocks and such--no failures. This effect is contingent on not being stressed, like Adaptive Ailerons. The opportunity to flip the configuration would be end-of-activation, so your opponent knows what kind of move you'll be forced to do next turn. Actions on the ship would be Focus, Lock, maybe Evade (red Evade? for easier shut-off of Aileron S-Foils?). Actions on the Configuration would be boost (on the must-'barrel-roll' side) and barrel roll (on the must-'boost' side), no linked actions. Statline 3/2/3/4 or 3/3/3/4, depending on desired price point for the ship. Weapons Hardpoint like a T-70, Droid and Tech slots. Perhaps no Modification slot.

4 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Let you? I'm not into it.

Force you? I could be down with that. Strikers and Reapers are kind of fun, and the T-85 could kind of be a heavy-Striker.

Unironically, I’m in. I’m not sure it’s thematic, but it sounds fun!

For the t-85...and extra shield or two and a sensor slot seem obvious. Also, it's billed as faster than the t-70, so how about it picks up a 5-straight and blues on 3-banks and 4-straight. Maybe lose the 1-straight or make it white. Also no natural boost or br but foils grant evade linked to white br and evade linked to red boost.

Also...don't put Poe in it. Give it 1 I5 with a negligible ability if you want.

23 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

Unironically, I’m in. I’m not sure it’s thematic, but it sounds fun!

Personally, I think the most important thing about a T-85 X-Wing for Resistance is that it "feels different" from the T-70. If it was somewhat more like a Striker or a Phantom in how it flies, that would accomplish the goal.

Relatedly, that's why whenever I've discussed the First Order Interceptor, I've had three key thoughts.

• Blues on a speed other than the 2. So 1-speed Blues like a TAP v1 or 3 speed blues like a Lancer, which has never really been seen on a TIE, but Defenders use a lot of 3-speeds.
• Boost > Focus and Barrel Roll > Focus, rather than Autothrusters, like a Fang instead of a TIE Interceptor. That'll make the on-able feel be a bit different.
• Something funky with the primary weapon (whether that's a 2 dice front cone, plus a 4 dice bullseye, or something with cannons, or whatever).

That'd certainly create a ship which doesn't just play like a Silencer.

Are people actually excited about another x-wing in the same faction?

4 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

e: Thanks! Would it make sense to replace something else? I'm not yet convinced by all the Poe + 3A lists.

Lulo gains, strictly speaking, more from Optics than generics. He goes from 2.285 to 2.571 (+0.286), generics go from 1.594 to 1.863 (+0.269). Granted that includes Heroic, but that's anyway the realistic case.

I was having this discussion with SOTL in my 5 awings thread (if you want to take a look @Scott Pilgrim2)

That being said, we agreed that generics are better with optics and profit more.

Part of the reasoning is that low Initiative is a feature when using Optics.

I don't think I accept those differences - the difference for lulo is ~11%, while the difference for the generic is ~15%. Also, that's ignoring agility, which isn't really a fair comparison - going from one hit to two is much more valuable than going from two to three, in my opinion.

2 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

I should have clarified, wasn't really posting a list here.

Just thinking of Luke on his own or Wedge individually. Biggs is as valuable if not more valuable than Wedge I totally get that.

Given the choice though do you prioritize Proton Torps or Mobility? Sounds like most people default to Torps?

If Torps & Supernatural were correctly costed AND Luke had to decide between Regen/Burners or Proton Torps is there a clear favorite?

Old less interesting question...is it not possible to run Wedge with Afterburners and Lone Wolf as an actual Ace who does something other than just honor joust sacrifice? The answer is still definitely no right.

Probably, especially in Hyperspace. I suspect a lot of these unused i5 pilots are pretty good with afterburners.

18 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

Are people actually excited about another x-wing in the same faction?

If it's fun to play, sure.

19 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Probably, especially in Hyperspace. I suspect a lot of these unused i5 pilots are pretty good with afterburners.

Where is the price point where Afterburners go from OP (Over Priced) to OP (Over Powered)?

Or maybe if torps go way up we'll figure out that answer on our own?