4 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

I agree

The Autothrusters alone are worth it, right?

I wonder how many StarVipers have ended up in garbage cans over the years as Imperial players opened the pack, took out the 'thrusters, and promptly trashed everything else.

Yep Autothusters to. It basically like buying an errata pack for turrets.

As for the Starvipers....that would be a crying shame....Guri at least is pretty awesome and people grossly underestimate her power next to Fenn Rau and Talonbane.

1 minute ago, Kieransi said:

I agree

The Autothrusters alone are worth it, right?

I wonder how many StarVipers have ended up in garbage cans over the years as Imperial players opened the pack, took out the 'thrusters, and promptly trashed everything else.

I put up a display case of ships I never use - there were 3 autothrusters expanion pack models in there, and 2 harpoon missiles expansion pack models next to them.

The 5 of them look cool next to each other though

I managed to snag a worlds ticket on the 10th... for IA...

So figuring I needed to learn how to actually play it some time before I showed up I spent the weekend buying things and reading the manual. Still haven't actually played it yet though... I feel like this is going to end well

1 minute ago, Brunas said:

I put up a display case of ships I never use - there were 3 autothrusters expanion pack models in there, and 2 harpoon missiles expansion pack models next to them.

The 5 of them look cool next to each other though

Droools at the modding potential of 5 celestialsneks...

1 minute ago, Brunas said:

there were 3 autothrusters expanion pack models in there and 2 harpoon missiles expansion pack models next to them

You need to paint them like different butterlies and pin them to the wall of your display case.

Just now, Makaze said:

I managed to snag a worlds ticket on the 10th... for IA...

So figuring I needed to learn how to actually play it some time before I showed up I spent the weekend buying things and reading the manual. Still haven't actually played it yet though... I feel like this is going to end well

I believe in you. All the way baby!!!

7 minutes ago, Brunas said:

I put up a display case of ships I never use - there were 3 autothrusters expanion pack models in there, and 2 harpoon missiles expansion pack models next to them.

The 5 of them look cool next to each other though

You really have to try this kinda stuff out! Its such a good way to do ok in Swiss and then grab a beer and hang out and watch some games after getting eliminated in the cut. *Add any third ship, I use talonbane but hes bad so use something else.

8 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

I agree

The Autothrusters alone are worth it, right?

I wonder how many StarVipers have ended up in garbage cans over the years as Imperial players opened the pack, took out the 'thrusters, and promptly trashed everything else.

My wife asked if I was ever going top open the 4 boxes on my shelf... I said I already did... she asked why they don't look like it.

I pointed at two intensity cards and two flight assist astromechs.

3 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

You really have to try this kinda stuff out! Its such a good way to do ok in Swiss and then grab a beer and hang out and watch some games after getting eliminated in the cut. *Add any third ship, I use talonbane but hes bad so use something else.

Fenn Rau — Protectorate Starfighter	28
Push the Limit	3
Autothrusters	2
Concord Dawn Protector	1
Ship Total: 34
Guri — StarViper	30
Intensity	2
Advanced Sensors	3
Autothrusters	2
StarViper Mk. II	-3
Virago	1
Ship Total: 35

If I were going to play fairish things you're asking my to betray Soontir.

You know this is something I cannot do.

3 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

My wife asked if I was ever going top open the 4 boxes on my shelf... I said I already did... she asked why they don't look like it.

I pointed at two intensity cards and two flight assist astromechs.

This is why I made Flight Assist Astros as an alt art card- No one should have to buy expansions purely for upgrades.

32 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

No, it's depressing. Ontario is doing it's best to mimic the US on a national level.

• Ford - oh no, not again. Not another Ford.
• Wynne - uhg
• Um... who was the NDP leader again? She's doing her best to make the NDP invisible, it seems... Oh she's not trying to do that?

We get to decide which level of systemic racism we feel better about. I mean, it's not Ford Bad (tm), but it doesn't soothe the soul.

