I too think Tycho needs a new ability. His old one is cool, but A's tend to do a looot of blue. So effectively in 2.0, it means...tighter or wider turns plus Sloane, Debris, and Kylo proofing?

Let's push the envelope on this being the only chassis where Deadeyeshot is actually good (combo of the Marksmanship slot and guns that hit like a wet noodle). Could also make Concussions better with him in the list, but more interested in the I5 and/or Y's thematically carpet bombing:

If an enemy ship in your bullseye would expose one of its damage cards, 2 damage cards are exposed instead.

I think that's pretty Psycho.

Tycho with an "okay" ability at I5 or I6 is fine. That's where I want "okay" abilities. Strong abilities should be on lower initiatives.

If you have 2 or fewer stress tokens, you may perform actions on your action bar, even while stressed.

This seems good enough for me. If you want an I5 with a better ability, give it to Hera, since her current ability would be wild on an A-Wing.

50 minutes ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

If an enemy ship in your bullseye would expose one of its damage cards, 2 damage cards are exposed instead.

I like this, but I want it on a lower initiative ship so getting that bullseye isn't easy mode, and forces the opponent to consider whether they want to stay in bullseye or reposition, as opposed to the Soontir-esque "you're in my bullseye, too bad, so sad".

15 minutes ago, 5050Saint said:

Tycho with an "okay" ability at I5 or I6 is fine. That's where I want "okay" abilities. Strong abilities should be on lower initiatives.

If you have 2 or fewer stress tokens, you may perform actions on your action bar, even while stressed.

This seems good enough for me. If you want an I5 with a better ability, give it to Hera, since her current ability would be wild on an A-Wing.

I like this, but I want it on a lower initiative ship so getting that bullseye isn't easy mode, and forces the opponent to consider whether they want to stay in bullseye or reposition, as opposed to the Soontir-esque "you're in my bullseye, too bad, so sad".

Either way, an I5 Deadeye Marksman A is a too bad, so sad. The ability might be ok because diminishing returns?

6 minutes ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

Either way, an I5 Deadeye Marksman A is a too bad, so sad. The ability might be ok because diminishing returns?

They will run up on the same problem as Thane in that damage needs to exist for them to expose it. Not bad obviously, but there are games where Thane pulls his weight and then some (direct hit and panicked pilot as amazing), and games where he does nothing with his ability (stunned pilot, fuel leak, and hull breach have plenty instances of being a blank crit). I imagine it will be the same for the Deadeye A's, and they don't get to choose.

Overall though, I look forward to trying them out.

3 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

I... I don't want Psycho Tycho back.

I just think he's boring.

In 1e, the stuff that made Tycho fun was the way he could really go off the rails with stuff like Expert Handling and Rage. In 2e, I guess he can use Daredevil, but that's about it. Still can't Boost -> Roll. I think he'd hit a bit of a nostalgia vibe, and then be a kinda meh pilot.

Contrast: Tycho with some new pilot ability. I don't have a grand idea what, but I figure 1e Tycho might just be a waste of an I5 A-Wing opportunity.

I agree regarding Tycho's 1.0 ability. It would end up making him feel just under-powered. I could see them giving Hera a similar ability since her crew version is based on doing stuff while stressed. Maybe something like

"2 charges, non-recurring

You can spend 1 charge to execute a red maneuver or perform an action while stressed.

After you fully execute a blue maneuver, recover one charge."

I like the idea of a stress-mitigation ability that also synergizes with chopper. Not sure about this specific interpretation. I've probably gone through about 50 different versions since 2.0 first came out.

I also think there's definitely a case for I6 Hera as a starfighter pilot, Phoenix Leader, or whatever other subtitle you want to give her.

I think folks are discounting how good actions while stressed actually is. Contraband cybernetics lets you do it once per game and is considered a pretty decent upgrade. The K-turn or sloop followed by a focus or reposition or both is pretty durn cool.

23 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:

I like the idea of a stress-mitigation ability that also synergizes with chopper.

This would be for a X-wing or Y-wing version of her correct? I suppose we could duct-tape Chop to the side of an A-Wing.

