1 hour ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

I have a dumb rules question. When near an obstacle, does Poe with Debris gambit able to take a white evade as a second action? It's treated as a white action which allows Poe to PTL to treat it as a red action which is then treated as a white action because you are near an obstacle.

When two effects both alter difficulty, the one that increases the difficulty wins. So no stress-free token stacking for Poe (except for twice a game with BB-8 > Debris Gambit > Blue Maneuver > Focus)

6 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

So the consensus is that putting hull/shield upgrades on an Interceptor is a giant waste of points, correct?

The Silencer kinda is an Interceptor with those same bad upgrades autoincluded.

Saber with an extra mod slot(2 shield+hull)=63

FO Test Pilot=62

Same thing for a 3 mod alpha at a theoretical 57, vs a 56 Engineer.

Kylo is a whole different ballgame entirely here. (Rather, Supernatural is...) Why is Kylo more expensive than Rey and Boba? Why does the Silencer pay so god **** much for its statline?

1.) I'm not convinced hull/shield is bad on Interceptors. I think it can be a solid way to fill out points, as 4 hull is a lot harder to one-shot than 3. It's niche, though.

2.) With hit points, quantity has a quality all it's own. Just being able to hang out there and suck up a big hit is a useful thing, and not something you can do even with 5 HP Interceptors.

3.) Optics and Fanatical (6 more points) and the Lock action (free) are all ways that make the Silencers hit harder over the course of the game than just an Interceptor with more HP.

11 hours ago, Biophysical said:

1.) I'm not convinced hull/shield is bad on Interceptors. I think it can be a solid way to fill out points, as 4 hull is a lot harder to one-shot than 3. It's niche, though.

2.) With hit points, quantity has a quality all it's own. Just being able to hang out there and suck up a big hit is a useful thing, and not something you can do even with 5 HP Interceptors.

3.) Optics and Fanatical (6 more points) and the Lock action (free) are all ways that make the Silencers hit harder over the course of the game than just an Interceptor with more HP.

That puts the Silencer at 68 for an i4.

That's Diet Choke Whisper territory.

I really like Fanatical+Optics though. I'll try it, but I think the chassis is overcosted.

I got some proxy wave 2 games in today, in between watching PAX. The silencer pulls its weight defensively, but you gotta work to make it worth its point on offense. It’ll last, but it isn’t super likely to take too much down with it.

Still not an efficiency ship, it probably does best as an end game ship when you want it thicc anyway. It did well against trip t-70s because it cost more than any of them individually, and poorly against a Poe that out-pointed it. I had flashbacks to Mr. Heaver Sir’s Poe that just outpointed Soontir.

I really love dion's stream, few people has done as much as him for the xwing community, but nowadays he's running a giveaway stream with some xwing games during breaks goddammit

2 hours ago, Sunitsa said:

I really love dion's stream, few people has done as much as him for the xwing community, but nowadays he's running a giveaway stream with some xwing games during breaks goddammit

I agree with your sentiment, but I also know that Dion is trying to figure out how to make X-Wing a full-time job that pays the bills and I have to respect the hustle.

How dare he give stuff away that he paid to have made and pays to ship when he could just turn everything off and take a break for half an hour.

From some theorycrafting, is Null with Squad Leader and Biohexacrypt Codes approaching 1.0 Fenn Rau levels of cheese? Just as well there are no large base boosting ships in First Order...

5 minutes ago, MrHedgehogMan said:

From some theorycrafting, is Null with Squad Leader and Biohexacrypt Codes approaching 1.0 Fenn Rau levels of cheese? Just as well there are no large base boosting ships in First Order...

gotta re-read Squad Leader...

2 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:

gotta re-read Squad Leader...

Derp.

At least I can still give Kylo range infinite barrel rolls at initiative 7...

30 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:

gotta re-read Squad Leader...

You can still BR and then Boost with Autothrusters.

That moment when you want to catch up on 5 Krayt episodes and think: really, why?

edit: and that moment when you realize you will anyway

8 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

That moment when you want to catch up on 5 Krayt episodes and think: really, why?

edit: and that moment when you realize you will anyway

Good way to knock out some solid treadmill time.

6 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

Good way to knock out some solid treadmill time.

Can’t run from the pain.

54 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

Can’t run from the pain.

No point in running from me, you'll only die tired.