13 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

I wonder how many StarVipers have ended up in garbage cans over the years as Imperial players opened the pack, took out the 'thrusters, and promptly trashed everything else.

That would be so many kinds of wrong! We have 4 of them, 2 of each, and they are gorgeous! I even fielded them and won games with them.

I pay attention in class for ~20 minutes and this happens... for shame...

@Kieransi You also think gunboats look better than Defenders, so now that I think about that right there should get you removed.

Just now, Brunas said:

If I were going to play fairish things you're asking my to betray Soontir.

You know this is something I cannot do.

Also, 35 points is basically autosoontir at this point, unless you want some defender jank.

In terms of ActualKraytKontent, I just finished the first campaign mission for a co-op armada thing, and am wondering if I try to make a better AI for it. Too little time, too many word documents.

Also, I was listening to the latest podcast, but then there was no CnC, so I was sad. Got a shout-out though!

4 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

My wife asked if I was ever going top open the 4 boxes on my shelf... I said I already did... she asked why they don't look like it.

I pointed at two intensity cards and two flight assist astromechs.

Don't forget Unguided rockets! Ifs definitely a real card, anf not a fire-starter!

And my favorite forum freak-out is totally the X-Wing is Fine! Europe is Better! part. Most fun.

Just now, Kaptin Krunch said:

This is why I made Flight Assist Astros as an alt art card- No one should have to buy expansions purely for upgrades.

I had to... it was between 2 lists for regionals back in January:

Kylo/Rho/Rho and Wedge/Jan/Norra. I took Kylo to the big game (and placed top half with stupid matchups and not the matchups I tech'd against), and took the rebel list to the hanger bay and got revenge on the imps that murdered me in swiss. So I needed the FAA cards! I have three of the stupid things...

Just now, drjkel said:

That would be so many kinds of wrong! We have 4 of them, 2 of each, and they are gorgeous! I even fielded them and won games with them.

The Starviper is an amazing model, and SO MUCH FUN!

30 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

So, injecting FFG subject matter in, without putting the thread on topic, I'm looking at Imperial Assault again. I've been enjoying the campaign setting, have a bunch of minis painted, and now that the Sabine shaped hole in the system has been filled by a regen Sabine, I'm looking at skirmish again. Third time's the charm? I need to find somebody though to teach me what the heck I've been doing wrong in skirmish... First two games have been so one sided that I didn't find enjoyment in winning or losing.... (1 of each)

28 minutes ago, Brunas said:

IA is really fun but I haven't been able to find an online resource that actually helps much. Just poking people that are good at it for advice is probably not a scalable solution!

By far the best online IA resource is the Zion's Finest Slack channel. It's a Slack setup by the ZF podcast and it's essentially a giant, structured group chat. Most of the best players post there and there's discussions happening all the time. Go there to post questions and you'll get helpful responses very quickly. That's pretty much where I've been spending the majority of the time I usually would be spending on the forums/X-wing subreddit. Shoot an email to [email protected] and ask for an invite to the channel. Also check out Brett Kelly's Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/brettpkelly. He's the current IA US National champ and he streams Vassal games regularly. The commentary is very insightful, giving advice about general strategy and listbuilding and whatnot.

Also if anybody wants a Vassal game, just hit me up anytime. I'd be happy to play and offer advice.

7 minutes ago, IAmRhyn said:

I know this is bad, but that is a scary knife fight if it closes past the alpha strike Manaroo — JumpMaster 5000	27
Attanni Mindlink	1
Intelligence Agent	1
Dead Man's Switch	2
Ion Projector	2
Ship Total: 33
Guri — StarViper	30
Attanni Mindlink	1
Advanced Sensors	3
Contraband Cybernetics	1
Autothrusters	2
StarViper Mk. II	-3
Virago	1
Ship Total: 35
Fenn Rau — Protectorate Starfighter	28
Fearlessness	1
Autothrusters	2
Concord Dawn Protector	1
Ship Total: 32

This isnt bad! Its absolutely Swiss good. Its just Cut bad.

