3 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

So that way, I can help all the new players at my local store fly the most disgusting cancer list on the planet.

S**t, should this even be a possibility?!?

I know you might just be tongue-n-cheek, but your statement can also be absolutely true.

Wow......is the game really dying?

20 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

You also have to train them to talk **** like Counterstrike 12 year olds.

Great idea, my 8 year old keeps asking to go to a tournament this will be his list.

18 minutes ago, clanofwolves said:

S**t, should this even be a possibility?!?

I know you might just be tongue-n-cheek, but your statement can also be absolutely true.

Wow......is the game really dying?

Its NOT. I wont let it happen.

I have been holding Silencer, Whisper, Vader, Quickdraw, Sabacc, and Gunboat training classes at my store. Basically increase the total # of die hard Imperial players and your meta immediatly becomes more fun as nearly every game can turn into Imperial Civil Wars.

Overtime I have found that is the best way to protect your meta along with teaching everyone how to use RAC/Lo + Ace and get them to commit to bringing it every week as back up insurance.

Its remarkably effective at forcing 2 ship turret lists out of the local scene and increasing overall ship totals. As ship counts increase the fun follows.

Produces a natural flow of meta adjustments and its all thanks to the great "balancer" Kylo Ren crew.

Or wait...yea guess your right...what have I done...

16 minutes ago, clanofwolves said:

S**t, should this even be a possibility?!?

I know you might just be tongue-n-cheek, but your statement can also be absolutely true.

Wow......is the game really dying?

No. Even as he attempts to do this, I am flying the counter culture, and wholesome X-wings and stuff. Plus, we can just bust this out for tourneys to convince everyone that we hate X-wing and don't have fun as step one of our four step plan to win a regional.

1 minute ago, Boom Owl said:

Its NOT. I wont let it happen.

I have been holding Silencer, Whisper, Vader, Quickdraw, Sabacc, and Gunboat training classes at my store.

Overtime I have found that is the best way to protect your meta along with teaching everyone how to use RAC/Lo + Ace and get them to commit to bringing it every week as back up insurance.

Its remarkably effective at forcing 2 ship turret lists out of the local scene and increasing overall ship totals. As ship counts increase the fun follows.

Produces a natural flow of meta adjustments and its all thanks to the great "balancer" Kylo Ren crew.

Or wait...yea guess your right...what have I done...

I mean, I keep trying to teach people how to use Kylencer and other aces but instead I make their opponent sad and never want to play X-wing again. turns out only doing two damage to my list feels bad.

One of my local metas was (still mostly is) almost entirely imperial aces and defenders. The training simulation/civil war games are the best.

Jesus, we really are just Terran players.

PROTOSS DOESN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT DEFENDERS ADVANTAGE WARP IN IS STUPID (jokes on them, we were right, it was stupid)

ZERG PLAYERS AREN'T EVEN PLAYING THE GAME YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE DRONES UNTIL I COMMIT TO ATTACKING AND ALWAYS COMING OUT AHEAD (they can and did do that)

2/2 for Terran players being correct and everyone else being scum, good thing the skill cap was so high for Terran that our best players won anyways E Z

35 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Is it ok to use an evil list for a good cause?

Define "good cause."

35 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Why this matters is that the other day we were talking about how it's weird when all kinds of people we've never seen before bus in from a different state to come dominate our friendly little store champs. Being the hicks that we are out here in Colorado, we must defend our turf from these outsiders. Is it ok if I start showing all the 12-year-olds who play X-Wing at my LGS how to fly Kanan/Fenn so that we can make sure that this is the most unfriendly store tourney imaginable for any outsiders?

So uh... funny story. I was looking for a shop to play at in May when I travel to Colorado... I think I'll just smash my ships with a hammer now to save myself the pain later.

I like Empire and Protoss

If any new players ask what to take to a tournament the best answer really is ghost fenn until further notice.

31 minutes ago, clanofwolves said:

S**t, should this even be a possibility?!?

I know you might just be tongue-n-cheek, but your statement can also be absolutely true.

Wow......is the game really dying?

Yeah, It was a joke. Sort of. But I do still really want to defend my turf.

