14 minutes ago, jagsba said:

lol, yup, that was me.

sorry, what I meant was, you were vastly inflating my performance in the game. you played fine, I messed up the engage and it snowballed from there.

but yeah, i had the same experience, my next two games were not close, and it wasn't me flying better so much as the nantex bullying.

A classic case of “tone is hard on the internet.” I was legit concerned that maybe I had completely mis-read the game 🤣

Nice to have met you, hopefully we get more games in the future!

To everyone else - we brought similar-ish Chertek squads and bullied the other 5-6 players into first and second place. Low turnout, anecdotal, etc., but we both came away with similar impressions.

Side note on Nantex counters - I will legitimately be considering Dash Rendar and debris fields.

10 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

Side note on Nantex counters - I will legitimately be considering Dash Rendar and debris fields.

"you tractor onto a debris cloud and the game breaks so you have to concede" is a legitimate strategy

2 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

Oh gods. Sense.

Wish there was a cheaper force user, I think only Dooku and Maul are the force users for Seps?

Would you use Dooku? I think he's taking to much fire to make use of his ability with Gonk much.

And what else would you put in for the 30 point hole? DBS404?

This guy needs a nickname. The R0-1 guy.

4-0 so far in practice games. Burned down 4 ship rebel and Quad T-70s. Close game with regen jedi. Semi-close game with Lumi, 2 Arcs, Ion Broadside (semi-close cause lumi rolled double natty evades three times in a row, or else game would not have been close, lol). I like Maul for higher PS to grab a lock, and then if I whiff my tractor shot, I just say "**** it" Spend two force and fire my primary with lock + 1 force.

Darth Maul (67)
Sense (5)
Tractor Beam (2)

Trade Federation Drone (19)

Trade Federation Drone (19)

Trade Federation Drone (19)

Trade Federation Drone (19)

Chertek (39)
Crack Shot (1)
Ensnare (10)
Total: 200

19 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

Side note on Nantex counters - I will legitimately be considering Dash Rendar and debris fields.

debris helps with the 'you don't get to shoot' part of the nantex, but not much else.

10 minutes ago, Brunas said:

the game breaks

Do tell? I thought Dash's ability was pretty clear in this regard...

24 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

Side note on Nantex counters - I will legitimately be considering Dash Rendar and debris fields.

Is this what the Nantex has brought us to? Miranda/Dash in 20-****ing-19?

14 minutes ago, wurms said:

4-0 so far in practice games. Burned down 4 ship rebel and Quad T-70s. Close game with regen jedi. Semi-close game with Lumi, 2 Arcs, Ion Broadside (semi-close cause lumi rolled double natty evades three times in a row, or else game would not have been close, lol). I like Maul for higher PS to grab a lock, and then if I whiff my tractor shot, I just say "**** it" Spend two force and fire my primary with lock + 1 force.

Darth Maul (67)
Sense (5)
Tractor Beam (2)

Trade Federation Drone (19)

Trade Federation Drone (19)

Trade Federation Drone (19)

Trade Federation Drone (19)

Chertek (39)
Crack Shot (1)
Ensnare (10)
Total: 200

Do you ever really want to use tractor with maul ? I found I didn’t.

Note you’re spending 2 force for that post tractor shot it’s pretty enormous

Would 3 grappling be better? I use up to 3 grapples cuz the rest are better free flying and don’t end up on rocks often

3 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Is this what the Nantex has brought us to? Miranda/Dash in 20-****ing-19?

People have already highly considered Han w/ Luke Gunner so yeah, that's what i6 Ensnare is doing....

Number 1 pilot on metawing *happy droid tears*

5 minutes ago, RStan said:

People have already highly considered Han w/ Luke Gunner so yeah, that's what i6 Ensnare is doing....

And real 15-23 pt bids...

We were on the verge of greatness. Wave 2 Xwing was so amazing!

Wave 3 Jedi were already dumb. Wave 4 Finn was just as bad, but at least just a jouster - and aces got just more dominant. But now with wave 5 it feels really bad.

