@Wiredin Well for a tournament this weekend I am going for max cancer so that I can say I flew a BSF17. I shameless stole this from a top 8 at World's.

For the M3A, you can do the mindlinked Inaldra list: Inaldra + Fenn linked up with Asajj.

Kimo you can do PS10 Alpha with Nym and the PS8 M3A. (Two birds with one stone).

You can always do Ketsu-Bossk with the YV.

7 minutes ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

For the M3A, you can do the mindlinked Inaldra list: Inaldra + Fenn linked up with Asajj.

Kimo you can do PS10 Alpha with Nym and the PS8 M3A. (Two birds with one stone).

I don't own either of those , and now I updated my list stating that.

but I like that BSF list, why not right?!

this is probably wrong....

"Echo" (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Director Krennic (5)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Major Vermeil (26)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Agent Kallus (2)
ISB Slicer (2)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Advanced Ailerons (0)

Nu Squadron Pilot (18)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)
Os-1 Arsenal Loadout (2)

Total: 100

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2.0 Scurrg moves to the medium base, along with the Punisher which makes the dynamics with Trajectory Simulator different. Punisher can now stop and throw bombs, but Scurrg is going to need to Barrel Roll out of the blast radius most of the time. Switching to Medium base conveniently removes access to boost (Afterburners is small ship only). The 3 bank + BR on a medium base though is super fast.

3 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

I don't own either of those

but I like that BSF list, why not right?!

this is probably wrong....

"Echo" (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Director Krennic (5)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Major Vermeil (26)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Agent Kallus (2)
ISB Slicer (2)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Advanced Ailerons (0)

Nu Squadron Pilot (18)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)
Os-1 Arsenal Loadout (2)

Total: 100

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Sorry was just looking through your list of ships. A Phantom with Krennic load on is super fun, especially with Adv Sensors. You could also drop the loadout on the Nu to upgrade to Whisper.

If I haven't mentioned it before, I highly recommend giving Kylo + Whisper w/Krennic is super fun and worth giving spin.

Just now, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Sorry was just looking through your list of ships. A Phantom with Krennic load on is super fun, especially with Adv Sensors. You could also drop the loadout on the Nu to upgrade to Whisper.

I like flying Echo a lot more than Whisper. and since...really it doesn't matter anymore 1.0 is dead! might as well fly what I enjoy better.

Just now, Wiredin said:

I like flying Echo a lot more than Whisper. and since...really it doesn't matter anymore 1.0 is dead! might as well fly what I enjoy better.

For sure, I overall think that Adv Sensor on a Krennic'd phantom is worth playing. It is just fun.

3 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Seriously @sirjorj this site is great, I know its a work in progress but makes it so much easier to browse 2.0 cards.

I don't really care at all about 1.0 Nym anymore. So what are general opinions on the 2.0 Scrugg?

Original 1.0 genius logic would look a little like this? That red barrel roll restricts alot though Expert Handling can make it white.

Makes this and Deathfire one of the few bombers that can drop bombs outside of the system phase. Up Up Up? Or no big deal?

As far as turrets the Scrugg looks to be able to set up a 180 arc equivalent like the Hwk-290 can with a 90 degree rotating turret equipped. Will Nym still be able to fly a kite?

Or without a full 360 turret to lean on will the scrugg go even more towards being used as a missile platform?

When it was originally spoiled I was hyped about the Scrugg because I thought it would be a kind of Scum B-Wing with a few more bombs.

Trajectory + Missile isn't exactly bad in 2.0 either but certainly will be more difficult to line up than it is currently.

The bombers are gonna be hard to judge without slots since those kinda make the ship.

16 hours ago, Brunas said:

On the AC nyms - I see them, but they're wrong. AC Nym was only really arguable with Dengar, but in all other cases AS is a straight up improvement. You can even see it in the french national: half the nyms have AS, half AC in the top 16, half AS. Same for Belguim actually.

And the other main thing is, we had plenty of accuracy corrector nyms at Nova too - they just didn't perform to the end. As far as I know it's the only complete dataset of it's type since an early worlds, so it's very eye opening in what people actually play (thanks again @Antigrapist), though I'll have to go dive through to see what the exact performances were.

http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=3371

http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=3370

top 64: http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=3383

edit: just checked, 9 AS v 2 AC in the top 64, vs 30 AS 15 AC that showed up to the event in total. So, pretty conclusively that (for that event) AS was the correct choice.

something something results based logic. something about advanced slam k-wings.

3 hours ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

@Wiredin Well for a tournament this weekend I am going for max cancer so that I can say I flew a BSF17. I shameless stole this from a top 8 at World's.

"Crimson Specialist" — B/SF-17 Bomber	27
Trajectory Simulator	1
Thermal Detonators	3
Ordnance Silos	2
Deflective Plating	1
Ship Total: 34
Ezra Bridger (Sheathipede) — Sheathipede-class Shuttle	17
Snap Shot	2
Sabine Wren	2
R3-A2	2
Ship Total: 23
Captain Nym (Rebel) — Scurrg H-6 Bomber	30
Veteran Instincts	1
Autoblaster Turret	2
Extra Munitions	2
Harpoon Missiles	4
Bomblet Generator	3
Trajectory Simulator	1
"Genius"	0
Guidance Chips	0
Havoc	0
Ship Total: 43

How about instead of "shamelessly stealing" it, I'll just let you "borrow" it. Have fun with Bob!

@Scott Pilgrim2 not enough B-SF's:

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel Alliance&d=v4!s!279:245,237,-1,-1:62:-1:;279:245,244,181,-1:62:-1:;279:245,244,41,-1:62:-1:&sn=New Squadron&obs=

(And yes I know the other one is actually better )

4 hours ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

@Wiredin Well for a tournament this weekend I am going for max cancer so that I can say I flew a BSF17. I shameless stole this from a top 8 at World's.

