1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

No tractors, no bionicals, no baffles, no gambit card tricks.

Weird. YASB lied to me

On 12/6/2018 at 9:13 AM, Brunas said:

@Musical Xeno will you kill me if I do this for krayt cup?

oh God.... no i wont kill you, but I need copies to give away lol

2 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

No tractors, no bionicals, no baffles, no gambit card tricks.

No bioncles?!

What kind of heretical format is this?

3 hours ago, Musical Xeno said:

oh God.... no i wont kill you, but I need copies to give away lol

I'll have Dion Moralos up within 24 hours, and i'll mail you some. How many copies? Is there any photo of you that you would prefer to be used?

10 hours ago, Kieransi said:

These guys are right though, barrel rolling or otherwise moving in front of a rock with the rear arc on the A-Wings is going to be fun.

Fun - maybe, but kinda suboptimal. A-Wings doesn't have linked focus with barell roll, so shot from behind the rock after barrel roll would be unmodded.

It terms of attack:

2 dice + focus = 3 dice without

3 dice + focus (L'ulo) > 4 dice without.

In terms of defense:

3 green dice + focus > 4 green dice

2 green dice + focus (L'ulo) > 3 green dice

Trick shot is ok, if you don't waste your mods to proc it.

16 hours ago, william1134 said:

I just tried to listen to these guys and the latest seems to be recorded in the Car. I can't say I listened for more than a few minutes.

If you fall asleep until an older episode starts playing, it gets better. Or way worse, depending on what you still have on your phone.

2 hours ago, skotothalamos said:

If you fall asleep until an older episode starts playing, it gets better. Or way worse, depending on what you still have on your phone.

Or way way worse, if you're listening in the car.

1 hour ago, Cuz05 said:

Or way way worse, if you're listening in the car.

It's more exciting though for your passengers.

Just put Ventress down for the first time with nothing more than Triple-0 for upgrades. That was kinda mean, and fun.

"Hey, want this stress token, or should I have a calculate? Stress? Sweet! Here, have another."

After getting into a chase position I was getting that to prox a lot!

@Oldpara not being able to link into barrel rolls is another big reason I don't have as much interest in Trickshot. I feel that's a big tool to proc trick shot and have mods enough times to make it a worthwhile investment which doesn't exist on the A-Wings. Heroic is always on no matter what you do. I'm just looking at making the RZ2s as consistent of offense as possible. If I want spike damage, I'll look at the T70s and Proton Torps.

18 minutes ago, RStan said:

@Oldpara not being able to link into barrel rolls is another big reason I don't have as much interest in Trickshot. I feel that's a big tool to proc trick shot and have mods enough times to make it a worthwhile investment which doesn't exist on the A-Wings. Heroic is always on no matter what you do. I'm just looking at making the RZ2s as consistent of offense as possible. If I want spike damage, I'll look at the T70s and Proton Torps.

One other interesting thing about heroic is that it's Wedge insurance. You now are rolling 2 dice and have a better chance of it triggering if Wedge is attacking you range 1/2 (or three with a torp).

I think Heroic, like Trickshot, benefits the most from being cheap.

When people say Heroic Poe is awesome, it's less that the Heroic makes a massive difference for his rolls, it's more that he already has VI and PTL baked in so there's not really another talent that he desperately needs and thus he's best kept cheap and efficient.

My gut tells me that Predator on Poe would be good, since he's got i6 double reposition and might be chasing that bullseye anyway to keep the s-foils closed.

As much as I love BB-8, I'm warming up to the idea of Predator/R4 and nothing else on Poe. 18 points more than Soontir Fel, loses an agility, but has more than twice the hitpoints.

45 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

I think Heroic, like Trickshot, benefits the most from being cheap.

When people say Heroic Poe is awesome, it's less that the Heroic makes a massive difference for his rolls, it's more that he already has VI and PTL baked in so there's not really another talent that he desperately needs and thus he's best kept cheap and efficient.

My gut tells me that Predator on Poe would be good, since he's got i6 double reposition and might be chasing that bullseye anyway to keep the s-foils closed.

As much as I love BB-8, I'm warming up to the idea of Predator/R4 and nothing else on Poe. 18 points more than Soontir Fel, loses an agility, but has more than twice the hitpoints.

I'd been looking at Predator a lot, too. Most builds I've seen he has torps, most I build he has HLC.

The interesting thing to me about heroic/Optics on A-wings is the high probability of double hits.

Focus + Blank is a ~6% chance.

Blank + Blank is a ~6% chance.

Blank + Blank rerolled has ~12% chance of turning up another Focus+Blank or Blank + Blank. So altogether there's about a 7% chance of one hit, and an 93% chance of 2 hits, if my rough math is accurate.