It's just my feelings, but I played a ton online during wave 2 and still quite a bit in wave 3. wave 4 was limited to 3 big events. But now... anyway, perfect time for a break until Vonreg arrives. Totally wholesome, for sure!

Just now, GreenDragoon said:

We were on the verge of greatness. Wave 2 Xwing was so amazing!

Wave 3 Jedi were already dumb. Wave 4 Finn was just as bad, but at least just a jouster - and aces got just more dominant. But now with wave 5 it feels really bad.

It's just my feelings, but I played a ton online during wave 2 and still quite a bit in wave 3. wave 4 was limited to 3 big events. But now... anyway, perfect time for a break until Vonreg arrives. Totally wholesome, for sure!

Sun Fac: WE STAND HERE AMID MY ACHIEVEMENT! NOT YOURS!

48 minutes ago, jagsba said:

debris helps with the 'you don't get to shoot' part of the nantex, but not much else.

That’s not counter-Nantex, that’s counter-grappling struts. Debris hits the sweet spot of “Screw you, Jedi” and “suck it, droids”.

Just now, PaulRuddSays said:

That’s not counter-Nantex, that’s counter-grappling struts. Debris hits the sweet spot of “Screw you, Jedi” and “suck it, droids”.

Droids can land on debris

2 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

Droids can land on debris

You’re right, thanks. Why don’t more droid players bring debris?

1 minute ago, PaulRuddSays said:

You’re right, thanks. Why don’t more droid players bring debris?

I don't know. With a Nantex and struts you want rocks. Prior to Nantex, don't know. I always went debris just for Jedi.

8 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

You’re right, thanks. Why don’t more droid players bring debris?

Possibly the size of the obstacle and the greater chance for damage from the obstacle on an opponent compared to debris.

9 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

You’re right, thanks. Why don’t more droid players bring debris?

its my default for a reason

5 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Do you ever really want to use tractor with maul ? I found I didn’t.

All the time. Gives chertek rerolls without having to tractor himself. Can roll ships range 1 in cherteks arc, or range 1 of my vultures. Can tractor medium and large ships on rocks denying shots. Even a whiff tractorshot like 1 hit and 2 blanks can force a ship like Broadside to spend his focus so he doesnt get rolled onto a rock or out of range 2 for his ion cannon. Early in the game, one tractor shot is worth more than 1 or 2dmg.

Two vultures with Calcs at range 2 vs agility 2 ship with focus = .99 expected hits.

Tractor that 2 agility ship into range 1 and their damage output goes to 2.99.

4 hours ago, Ablazoned said:

Do tell? I thought Dash's ability was pretty clear in this regard...

Err no, I mean if the nantex tractors itself onto debris, not dash.

3 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

But now... anyway, perfect time for a break until Vonreg arrives. Totally wholesome, for sure!

He definitely feels wholesome after Waves 3, 4 & 5. No Regen or Tractor shenanigans, just an almost pure acey ship that feel behind the times compared to the current meta.

If the Nantex remains unchanged, Vonreg and the Tie/ba won't see too much play as it'll be suppressed by it. Oh look you got aggressive and strained yourself to get a powerful shot off, here have a tractor and enjoy only rolling 1 green against my first shot.

3 hours ago, PaulRuddSays said:

You’re right, thanks. Why don’t more droid players bring debris?

I personally usually bring 2 rocks and 1 debris. Most of it is just trying to bring the three largest obstacles I can, but I also like that if my opponent clips a rock, he can’t shoot me; struts mean I don’t have that same problem.

All this Nantex talk is making me want to play Dash.

"Shenanigans this, Bugs!!"

23 minutes ago, Deffly said:

He definitely feels wholesome after Waves 3, 4 & 5. No Regen or Tractor shenanigans, just an almost pure acey ship that feel behind the times compared to the current meta.

If the Nantex remains unchanged, Vonreg and the Tie/ba won't see too much play as it'll be suppressed by it. Oh look you got aggressive and strained yourself to get a powerful shot off, here have a tractor and enjoy only rolling 1 green against my first shot.

Oops, first shot was Sun Fac after he tractored you into his bullseye at R1. Oh hey, Predator + focus was a full string...don't bother rolling dice Vonreg.