54 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Agent T-Rex Crew = FO Palp probably.

Setup: Equip this side faceup and place 3 calculate tokens on this card. At the start of the Engagement Phase, you may choose a friendly ship at range 0-3 and remove 1 calculate token from this card to have that ship gain a matching token. Then, if there are no calculate tokens on this card, flip it. Cyborg: During the System Phase, roll 1 attack die. On a hit or crit result, gain 1 calculate token. Otherwise gain 1 jam token. Action: Transfer 1 calculate token or 1 jam token to a ship at range 0-3.

Im sure itll be $$$ and at least you can delete the Xi pretty easily.

If it's too easy to kill and not even Pyre can slow that down, he might have value on a Starkiller. But the Xi has to be the correct choice with him. Since you're commiting where this calculate goes as opposed to Palp's perfect info, he's gotta be 8pt max until nerf.

Well, Rush still doesn't have the Fanatical slot, but he has this guy now though.

getting hype for Jango to make the force aces pay for their sins

m a n g o f e t t

Trex on a Xi is wasted because double modding 2 dice at a probably expansive cost is hard to justify.

Jam is nice on it, but it's unreliable.

His home is the upsilon but even there I'm not sure it will be worth because of upsilon's time in target issues

Malarus is fo howlrunner without being stuck in a fragile chassis

vonreg, hask and 3 sf might be a good list

Right now the ps 1 Silencer is the best FO ship imo

2 hours ago, Sunitsa said:

Right now the ps 1 Silencer is the best FO ship imo

Kylo, but yeah then the sje.

16 hours ago, Kyle Ren said:

getting hype for Jango to make the force aces anyone with a Focus token--including humble generics--pay for their sins

FTFY.

I dunno. I just think Jango is going to be a PITA for anyone. Force aces are more free to Lock, and then just reroll the blanks Jango changes your eyes into, since they get force charges to help cover their defenses against the rest of the enemy squad.

Plus he's an Init 6 Boosting "turret" who will almost surely have a force crew, and while he's not as robust against making stupid plays as Boba is, Boba's pilot ability forces him to often do dumb stuff, while Jango might be better at playing it safe.

17 hours ago, Kyle Ren said:

getting hype for Jango to make the force aces pay for their sins

Jango means I will buy into CIS (probably just the Infiltrator as well or maybe using my Scum Firespray with this one). Mandalorians compose 66% of my Scum lists. (And no, Disney, I'm not leaving the Old EU. I read that Dark Horse Jango/Jaster comic that was a bonus for completing stuff in the LucasArts Bounty Hunter game. Jango was a foundling through and through.)

It's cool that force users on ships with high muggle efficiency for their chassis like Kylo and Assajj aren't terrified of Jango, but force users that have effectively purple action chains to leave their dials open like Vader and Republic stuff are far more cautious/taking more dial mod droids.

Also, stoked that Dooku is really good on his right hand man's ship. Not stoked for the boring mirror.

5 hours ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

Jango means I will buy into CIS (probably just the Infiltrator as well or maybe using my Scum Firespray with this one). Mandalorians compose 66% of my Scum lists. (And no, Disney, I'm not leaving the Old EU. I read that Dark Horse Jango/Jaster comic that was a bonus for completing stuff in the LucasArts Bounty Hunter game. Jango was a foundling through and through.)

Dude the clone wars cartoon, which was pre Disney, established jango as not a mandalorian

23 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Dude the clone wars cartoon, which was pre Disney, established jango as not a mandalorian

As long as you consider Minister Almec to be a reputable source......

43 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Dude the clone wars cartoon, which was pre Disney, established jango as not a mandalorian

Conflicting canonical sources were a thing too common in the old EU. But I'll give a whole entire comic book series, a game made for promoting Episode 2, and a novel or two more canonical weight than a throwaway line. Perhaps a bit strange, but that's just me. IDK.

Clone Wars were--for the best--preserved and finished by Disney. But with all the Jango EU stuff gone, that means his entire backstory is open to rewriting. So the throwaway line turned Jaster's greatest pupil and arguably his adopted son, a survivor of the Mandalorian Purge and the one betrayed by Monstross, into some dude with a suit. A tad demystifying.

To turn to a more positive note, making a new character--The Mandalorian--is much more refreshing than even successfully taking a character that needed fleshing through film-external sources (Jango).

26 minutes ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

Conflicting canonical sources were a thing too common in the old EU. But I'll give a whole entire comic book series, a game made for promoting Episode 2, and a novel or two more canonical weight than a throwaway line. Perhaps a bit strange, but that's just me. IDK.

Clone Wars were--for the best--preserved and finished by Disney. But with all the Jango EU stuff gone, that means his entire backstory is open to rewriting. So the throwaway line turned Jaster's greatest pupil and arguably his adopted son, a survivor of the Mandalorian Purge and the one betrayed by Monstross, into some dude with a suit. A tad demystifying.

To turn to a more positive note, making a new character--The Mandalorian--is much more refreshing than even successfully taking a character that needed fleshing through film-external sources (Jango).

I'll defer to george lucas. From wookipedia:

"The Clone Wars: Season Two DVD set, however, series director Dave Filoni explained that, according to George Lucas, the Fetts were not Mandalorians."

