3 hours ago, Biophysical said:

You're literally Pol Pot. Did I do that right?

Rekt, I think?

More history aware Poe's law in action?

2 hours ago, Brunas said:

Rekt, I think?

More history aware Poe's law in action?

doesn’t that involve cole’s law?

Time to knock the dust off of Vader, he's going on the table. Vader, Quiz and Vermeil + Krennick. Giving it a shot tonight. The reaper looks silly when it's in the box. It gets even more ridiculous once you take it out and put it on a small base.

9 minutes ago, viedit said:

Time to knock the dust off of Vader, he's going on the table. Vader, Quiz and Vermeil + Krennick. Giving it a shot tonight. The reaper looks silly when it's in the box. It gets even more ridiculous once you take it out and put it on a small base.

The ridiculousness doesn't stop there. Don't forget ISB Slicers.

I need to change my response to that "What is the Easiest List You have ever used?" thread.

Because some variation on Vermiel Krennic is definitely it.

Its amazing how much easier 1.0 is when you have mods and your opponent can't even choose to have them.

*Correction

13 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

The ridiculousness doesn't stop there. Don't forget ISB Slicers.

I need to change my response to that "What is the Easiest List You have ever used?" thread.

Because some variation on Vermiel Krennic is definitely it.

Its amazing how much easier 1.0 is when you have mods and your opponent can't even choose to have them.

*Correction

I mean, Ghost-Fenn players still lose a lot.

15 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

The ridiculousness doesn't stop there. Don't forget ISB Slicers.

I need to change my response to that "What is the Easiest List You have ever used?" thread.

Because some variation on Vermiel Krennic is definitely it.

Its amazing how much easier 1.0 is when you have mods and your opponent can't even choose to have them.

*Correction

Pretty much why I am thinking of flying VK with a Defender. Sounds really easy.

3 minutes ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Pretty much why I am thinking of flying VK with a Defender. Sounds really easy.

I've seen a lot if lists with VK (I like that abbreviation), and I've written a few, and honestly it feels like none of them are wrong. It's just a matter of what ships you like to fly. It's all good.

24 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

I mean, Ghost-Fenn players still lose a lot.

Oh I didnt say that Easy implies winning. Its more about the feeling of complete control it gives you over gameplay.

How do you fit the full VK with Vader/Quiz? I think you have to drop the EPTs off Vader and VK.

Are there any situations when it makes more sense to Optimize Quiz instead of Vader? I could make an edge case on Ghost Fenn and Dash matchups where Quiz is actually my preferred end game ace since AT minimize turret damage.

5 minutes ago, defkhan1 said:

How do you fit the full VK with Vader/Quiz? I think you have to drop the EPTs off Vader and VK.

My build drops LWF off of Krennic.

You should add the disrespect Guidance Chips to VK so that people are always confused when you turn a die to a hit.

Is the ps of vermeil really worth it? Why?

2 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Is the ps of vermeil really worth it? Why?

Miranda makes it pretty nice. His ability is, I think, the real reason to take him, though.

3 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Miranda makes it pretty nice. His ability is, I think, the real reason to take him, though.

His ability being a better, non-stressing opportunist ept?

I flew my reaper as pure support who also gets a shot with the TL from the prototype. But in this case here you turn him into an actual damage dealer in the squad, for few more points?

12 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Is the ps of vermeil really worth it? Why?

Gets above Dash and into the same bracket as Miri and Quizzy. Also, his ability is kinda silly.

50 minutes ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Pretty much why I am thinking of flying VK with a Defender. Sounds really easy.

Rexler Brath (37 + 1)
+ Juke (2)
+ TIE/x7 (-2)
+ Multi-spectral Camouflage (1)
Major Vermeil (26 + 10)
+ Veteran Instincts (1)
+ Director Krennic (5)
+ ISB Slicer (2)
+ Advanced Ailerons (0)
+ Lightweight Frame (2)
Omega Leader (21 + 5)
+ Juke (2)
+ Comm Relay (3)

You thought you were rolling an evade at some point in this game? That's cute.