"Crimson Specialist" — B/SF-17 Bomber	27
Trajectory Simulator	1
Thermal Detonators	3
Ordnance Silos	2
Deflective Plating	1
Ship Total: 34
Ezra Bridger (Sheathipede) — Sheathipede-class Shuttle	17
Snap Shot	2
Sabine Wren	2
R3-A2	2
Ship Total: 23
Captain Nym (Rebel) — Scurrg H-6 Bomber	30
Veteran Instincts	1
Autoblaster Turret	2
Extra Munitions	2
Harpoon Missiles	4
Bomblet Generator	3
Trajectory Simulator	1
"Genius"	0
Guidance Chips	0
Havoc	0
Ship Total: 43

If you wanna go full cancer, swap ezra for adapt fenn and get engine nym in there.

23 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

If you wanna go full cancer, swap ezra for adapt fenn and get engine nym in there.

I've always been afraid of cancer... but why not embrace it just to smack people around and win a game for once

Crimson Squadron Pilot (25)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
Ordnance Silos (2)
Thermal Detonators (3)
Deflective Plating (1)

Captain Nym (Rebel) (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Extra Munitions (2)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
"Genius" (0)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Havoc (0)

Fenn Rau (Sheathipede) (20)
Adaptability (0)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)

Total: 100

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Engine without AS isn't very useful

1 minute ago, Brunas said:

Engine without AS isn't very useful

ah yes your right.

drop the plating, drop thermals, add seismic

3 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Engine without AS isn't very useful

2 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

ah yes your right.

drop the plating, drop thermals, add seismic

Ps 10 fenn is the advanced sensors

Getting sabine in there might be useful

1 minute ago, catachanninja said:

Ps 10 fenn is the advanced sensors

Getting sabine in there might be useful

Crimson Squadron Pilot (25)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
Ordnance Silos (2)
Seismic Charges (2)

Captain Nym (Rebel) (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Extra Munitions (2)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
"Genius" (0)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Havoc (0)

Fenn Rau (Sheathipede) (20)
Adaptability (0)
Sabine Wren (2)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)

Total: 100

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I like the idea of this one too.

Miranda Doni (29)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Extra Munitions (2)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Sabine Wren (2)
Cluster Mines (4)
Cluster Mines (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)

AP-5 (15)
Inspiring Recruit (1)
R2 Astromech (1)

Wedge Antilles (29)
Expertise (4)
Renegade Refit (-2)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)

Total: 99

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3 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

Crimson Squadron Pilot (25)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
Ordnance Silos (2)
Seismic Charges (2)

Captain Nym (Rebel) (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Extra Munitions (2)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Bomblet Generator (3)
Trajectory Simulator (1)
"Genius" (0)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Havoc (0)

Fenn Rau (Sheathipede) (20)
Adaptability (0)
Sabine Wren (2)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)

Total: 100

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I like the idea of this one too.

Miranda Doni (29)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Extra Munitions (2)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Sabine Wren (2)
Cluster Mines (4)
Cluster Mines (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)

AP-5 (15)
Inspiring Recruit (1)
R2 Astromech (1)

Wedge Antilles (29)
Expertise (4)
Renegade Refit (-2)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)

Total: 99

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I'm pretty sure there was a list with wedge miranda and a third to dole out nasty alpha at the end of 1.0 but i don't really wanna chase it.

5 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

I'm pretty sure there was a list with wedge miranda and a third to dole out nasty alpha at the end of 1.0 but i don't really wanna chase it.

I was running my alpha strike list of Jan/Wedge/Norra for a long time but have retired it. Ran Jan/Wedge/Wulf (with Saw crew) and that was just disgusting.... but Iv'e been playing 2/3 of that list for 6 months straight.

8 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

I'm pretty sure there was a list with wedge miranda and a third to dole out nasty alpha at the end of 1.0 but i don't really wanna chase it.

Gotta be something cheap.

How's this?

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel Alliance&d=v4!s!0:27,264,3:-1:34:M.20;139:135,126,-1,243,63,237,-1:-1:25:;67:170,241:-1:25:&sn=New Squadron&obs=

10 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Gotta be something cheap.

How's this?

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel Alliance&d=v4!s!0:27,264,3:-1:34:M.20;139:135,126,-1,243,63,237,-1:-1:25:;67:170,241:-1:25:&sn=New Squadron&obs=

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel Alliance&d=v4!s!0:27,136,253:-1:34:;139:135,-1,-1,243,63,237,-1:-1:24:;275:27,-1,-1:-1:-1:&sn=New Squadron&obs=

1 minute ago, catachanninja said:

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel Alliance&d=v4!s!0:27,136,253:-1:34:;139:135,-1,-1,243,63,237,-1:-1:24:;275:27,-1,-1:-1:-1:&sn=New Squadron&obs=

I think I'd rather have regen and IA on Wedge to live longer and have a third high-PS missile shot. Wedge's 3 dice with agility reduction on the defender can still be ok.

This one looks fun though.

I think this was @LagJanson 's version of the rebel alpha

Wedge Antilles (29)
Adaptability (0)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Captain Nym (Rebel) (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Rey (2)

Airen Cracken (19)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Guidance Chips (0)

Total: 100

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13 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

I think this was @LagJanson 's version of the rebel alpha

Wedge Antilles (29)
Adaptability (0)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Captain Nym (Rebel) (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Rey (2)

Airen Cracken (19)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Guidance Chips (0)

Total: 100

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I like that version, i still like miranda over nym though, better midgame in case your opponent is a coward and choses not to joust you.

59 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Ps 10 fenn is the advanced sensors

Getting sabine in there might be useful

what if you had two advanced sensors tho