To be absolutely real here though, I do actually own nine GUNBOATS. So I'll just teach literally everyone how to fly my triple HLC Rho build. I don't think I own nine copies of Crackshot and Flechette Cannon though, sadly. I also own three TIE/SFs so maybe I'll just learn how to fly Quickdraw/Nu/Nu/Nu and teach two other noobs how to do that too. We're gonna have to use Concussion Missiles though, 'cause I only own two copies of Guns for Hire.

3 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

So uh... funny story. I was looking for a shop to play at in May when I travel to Colorado... I think I'll just smash my ships with a hammer now to save myself the pain later.

We're actually pretty friendly here in Northern Colorado, we just have a really dry sense of humor. Come visit us sometime and I'll share all my awful alt-arts that I printed on my mom's 10-year-old home printer!

And you can appreciate our weird local meta that, despite all my jokes about Kanan/Fenn, actually seems to consist of PTL/BB8 Poe, Kylo, Vader, tons of TIE Defenders, brobots, and some random Jabba and Z-95 based scum jank.

41 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

If Asajj were PS9, she would be ruinously powerful.

Why? I think she would be slightly more powerful, sure, simply by dint of PS-killing more stuff. But "ruinously powerful"? Everything Asajj does is basically PS-neutral, except moving (no repositioning, unless you pay for Engine Upgrade) and shooting.

Asajj's ability is powerful, but if she were, for example, PS 9 for +3 or +4 points? I think she's actually net less powerful.

But I could be missing something.

10 minutes ago, Jeff Wilder said:

Why? I think she would be slightly more powerful, sure, simply by dint of PS-killing more stuff. But "ruinously powerful"? Everything Asajj does is basically PS-neutral, except moving (no repositioning, unless you pay for Engine Upgrade) and shooting.

Asajj's ability is powerful, but if she were, for example, PS 9 for +3 or +4 points? I think she's actually net less powerful.

But I could be missing something.

I think PS9 PTL Boosting Asajj would be crazy-good, the Shadowcaster title is much better as more ships can benefit from the tractor and more ships can have their shot taken away by PS kills or being thrown onto a rock. You also know more certainly where to put your mobile arc for maximum effect, for the few ships maneuverable enough to avoid the optimally placed arc on current Asajj.

17 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

We're actually pretty friendly here in Northern Colorado, we just have a really dry sense of humor. Come visit us sometime and I'll share all my awful alt-arts that I printed on my mom's 10-year-old home printer!

If you wantbthem to be less awful, PM me.

Or if you were saying the art is awful, Spot gloss cards with art drawn by children/drunks is something I was looking into having made and given out at Hoth.

Also an identical spot gloss miranda ti the $100+ FFG one, but the glossed bits are just a giant text that says "Cancer"

Just in case Chris tries anything funny on the show tonight.....

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2 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

Snapshot really suffers from being an EPT, which are generally on higher PS ships. It‘s (partially) why Awings are great with them. The other part is two EPTs of course.

“unfortunately“, no ship that has any form of synergy with snapshot has a system slot - or enhanced scopes would become a thing.

Imagine Turr Phenir with snapshot! There are several TIEs with extra something. But they are all PS6-8

Corran Horn Snap Shot R3-A2! 3 stress a turn!

And then fewer stress the next turn...

2 hours ago, Biophysical said:

Well, uh, Blackout arguably has a better ability than Kylo. Low has a better ability than Wulf. So there's that. Those are the only examples I can think of.

That’s totally true, as well as asajj being straight up better than Ketsu in nearly every instance (goodness can you imagine a higher PS Asajj???!).

But then it’s like... they forgot? And released Fenn? It just... I don’t know. I don’t know what to think.

4 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Its the X-Wing Git Gud Paradox. Fairly well documented on JSTOR.

Last two months of the KraytKast:

"One way you could Git Gud would be to fly a good list..."

"Oh God, not that good! Stahp the pain! Haaalp!"

"One way you probably suck is that you fly a good list..."

1 hour ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

If you wantbthem to be less awful, PM me.

Or if you were saying the art is awful, Spot gloss cards with art drawn by children/drunks is something I was looking into having made and given out at Hoth.

Also an identical spot gloss miranda ti the $100+ FFG one, but the glossed bits are just a giant text that says "Cancer"

Thanks! No, I've used makeplayingcards to print them before. You're the guy who took some to a European Championship right? I think I asked you before and you directed me there. So thanks again for that! It's the art that's bad. This is my Rho Squadron Vet:

Just now, Kieransi said:

Thanks! No, I've used makeplayingcards to print them before. You're the guy who took some to a European Championship right? I think I asked you before and you directed me there. So thanks again for that! It's the art that's bad. This is my Rho Squadron Vet:

I am not that guy. I'm the dude who made a bunch of the Krayt Cup 3 stuff like All-text Fenn Rau.