8 minutes ago, JasonCole said:

No point in running from me, you'll only die tired.

That’s my secret. I’m always tired.

52 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

That’s my secret. I’m always tired.

Why run when you can nap? That's what I always say.

1 hour ago, JasonCole said:

Why run when you can nap? That's what I always say.

Is your secret identity Naptain America?

5 minutes ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Is your secret identity Naptain America?

Not anymore, *******. Thanks for outing me!

On 12/2/2018 at 12:13 AM, AEIllingworth said:

I got some proxy wave 2 games in today, in between watching PAX. The silencer pulls its weight defensively, but you gotta work to make it worth its point on offense. It’ll last, but it isn’t super likely to take too much down with it.

Still not an efficiency ship, it probably does best as an end game ship when you want it thicc anyway. It did well against trip t-70s because it cost more than any of them individually, and poorly against a Poe that out-pointed it. I had flashbacks to Mr. Heaver Sir’s Poe that just outpointed Soontir.

I've got some proxy games with the Silencer as well, but have not come up against a fat Poe yet. Can Poe even reach the 102 pt of a Primed Thrusters Kylo viably? That terrifies me, as my Poe games ended with him unable to catch me, but only a roll or 2 from half-pointing Kylo.

I mostly ran a 93 Poe, but that was bb-8, Proton torpedo, Targeting synch and no mod.

Kylo should probably out point him, so it’ll depend maybe on half points v bid.

20 minutes ago, player3010587 said:

I've got some proxy games with the Silencer as well, but have not come up against a fat Poe yet. Can Poe even reach the 102 pt of a Primed Thrusters Kylo viably? That terrifies me, as my Poe games ended with him unable to catch me, but only a roll or 2 from half-pointing Kylo.

Poe with Title/LW/Torps/BB8/Shield Upgrade/Primed Thrusters hits 105. But just a Poe with Torps should scare Kylo.

1 minute ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Poe with Title/LW/Torps/BB8/Shield Upgrade/Primed Thrusters hits 105. But just a Poe with Torps should scare Kylo.

Anything with a gun genuinely scares me, especially with no 1.0 Autothrusters. Especially since Snoke will not be of use as you will know what Poe has dialed, but so long as that Black One charge is active and BB's charges likewise, he can still pin your movements that bear a semblance of aggression. I think a lot of my games against Poe will be lost on hiding and thus having a gun out of the fight when it turned out that Poe wasn't even after Kylo in the first place. It's a fascinating interaction, for typically speaking (and with drastic generalizations, as one can engage and run from Poe from the same time or chase Kylo and not shoot at Kylo at the same time in certain niche situations):

If Kylo: A: Engages or B:Runs from Poe

But if Poe: C:Engages not Kylo or D:Chases Kylo

Result AC and BD: FO has upper hand

Result AD and BC: Resistance has upper hand

I always think it's a trap (!!!) to look at individual ship matchups in a vacuum. The Resistance has large base falcons and bombers which, I think, are going to make Kylo dancing more of a challenge than people realize...particularly people who haven't been trying to make Vader pilot work. I really don't think the power of FO lies with Kylo, he's just the sexy thing people will want to work with first. Can't say I blame anyone for that.

24 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I always think it's a trap (!!!) to look at individual ship matchups in a vacuum. The Resistance has large base falcons and bombers which, I think, are going to make Kylo dancing more of a challenge than people realize...particularly people who haven't been trying to make Vader pilot work. I really don't think the power of FO lies with Kylo, he's just the sexy thing people will want to work with first. Can't say I blame anyone for that.

Amazing. Every word you said, was right. But in addition to that, you do have a sort of vacuum idea that will end up in "How do I achieve my dream endgame whilst preventing the opponent's?" And since most Resistance bombers I see are light (for instance, Bob is now expensive as **** even before tragedy sim) and their guns are only 2 to the side but far more temptingly 3 forward, they haven't bugged me much. And as one hoping to conjure a Poe + 2 bomber list with loads of area control for the big lol, I am disappointed to discover that at most you can fit an A-wing after a near naked bomber and decent Poe.

-Edit- Case in point about the exorbitant pricing of the Resistance bomber, its initiative 1 guy costs 5 mother****ing points less than Poe himself! whilst Bob (Now known as Finch) costs only 10 pt less than Rey!