2 hits does a lot of work these days.

14 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I'd been looking at Predator a lot, too. Most builds I've seen he has torps, most I build he has HLC.

HLC is a weird card, I don't think it's made a cut in any list so far, and I just haven't really seen it played much. I think HLC is interesting on Poe though, for sure, since he can line up bullseye easier. The problem for me is that a fourth die is only very slightly better than a reroll when you're using actions to arcdodge, Predator works at range 1, and HLC costs more.

2 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

HLC is a weird card, I don't think it's made a cut in any list so far, and I just haven't really seen it played much. I think HLC is interesting on Poe though, for sure, since he can line up bullseye easier. The problem for me is that a fourth die is only very slightly better than a reroll when you're using actions to arcdodge, Predator works at range 1, and HLC costs more.

I think with Poe's action pair, the chance to TL/Focus on the HLC does increase its utility. Predator is cheaper and leaves the second action open, however.

3 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

I think with Poe's action pair, the chance to TL/Focus on the HLC does increase its utility. Predator is cheaper and leaves the second action open, however.

Yeah I guess I just feel like points are going to be tight with Poe a lot for me, since I really don't want to fly a 2-ship list if I can help it.

32 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

The interesting thing to me about heroic/Optics on A-wings is the high probability of double hits.

Focus + Blank is a ~6% chance.

Blank + Blank is a ~6% chance.

Blank + Blank rerolled has ~12% chance of turning up another Focus+Blank or Blank + Blank. So altogether there's about a 7% chance of one hit, and an 93% chance of 2 hits, if my rough math is accurate.

2 hits does a lot of work these days.

It’s actually 86% for two hits on optics/heroic because you also have to consider blank+ focus along with focus+blank.

28 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

HLC is a weird card, I don't think it's made a cut in any list so far, and I just haven't really seen it played much.

three cut equivalent (got the requisite number of wins, but not the MOV), played 19 times overall.

24 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

HLC is a weird card, I don't think it's made a cut in any list so far, and I just haven't really seen it played much. I think HLC is interesting on Poe though, for sure, since he can line up bullseye easier. The problem for me is that a fourth die is only very slightly better than a reroll when you're using actions to arcdodge, Predator works at range 1, and HLC costs more.

I'm not suggesting one or the other, I'm suggesting both. I don't know if it'll be good, I'm just looking at as a training tool to consider approach vectors better. The next big event I have is Adepticon, plenty of time to figure things out. I don't want to dismiss anything until I've tried it myself.

19 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Yeah I guess I just feel like points are going to be tight with Poe a lot for me, since I really don't want to fly a 2-ship list if I can help it.

You can fit a very good Poe with multiple wingmates, no problem.

2 minutes ago, jagsba said:

three cut equivalent (got the requisite number of wins, but not the MOV), played 19 times overall.

The only viable carrier we've had thus far is the defender, right? And they don't have double reposition.

My thought on HLC is rooted squarely on seeing good Soontir play to line up the bullseye. I think trading the 1-hards for 1-forward and 1-banks puts Poe in a good position to be able to line those up because you have more granularity in the degrees of your movements.

Or I'm way wrong and it's dumb and I just end up taking torps (or nothing). The T-70 feels like it's paying for that hardpoint, so I want to make use of it as efficiently as possible.

4 minutes ago, gennataos said:

The only viable carrier we've had thus far is the defender, right? And they don't have double reposition.

the three CE carriers were Ten Numb, Rexler, and a pair of scyks. The rest are mostly rexler, couple more Numbs and scyks, and a koshka

8 minutes ago, gennataos said:

My thought on HLC is rooted squarely on seeing good Soontir play to line up the bullseye. I think trading the 1-hards for 1-forward and 1-banks puts Poe in a good position to be able to line those up because you have more granularity in the degrees of your movements.

Definitely agree there. So many times I wish I had a one bank on an interceptor to pull off crackshot. That angle just seems more forgiving than hard turns.

25 minutes ago, abell19 said:

It’s actually 86% for two hits on optics/heroic because you also have to consider blank+ focus along with focus+blank.

Thanks. I thought that number seemed too good.

12 minutes ago, gennataos said:

The T-70 feels like it's paying for that hardpoint, so I want to make use of it as efficiently as possible.

At least with the base generic, the T65 (currently) is at 41 at i2. T70 is at 46 at i1. Put a shield upgrade on T65 and it's at 47 which doesn't include the weapon hardpoint or the blue 3 straight added to the T70. Just with those factors alone, I don't really think we're paying for the hardpoint that much.

1 minute ago, Biophysical said:

Thanks. I thought that number seemed too good.

Yeah, 86% is still really good. Slightly better than a howl swarm, but worse than the 94% a Tie/fo gets with fanatical and optics