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so I won't have to send a text, @pyoinator @ToiletPaper Fiend

Proud Tradition Stopping Shuttles that roll a 3rd attack die go whee!

LAAT/Is start at 51. Double crew, double gunner, double missile.

Synced Laser Cannon appears to be six points.

MMP is 8 points? lmao
LAATs are 51? lmao
they only gave cannon slots to the stupid **** geonosian with no ability, rip
but HMPs have crew slots....
Xi are 38? lmao
WHY IS TEREX ONLY 6 POINTS
WHY IS ATP ONLY ONE POINT????????????

9 minutes ago, svelok said:

MMP is 8 points? lmao
LAATs are 51? lmao
they only gave cannon slots to the stupid **** geonosian with no ability, rip
but HMPs have crew slots....
Xi are 38? lmao
WHY IS TEREX ONLY 6 POINTS
WHY IS ATP ONLY ONE POINT????????????

Now, I don't want to be that person that screams "thing bad on release because reason" but the LAAT seems a bit much at 51 for a ship that's supposed to get tooled out with crew to support a swarm. Stay tuned while I figure out how to make degenerate palp aces though.

Edit: Flavor this to taste, yoda's also 15 so you could also take him i guess, or some other crew, or Plo or Mace or something. Maybe eventually an Actis? Probably not a good list but it's worth a try?

Laat/i Gunship - 212th Battalion Pilot - 65
212th Battalion Pilot - (51)
•Chancellor Palpatine (14)

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Anakin Skywalker - 67
•Anakin Skywalker - Hero of the Republic (62)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (5)

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Obi-Wan Kenobi - 53
•Obi-Wan Kenobi - Guardian of the Republic (49)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (4)

Total: 185/200

View in the X-Wing Squad Builder

this is the most confusing set of points in all of 2.0

someone tell me these are placeholders

wake me up from the dream

3 minutes ago, svelok said:

this is the most confusing set of points in all of 2.0

someone tell me these are placeholders

wake me up from the dream

I think the word you're searching for is "nightmare". I4 bugs cost 30 pt still. XD

Just now, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

I think the word you're searching for is "nightmare". I4 bugs cost 30 pt still. XD

I expect that this is just the points of the new ships, and that the real update is still on its way.

PHOENIX SQUADRON PILOTS SHOULD BE 27 POINTS

• Seems like that LAAT ability is pretty powerful, huh?
• Named Xi seem fairly priced (Malarus + 6 FO!), generic Xi is ?!?!?!?!?!
• HMP can be 5-per-list with a wide array of toys, and can easily sling Probes for long-range locks. I3 with Config and Probes? I1 with Probes and K2-B4 and 3 Discords and a DBM?

//

Anyhow, The Magnificent [Squad] Seven:

• Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated) 45
• Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated) 45
• Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated) 45
• Warthog (Seventh Fleet Gunner) 63

Are Roombas the cheapest relay carrier at 34? Dooku crew is gonna be pretty close to autoinclude.

edit: berwer, two roombas, and four drones has room for activities, is that anything?

34 minutes ago, Npmartian said:

Edit: Flavor this to taste, yoda's also 15 so you could also take him i guess, or some other crew, or Plo or Mace or something. Maybe eventually an Actis? Probably not a good list but it's worth a try?

Yoda is nearly useless with Aethersprites. He'll only trigger on their Purple Evade. With Actis, might be OK.

2 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Just a starting point.

Obi and plo and vi and purple v1s please

30 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Anyhow, The Magnificent [Squad] Seven:

• Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated) 45
• Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated) 45
• Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated) 45
• Warthog (Seventh Fleet Gunner) 63

I too like that squad, so much beef and blocking

2 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Just a starting point.

what does sad percentage even mean?

Hyperspace Nantex can run the combination of Marksmanship and Deadeye Shot, for easily exposing cards. Seems OK.

3 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Hyperspace Nantex can run the combination of Marksmanship and Deadeye Shot, for easily exposing cards. Seems OK.

As if that ship needed more tools...

Deadeye seems pretty useful overall as another of the "cheap slot filler" talents, and thane can expose 2 cards if he can find a crit, as he's got no predator to use in Hyperspace.

59 minutes ago, jagsba said:

Obi and plo and vi and purple v1s please

FTFY!

2 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

FTFY!

i've actually got no idea what these graphs mean please tell me

1 hour ago, svelok said:

WHY IS ATP ONLY ONE POINT????????????

Because its an effect with a downside and which gives you the most minor modification bonus possible to give in the game for its upside, and which only gives it when you miss, and it comes at the cost of taking other more 'proactive' upgrades like Optics.

This actually strikes me as a good thing. It means FFG understands that 'Miss-wing' is a toxic meta that isn't fun, and that they intend to 'push' effects that assist ships in getting some reward for successfully staying in arc on engagement even if their attacks are unreliable.

Which is a good thing, because it rewards high skill play vs aces and punishes aces for 'brute forcing' past fire arcs. Hopefully Starbird Slash and Patience will also be shockingly cheap as well, to spread this sort of effect across as many factions as possible.

5 minutes ago, dezzmont said:

Because its an effect with a downside and which gives you the most minor modification bonus possible to give in the game for its upside, and which only gives it when you miss, and it comes at the cost of taking other more 'proactive' upgrades like Optics.

This actually strikes me as a good thing. It means FFG understands that 'Miss-wing' is a toxic meta that isn't fun, and that they intend to 'push' effects that assist ships in getting some reward for successfully staying in arc on engagement even if their attacks are unreliable.

Which is a good thing, because it rewards high skill play vs aces and punishes aces for 'brute forcing' past fire arcs. Hopefully Starbird Slash and Patience will also be shockingly cheap as well, to spread this sort of effect across as many factions as possible.

That's a thing i've struggled to put into words for a while, and part of why I originally liked upgrades like tactician and r3a2. I think that that the generic should be rewarded for getting the double repo moves last ace in arc. 1.0s stress mechanic may have been too oppressive (to some people :P). Commander cody is another effect that I like for that reason. I guess so far we've seen too strong of a reward and too weak, maybe atp will prove to be a sweet spot? That said turning any ship in a list into 1.0 biggs is a heckuva downside, so this may still prove too weak.

I1 HMPs cost 4 more points than an I4 Nantex...there is no god

7 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

I1 HMPs cost 4 more points than an I4 Nantex...there is no god

Other than Nantex

7 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

I1 HMPs cost 4 more points than an I4 Nantex...there is no god

I think it’ll cost very similarly to a Nantex or potentially less whenever we get an adjustment. This is teething problems.

I’m a little more grumpy about 3 point configs.

In the slightly disappointed camp on LAAT pricing, but mainly because I fully intend to run one. That ship ability seems strong.

Which is probably why I should be pleased with the price.

Actually almost tipped into mad about Conc bombs. I suppose I'll have to get Emon out again to partially alleviate that.

I did this- Plo- CLT, 104th x2, 212th with Ghost Company and 7FG. 198pt.

Maybe I like.

I have a proper side-eye going on with Plo crew, but my Plo Delta is good paint and must be flown. Nothing wrong with 2 focus tokens on a beefy double tap though, and that double tapping thing throwing rerolls and extra dice around seems nice as well. The firing arc and range coordination is very interesting.

Obi, 212th with Plo and 2 104ths seems like something to do instead. Just beef up and not die enough.