I think there'll be a lot of qualifiers, plus I think we'll get a system open, so probably more than 20.

The question is, how many of those invited will want to, or be able to go to worlds?

There are other ways to attend, like press passes and stuff. ****, after hearing that one of this years judges let a player tractor beam his opponent off the table, it's probably pretty easy to get on the team lol

But then most of the people I want to meet probably wont be there anyway, so it's not worth the travel

11 hours ago, RynoZero said:

it does suck that Worlds will not be a open invite anymore

From a spectator's perspective, I don't think it sucks. I want to see the best players go at it. I don't want to see one (or more) of the best coast through on fortunate match-ups against lesser skilled opponents. I want to see every game be a real battle, pitting quality opponent against quality opponent.

1 minute ago, gennataos said:

From a spectator's perspective, I don't think it sucks. I want to see the best players go at it. I don't want to see one (or more) of the best coast through on fortunate match-ups against lesser skilled opponents. I want to see every game be a real battle, pitting quality opponent against quality opponent.

I'd still like it to be open to the public after invites, because I like the event to be large (FFGCon).

Considering it's an entire weekend this time, with Coruscant finals leading it, I think the more the merrier.

5 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

I'd still like it to be open to the public after invites, because I like the event to be large (FFGCon).

Considering it's an entire weekend this time, with Coruscant finals leading it, I think the more the merrier.

That's my hope right now. I'm happy with it being invite only and mostly fine with how it's structure to give us the best competition, but Worlds is so fun because of the amount of community that is there to interact and just have a good time with. Limiting the "more the merrier" part feels bad.

1 minute ago, Tlfj200 said:

I'd still like it to be open to the public after invites, because I like the event to be large (FFGCon).

Considering it's an entire weekend this time, with Coruscant finals leading it, I think the more the merrier.

I can see that from a participant perspective. As a spectator, I'd still like to see the best against the best, preferably playing their best every game.

5 minutes ago, gennataos said:

From a spectator's perspective, I don't think it sucks. I want to see the best players go at it. I don't want to see one (or more) of the best coast through on fortunate match-ups against lesser skilled opponents. I want to see every game be a real battle, pitting quality opponent against quality opponent.

3 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

I'd still like it to be open to the public after invites, because I like the event to be large (FFGCon).

Considering it's an entire weekend this time, with Coruscant finals leading it, I think the more the merrier.

What if there was Worlds and FFGcon at the same time?

You could get tickets to FFGcon, but couldn't necessarily get into the World Championships unless you had fulfilled the criteria. There would be other non-championship stuff to do, including maybe an 11th hour hyperspace qualifier the first day or two of FFGcon for the optimistic.

Space is probably an issue for this plan, though.

Just now, Biophysical said:

What if there was Worlds and FFGcon at the same time?

You could get tickets to FFGcon, but couldn't necessarily get into the World Championships unless you had fulfilled the criteria. There would be other non-championship stuff to do, including maybe an 11th hour hyperspace qualifier the first day or two of FFGcon for the optimistic.

Space is probably an issue for this plan, though.

Honestly, that works for me too, as long as the attendees have side-stuff to do as well. But yeah, I want FFGCon.

8 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

What if there was Worlds and FFGcon at the same time?

You could get tickets to FFGcon, but couldn't necessarily get into the World Championships unless you had fulfilled the criteria. There would be other non-championship stuff to do, including maybe an 11th hour hyperspace qualifier the first day or two of FFGcon for the optimistic.

Space is probably an issue for this plan, though.

Its a little strange that both coruscant & worlds are invite only.

I thought coruscant was gonna become the "prestigious" highlander tournament and then worlds would just be turned into X-Wing celebration day.

Still probably a good chance that they are just giving more ways to get invites to Worlds and it will still be open to anyone to attempt to click off or lottery their way in. While Coruscant wont be open to all.

So curious...

If Duncan and Jeremy run around winning all the invites, it eliminates the potential competitors at worlds. So does it become a valid strategy to win as many invites as possible during the 'season?'

32 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I can see that from a participant perspective. As a spectator, I'd still like to see the best against the best, preferably playing their best every game.

Our last World Champion, Simeon, wouldn’t even qualify to go.

Justin Phua will now have a hard time going since his country doesn’t have OP support.

Sometimes the best players don’t always have the time, money, or fall just short at other major events. Plus Worlds is something everyone should experience once and I’m sad that not everyone will get this opportunity.

7 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

Our last World Champion, Simeon, wouldn’t even qualify to go.

Justin Phua will now have a hard time going since his country doesn’t have OP support.

Sometimes the best players don’t always have the time, money, or fall just short at other major events. Plus Worlds is something everyone should experience once and I’m sad that not everyone will get this opportunity.

Okay?

9 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

Plus Worlds is something everyone should experience once and I’m sad that not everyone will get this opportunity

We don't know for sure that there wont be an open lottery or click off to supplement the invited player group at worlds.

I might have missed something in the article that said its "invite only" though.

4 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

We don't know for sure that there wont be an open lottery or click off to supplement the invited player group at worlds.

I might have missed something in the article that said its "invite only" though.

First sentence in the article

”Starting in 2019, the X-Wing World Championships will be invite-only.”

3 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

First sentence in the article

”Starting in 2019, the X-Wing World Championships will be invite-only.”