Sidenote: Ryad or VI Vess are probably better, but whatever. It's an excuse to use Rexie. ?

49 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

I mean, Ghost-Fenn players still lose a lot.

Man... that made me think of worlds, and what I played against.

That experience, even without 2.0 coming, would have made me quit the game.

As usual, the people were great, but the gaming experience itself was miserable.

6 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Miranda makes it pretty nice. His ability is, I think, the real reason to take him, though.

The nice thing is that you get some more repositioning options, but even without moving after Miranda you can still jam her. The nice thing is if you jam her after she moves, you prevent a coordinated TL that round.

1 minute ago, Tlfj200 said:

Man... that made me think of worlds, and what I played against.

That experience, even without 2.0 coming, would have made me quit the game.

As usual, the people were great, but the gaming experience itself was miserable.

Funny thing was that was the list that I shredded at Worlds. I had built my FML variation to be good against the field, but it really gave Ghost-Fenn a bad time.

Just now, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Funny thing was that was the list that I shredded at Worlds. I had built my FML variation to be good against the field, but it really gave Ghost-Fenn a bad time.

2x triple wookies

2x ghost fenn mirrors (even if not mirrors, 2x ghost fenn)

1x quad gunboats (I was almost a monster)

1x 3B2A (I was definitely a monster)


The extremes were so bad, anf 4/6 games were just raw cancer. (Again, disclaimer - the people were awesome. I miss the people of x-wing a whole lot. Thank god for 2.0).

1 minute ago, Tlfj200 said:

2x triple wookies

2x ghost fenn mirrors (even if not mirrors, 2x ghost fenn)

1x quad gunboats (I was almost a monster)

1x 3B2A (I was definitely a monster)


The extremes were so bad, anf 4/6 games were just raw cancer. (Again, disclaimer - the people were awesome. I miss the people of x-wing a whole lot. Thank god for 2.0).

Yeah I only ran into one jerk at Worlds. Everyone else was pretty cool, even though Sim and Rasta were intense (but it was an elimination game, so it made sense).

I ran into:

Duncan Aces

Kylo + 2GB

4x Scurrg

Rebel PS10 Alpha

Nymranda

Triple Wookies

GF x2

Control Bots

15 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

His ability being a better, non-stressing opportunist ept?

I flew my reaper as pure support who also gets a shot with the TL from the prototype. But in this case here you turn him into an actual damage dealer in the squad, for few more points?

Yeah. Basically. He's then even better against Miranda if you have initiative, and extremely strong against Dash. He's not even a support ship, he's a straight up combat ship that happens to carry the points you used to upgrade another ship. Think a triple aces list where one of thecaces is a Reaper.

So, 20 point FO's with Optics and Crack. How do I best use them? Just try to engage all at once with Focus+Lock and delete stuff?

6 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

So, 20 point FO's with Optics and Crack. How do I best use them? Just try to engage all at once with Focus+Lock and delete stuff?

Good luck. That list topped my "Hardest to play". Pray to whatever deity you acknowledge and hope you don't see a Trajectory Nym, Scum Alpha, or bomb heavy list. You could have two alpha'd off the board on the first exchange. Miranda will just run and regen and plink you to death with TLT. Two dice primary and caring about arcs was just painful against stuff that could provide huge spike damage and didn't care about arcs.

15 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

So, 20 point FO's with Optics and Crack. How do I best use them? Just try to engage all at once with Focus+Lock and delete stuff?

3 minutes ago, viedit said:

Good luck. That list topped my "Hardest to play". Pray to whatever deity you acknowledge and hope you don't see a Trajectory Nym, Scum Alpha, or bomb heavy list. You could have two alpha'd off the board on the first exchange. Miranda will just run and regen and plink you to death with TLT. Two dice primary and caring about arcs was just painful against stuff that could provide huge spike damage and didn't care about arcs.

Games I won with that list were about a big initial joust followed by eating away at targets with healthy ships while fleeing and tanking with damaged ships.

Nymiranda is absolutely your worst matchup.

Overall, I'm not sure if a block or dispersed formation is better. I'm sure there are right answers depending the opposition, but I haven't played enough to know what those answers are.