When are we going to get the Maarek Stele and Hera pack? It'd just be those two pilots, in everything they ever flew, ever.

21 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

I think folks are discounting how good actions while stressed actually is. Contraband cybernetics lets you do it once per game and is considered a pretty decent upgrade. The K-turn or sloop followed by a focus or reposition or both is pretty durn cool.

K-Turn or sloop->roll->boost->focus from jake?

Yeah, I'll take it.

7 minutes ago, 5050Saint said:

This would be for a X-wing or Y-wing version of her correct? I suppose we could duct-tape Chop to the side of an A-Wing.

When are we going to get the Maarek Stele and Hera pack? It'd just be those two pilots, in everything they ever flew, ever.

Definitely doesn't need Chop to function well; he just pushes it up to the next level a bit.

It would be great on A-Wings or B-Wings due to all of the awesome the red and blue actions/maneuvers.

It would be great on Y-Wings and X-Wings because Chop. Works for all Hera's needs IMO. But YMMV

7 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

This would be for a X-wing or Y-wing version of her correct? I suppose we could duct-tape Chop to the side of an A-Wing.

When are we going to get the Maarek Stele and Hera pack? It'd just be those two pilots, in everything they ever flew, ever.

Tell FFG that due to a rift in dimensions he caused with a malfunctioning hyperdrive, Oddball caused a circular family tree causal paradox without which Hera and Maarek wouldn't exist. This also explains why there seem to be two sequel eras involving the same OT characters: Legends and Canon. Hera belongs to Canon and doesn't exist for Legends and vice versa for Maarek. Being the derivative originator in the prime world, Oddball seems to be everywhen at once, explaining his I5 and piloting everything.

Nantexes are dumb

7 hours ago, MasterShake2 said:

Nantexes are dumb

10 hours ago, MasterShake2 said:

Nantexes are dumb

If I may inquire, how was rey+3 settled on?

Just now, catachanninja said:

If I may inquire, how was rey+3 settled on?

It was the list he had been playing, that's all. We might might doing Nantexans vs Nien/Ello/double I5 A-Wings next week which he feels could do better.

1 minute ago, MasterShake2 said:

It was the list he had been playing, that's all. We might might doing Nantexans vs Nien/Ello/double I5 A-Wings next week which he feels could do better.

Gotcha! Rey +3 is a solid looking list that to me, seems to have an atrocious matchup vs the nantex. I've sort of said it before, but it does illustrate a list that would probably feel terrible to walk into 6 nantex blindly with.

5X is so overpowered in extended that literally no one plays generic T65s, so what's the right price for xwings?

38? 37? 33? is a red squad vet better or worse than a passive concussion baron?

The LAAT/i crew dev team:

I'm assuming Maarek and Corran are rabbits?

Click "OK" if you agree.

Why is Hux angry about Jedi? The droid has a lot more to be angry about.

what's the highest possible price at which a generic t65 is still the best pilot in the game?

same question, but for generic tie brute...

1 hour ago, svelok said:

what's the highest possible price at which a generic t65 is still the best pilot in the game?

same question, but for generic tie brute...

Assuming you mean the generic i2 with no talent or elite slot, it'd have to be like 35?

3 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Click "OK" if you agree.

Does Anakin associate bugs with sand?

2 hours ago, catachanninja said:

Assuming you mean the generic i2 with no talent or elite slot, it'd have to be like 35?

heck you doing with your 20 extra points to make it best in game?

46 minutes ago, jagsba said:

heck you doing with your 20 extra points to make it best in game?

4 points buys you R5s on each. Might not be best in the game, but an extra 2 hull (effectively) from R5 makes them a bit tougher to take down.

2 hours ago, jagsba said:

heck you doing with your 20 extra points to make it best in game?

Would it be the best list in the game right now if they were priced at 33? Probably? Still no where near unbeatable.

Are there any upgrades you can put on 5 x wings that make them as good as 6 x wings with only foils? That might be your answer then.

edit: and the brute, would the new double cannon and one of the configs be good enough at 40? They are decently chonky bois. Gets them in medium base turreted reinforcing b-wing territory.