I forgot the best X-wing news of the week! My FLGS finally got their first shipments of Rebel Bombers in! It only took 5 months to make it to the National Capital of CANADA... Sadly, the hype was all out at this point.

Asmodee also managed to send seasonal kits for all their games except X-wing. Well played, Asmodee, well played... We split a stress/Corran kit...

1 minute ago, Do I need a Username said:

Got a shout-out though!

Take pride in it. I've been called out and misquoted in four different podcasts (that I know of)... Nobody quite nailed it like @Tlfj200 who called me a <censored>, without sending it personally at me.

1 minute ago, drjkel said:

I forgot the best X-wing news of the week! My FLGS finally got their first shipments of Rebel Bombers in! It only took 5 months to make it to the National Capital of CANADA... Sadly, the hype was all out at this point.

Asmodee also managed to send seasonal kits for all their games except X-wing. Well played, Asmodee, well played... We split a stress/Corran kit...

Just got a bomber in stock last week at our local shop.. they're out of stock again now. Also got three Q1 kits for X-Wing, so they still might come in. I wonder if the Nationals prizes ever got mailed off...

I so badly wish there was a Swiss List-Juggler available. Lots of really interesting decently optimized things that it could be used to highlight.

I wonder what it would take for the X-Wing community to figure out a way to record 100% of major tournaments ( wins, losses, matchup results, MOV ) for all rounds through List Juggler.

5 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

Just got a bomber in stock last week at our local shop.. they're out of stock again now. Also got three Q1 kits for X-Wing, so they still might come in. I wonder if the Nationals prizes ever got mailed off...

I asked all other 10 attending players if someone wanted to take over as TO, I got silence and "I could help you"s. The madness of not knowing what you're working with with prize support (including the bad stock situation for participation prizes) and the need to always think up new alt formats is wearing thin.

The good news is that some of the newer players thought TOs were "well compensated" for all of this. So we're just unaware of all the gold we're rolling in.

I keep reminding myself I'm in it for my son having fun, and he did (except when he played me).

@Do I need a Username, I finished my rules for an X-Wing campaign too! I added in some stuff inspired by the original PC games - firing ordnance at extreme range and allowing people to shoot it down, allocating energy to guns vs. shields vs. engines, etc. And then I've also got all that Force-using and slot-adding stuff that I usually have in there. Plus a banlist to get rid of the OP cards that break the campaign format. Plus an extra bonus, I only needed one page, 12pt font, double spaced.

11 minutes ago, drjkel said:

I asked all other 10 attending players if someone wanted to take over as TO, I got silence and "I could help you"s. The madness of not knowing what you're working with with prize support (including the bad stock situation for participation prizes) and the need to always think up new alt formats is wearing thin.

The good news is that some of the newer players thought TOs were "well compensated" for all of this. So we're just unaware of all the gold we're rolling in.

I keep reminding myself I'm in it for my son having fun, and he did (except when he played me).

We've got a couple of older kits that went unused, so we do have a fall back option locally that we were prepared to use until these kits showed up shockingly quickly. We should compare notes on alt-formats though, maybe it'd take a load off us.

That's good news? Yeesh.

I'm currently watching @Tlfj200 argue with people about what the meta of the game is, and it reminds me of a teacher attempting to teach a problem student. The teacher is pointing out facts, and showing tables, and has methodology, but the student only wants to yell about feelings and two data points. Keep fighting the good fight Travis.

Side note: Why are the Krayts the reason the community is toxic? Most of the points are well reasoned, with evidence, and don't alpha a person (Meaning start with ad hominem, because sometimes Krayts respond in kind). But I guess we are the bad ones? Do they understand what toxic means?

4 minutes ago, Do I need a Username said:

Do they understand what toxic means?

I'm not sure I even know what Krayt means.