I just binge-watched the entire last season of the Clone Wars last night and oh man that's some good television.

Left me feeling helpless and furious at the same time.

Filoni Star Wars = Best Star Wars.

16 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

I'll defer to george lucas. From wookipedia:

"The Clone Wars: Season Two DVD set, however, series director Dave Filoni explained that, according to George Lucas, the Fetts were not Mandalorians."

That makes the retcon double-official then. Now we're entering the whole discussion of whether something is set in stone when it is published and released to the masses or if it is a living piece that grows and develops with its author even after publishing. Death of the Author is very much an interesting concept, especially when multiple storytellers/owners are involved over so much canon.

It appears, however, that we are on opposite ends of this larger spectrum. I don't think that there is a simple answer to this problem in literature and mythos in general, mainly owing to the subject-matter's inherent fictional nature that nonetheless plays a very much real role--if however varying small degrees of significance--in our lives. I shall respectfully disagree given Lucas' fondness of retcons and re-edits, often declaring that something was always one way despite evidence to the contrary (such as his back and forth stance as to how much of the Star Wars Saga were conceptualized before filming and whether there were going to be a sequel trilogy). Have an upvote.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WordOfGod

17 hours ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

That makes the retcon double-official then. Now we're entering the whole discussion of whether something is set in stone when it is published and released to the masses or if it is a living piece that grows and develops with its author even after publishing. Death of the Author is very much an interesting concept, especially when multiple storytellers/owners are involved over so much canon.

It appears, however, that we are on opposite ends of this larger spectrum. I don't think that there is a simple answer to this problem in literature and mythos in general, mainly owing to the subject-matter's inherent fictional nature that nonetheless plays a very much real role--if however varying small degrees of significance--in our lives. I shall respectfully disagree given Lucas' fondness of retcons and re-edits, often declaring that something was always one way despite evidence to the contrary (such as his back and forth stance as to how much of the Star Wars Saga were conceptualized before filming and whether there were going to be a sequel trilogy). Have an upvote.

Didn't realize i bolded stuff lol. I don't think I've heard of lucas stating the reverse anywhere. Lfl was pretty loose with the EU for a while, so it's more probable authors and or marketing people contradicted each other.

From a certain point of view, both could be right, as Mandalorian has had several meanings. Lucas could mean that Jango was not born on Mandalore, from Almec’s comment he certainly had no citizenship there. The pacifist Mandalore government would also hasten to denounce anyone taking up the ancient traditions/armor. While at the same time, Jango could be Mandalorian in ideology (or theology, pulling from the Mandalorian referring to his ideals as a religion). So Jango ends up being this wandering outcast who is trying to observe the traditional Mandalorian culture while being denied citizenship from Mandalore.

7 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:

From a certain point of view, both could be right, as Mandalorian has had several meanings. Lucas could mean that Jango was not born on Mandalore, from Almec’s comment he certainly had no citizenship there. The pacifist Mandalore government would also hasten to denounce anyone taking up the ancient traditions/armor. While at the same time, Jango could be Mandalorian in ideology (or theology, pulling from the Mandalorian referring to his ideals as a religion). So Jango ends up being this wandering outcast who is trying to observe the traditional Mandalorian culture while being denied citizenship from Mandalore.

It does ask the question: what is a Mandalorian? The character that we know largely as "the Mandalorian" to our knowledge is not from Mandalore and does not have Mandalorian heritage. He was just a foundling from the Clone Wars. Yet we, and the series, call him the "the Mandalorian".

I mean, they obviously keep changing stuff. Helmets on, helmets off, eh. I try not to worry about it much.

24 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

IHelmets on, helmets off, eh.

Has me thinking of a flipping Configuration card: Mandalorian Helmet (On/Off). Text something like extra beef when on, extra evade (visibility) when off. Pure fun, of course. 😎🍺

46 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

I mean, they obviously keep changing stuff. Helmets on, helmets off, eh. I try not to worry about it much.

I just assumed that the "helmets on" thing came from after the purge as a way to maintain race identity, potentially taking up an ancient custom at the same time.

8 minutes ago, 5050Saint said:

I just assumed that the "helmets on" thing came from after the purge as a way to maintain race identity, potentially taking up an ancient custom at the same time.

I assumed the same for the more religious stuff like "this is the way"

I wish there was a hot take to append this to right now, but I gotta just jump the gun and get it in early.

5 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

I just assumed that the "helmets on" thing came from after the purge as a way to maintain race identity, potentially taking up an ancient custom at the same time.

Same. Wondering if it was a response to Maul/Death Watch/ etc. Also assumed "the Purge" was post-Rebels as it's presumably when Moff Gideon gets the Darksaber from Bo-Katan.

Mando was found as a child, evidently during the Clone Wars. Hmmm.

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

I wish there was a hot take to append this to right now, but I gotta just jump the gun and get it in early.

I gotcha covered.
Statistically speaking Hyperspace is 19% less of an NPE than Extended. + or - 2 Standard Deviations.

33 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

I gotcha covered.

Statistically speaking Hyperspace is 19% less of an NPE than Extended. + or - 2 Standard Deviations.

Much Scientific. Very Rigor.