REKT

1 hour ago, RStan said:

That's my hope right now. I'm happy with it being invite only and mostly fine with how it's structure to give us the best competition, but Worlds is so fun because of the amount of community that is there to interact and just have a good time with. Limiting the "more the merrier" part feels bad.

What if we took the coolest part of x wing, meeting people from all over with all different views in the game, and got rid of it?

32 minutes ago, Tbetts94 said:

Our last World Champion, Simeon, wouldn’t even qualify to go.

Justin Phua will now have a hard time going since his country doesn’t have OP support.

Sometimes the best players don’t always have the time, money, or fall just short at other major events. Plus Worlds is something everyone should experience once and I’m sad that not everyone will get this opportunity.

Paul Heaver also would have never qualified under that system, I thiiiiink Doug Kinney would have?

Just now, catachanninja said:

Paul Heaver also would have never qualified under that system, I thiiiiink Doug Kinney would have?

To be fair, they'r trying to expand the opportunities to qualify as well, but yeah, many of the top players would not have qualified under this system.

(Paul would have as soon as system opens were created)

39 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

To be fair, they'r trying to expand the opportunities to qualify as well, but yeah, many of the top players would not have qualified under this system.

(Paul would have as soon as system opens were created)

Incidentally Paul hasn't won world's since they invented system opens

1 hour ago, Tbetts94 said:

Our last World Champion, Simeon, wouldn’t even qualify to go.

Justin Phua will now have a hard time going since his country doesn’t have OP support.

Sometimes the best players don’t always have the time, money, or fall just short at other major events. Plus Worlds is something everyone should experience once and I’m sad that not everyone will get this opportunity.

How do we know past worlds winners were the best players anyway? Simeon wouldn't have made the first cut at a System Open with his Worlds record. This game isn't tennis, where advancement requires you to repeatedly beat your opponent. Luck in matchup, dice, and dial selection happens.

These are one-off games with a high degree of variability in the game. You have to be very good to win a major tournament, certainly, but with the current game and tournament structure its hardly definitive. Winning doesn't mean you're better than, say, the other top 8, it just means you won.

We should look at the World Championships like the PGA Championships or the Masters. They're just another tournament, albeit a selective one. True player quality is demonstrated by repeated success in major tournaments, and adding selectivity to Worlds is just away of making sure people with demonstrated successes don't get hosed by randos that get lucky, although they might get hosed by good players that get lucky.

Seems its a difference between people who want a social event and people who want to spectate a competitive event with the best of the best. To me, Coruscant was going to become the latter while Worlds would remain the former. Now its like they're getting rid of the former and rolling both of these into one competitive event.

2 hours ago, LagJanson said:

So curious...

If Duncan and Jeremy run around winning all the invites, it eliminates the potential competitors at worlds. So does it become a valid strategy to win as many invites as possible during the 'season?'

It obviously is if you can manage to beat out your bigger "local" threats to prevent them from going. It's unlikely that you can lock out everyone from everywhere though.

I mean, I'm considering playing in some locally just for the fun of locking people out of World. Being ***** about someone not wanting to make the switch to competitive 2.0 was not the best example of our local community, and it was all the "almost top" people being dicks, so the funny would be delivered in spade (it'd be extra funny if my son managed to lock some out too).

33 minutes ago, defkhan1 said:

Seems its a difference between people who want a social event and people who want to spectate a competitive event with the best of the best. To me, Coruscant was going to become the latter while Worlds would remain the former. Now its like they're getting rid of the former and rolling both of these into one competitive event.

It is pretty weird if they end up having two invitationals right beside each other. That seems unnecessary.

1 minute ago, Biophysical said:

It is pretty weird if they end up having two invitationals right beside each other. That seems unnecessary.

Yeah, I'd rather they'd staggered them.

Looking at the actual rules for Coruscant (ie. play Imps since they got the good card voted in) I feel like it has come down a notch in terms of pure competition. The player quality is there but the format is skewing pretty heavily towards the just for fun side of things. Whereas with Worlds being invite only and standard format it may have overtaken Coruscant in terms of competitive premier events.

We europeans have a website. Tournaments that are advertised on this website will assign points based on tournament results (ranking but eg the number of participants and time since the event are also taken into account).

Every user has an account, receives points and is ranked accordingly. The key is: only the best 5 placements are used for ranking!

If I go to a ton of tournaments? Doesn‘t matter, only 5 count.

If I go to the largest ones and win? Great, huge boost.

If I won a prestigious, large event a year ago but haven‘t competed since? Points are by now reduced, but clearly the potential is there.

This creates a ladder that is really accurate. (edit: at least for us, nationally. Here's combined Europe and e.g. Poland and UK are missing, which skews things of course. But you might recognize Timo R. who is no1. If you take a look at his profile you see an example. Being 21st at the System Open gives more points than winning Belgian Nationals due to the number of participants and because the Nationals dropped to 75% due to time.)

2. edit: the implicit point is of course that FFG could setup a website where official tournaments are registered and the results recorded. The app allows even a collection of lists... even without that feature, FFG could assign points to players and then invite based on these points. Whether store champs are also to be included or not has to be decided. But in Hannover I had to register with my username, and the results are on T3 now. So evidently FFG did already upload results to a website that tracks point!

Even more of a meme format? The voted upgrades cost 0 for the tournament. Did empire still get the best deal? It should be easy to get a free talent slot, but open crew might not be too bad.