Off-topic: I've been playing against Rebel regen for as long as I've been playing the game. Regen has always been my boogieman and I thought I had gotten used to how to deal with it over time. Last night I played against a standard regen Poe, a ship I've played against dozens of times before. I killed his partner and proceeded to watch Poe clean up enough of my ships to win on pts at time. I got so frustrated after that game in a way I haven't felt in a long time. I don't know why. Ghost/Fenn has never had that effect on me, as cheesy as it is. It's gotten to the point that I'm only trying to build lists with how to beat regen in mind. I'm not going down the RAClo rabbit hole again. I've already done that and while I had a great run with it at Crossroads, I don't want to fly RAC again. It wasn't that fun. I may sound nuts, but I don't think I'm ever going to fly turrets again. Or bombs, or regen. The most fun I've ever had playing X-wing was at 2017 Worlds where I had a great run, going 7-2 flying three small base arced ships (QD/OL/Vessery). No regen, no AT, no secondary weapons, only single reposition...but it was fun. I want to believe that I can do the same thing this year but I'm just not sure. I don't really know what the point of this post was. I guess I'm feeling a little lost.

You hate regen? You like arced ships?

Step right up and take a look in the direction of a TIE/D, my friend. Ion Cannons do very bad things to regenerating ships. They can't flee effectively, and the Ion move is white, so R2D2 doesn't work. An Ion hit is like 2 damage against Poe.

1 minute ago, defkhan1 said:

Off-topic: I've been playing against Rebel regen for as long as I've been playing the game. Regen has always been my boogieman and I thought I had gotten used to how to deal with it over time. Last night I played against a standard regen Poe, a ship I've played against dozens of times before. I killed his partner and proceeded to watch Poe clean up enough of my ships to win on pts at time. I got so frustrated after that game in a way I haven't felt in a long time. I don't know why. Ghost/Fenn has never had that effect on me, as cheesy as it is. It's gotten to the point that I'm only trying to build lists with how to beat regen in mind. I'm not going down the RAClo rabbit hole again. I've already done that and while I had a great run with it at Crossroads, I don't want to fly RAC again. It wasn't that fun. I may sound nuts, but I don't think I'm ever going to fly turrets again. Or bombs, or regen. The most fun I've ever had playing X-wing was at 2017 Worlds where I had a great run flying three small base arced ships (QD/OL/Vessery). No regen, no AT, only single reposition...but it was fun. I want to believe that I can do the same thing this year but I'm just not sure.

3 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

You hate regen? You like arced ships?

Step right up and take a look in the direction of a TIE/D, my friend. Ion Cannons do very bad things to regenerating ships. They can't flee effectively, and the Ion move is white, so R2D2 doesn't work. An Ion hit is like 2 damage against Poe.

Join us.... Join us...

11 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

You hate regen? You like arced ships?

I can't help @Biophysical with my but-in, sorry. Personally, I don't mind regen as long as it has a limit, R2 should be unlimited on Luke, but max out on original shield values on other pilots/ships. Miranda is absolutely nuts and should be tied into using her main guns and should again be limited use in total number. Arced ships I love, and I think turrets need a serious pull-back in order to save the game; I think in the spirit of this thread, @Brunas promotes this via Krayts podcasts. Thankfully the most recent Waves have had arced ships, maybe we'll get a break in an errata or a real, usable anti-turret --let's just say it, TLT-- weapon beyond Fett crew.

Again, sorry, I'll grab my tea....carry on mates.

56 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:

Last two months of the KraytKast:

"One way you could Git Gud would be to fly a good list..."

"Oh God, not that good! Stahp the pain! Haaalp!"

"One way you probably suck is that you fly a good list..."

Most unfortunate timing ever, lmao

You should play the best things you enjoy, not necessarily your favorite stuff! <Everything good immediately devolves into horrifically unfun nonsense>

39 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

I am not that guy. I'm the dude who made a bunch of the Krayt Cup 3 stuff like All-text Fenn Rau.

Ah, that's right. I find this forum's lack of choices for avatars disturbing.