3 minutes ago, wurms said:

Corran with r4 astro would not mind a calc and coordinated evade every round seeing as his linked actions are tied to lock action

Yes of course!

6 hours ago, Managarmr said:

The Botbus idea sounds really neat. Rebel ships are however not really blessed with blues, so not easy to clear the K2 stress (apart from the named B-wings who can use it; or maybe Nien carriers?). The ship with most blues, Rz1, has no true aces, they are blockers and ace support. Curious where this is going to end up.

This is why the Botbus looks really good to me. It's cheap enough that it'll fit into a 4 or 5 ship list. With 4 or 5 ships, odds are someone is going to be doing a blue move anyhow. In a 2 or 3 ship list, you're less likely to have a good Kaytoo target each turn.

This is a bad list, right? Kullbee is just too expensive and should be, like, Ten Nunb or Dutch Vander. Edrio might be too cute, but when he's able to be Focus/Focus/Lock with someone else being Calc/Lock... I feel like there's some good version of this list.

• AP-5 (K2-SO) 40
• Kullbee Sperado (Crack Shot, R4, foils) 49
• Edrio Two-Tubes (foils) 43
• Lieutenant Blount (Crack Shot) 31
• Jake Farrell (Crack Shot) 37

imo IntimidationArvel > Jake

Why are u doing so much fanta-xwing with 40 pts bot bus when we have 46 pts K2 pilot?

U r ending up with a fluffy 4-5 ships list with 2 dice guns when u could have a full 3 dice guns list with same tricks but improved jousting potential and beef....

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

This is a bad list, right? Kullbee is just too expensive and should be, like, Ten Nunb or Dutch Vander. Edrio might be too cute, but when he's able to be Focus/Focus/Lock with someone else being Calc/Lock... I feel like there's some good version of this list.

• AP-5 (K2-SO) 40
• Kullbee Sperado (Crack Shot, R4, foils) 49
• Edrio Two-Tubes (foils) 43
• Lieutenant Blount (Crack Shot) 31
• Jake Farrell (Crack Shot) 37

If going for the 5 ship, Blount is always a great starting point and either Jake or Intimidation Arvel. I'm inclined to favor Arvel in the 5 ship especially when we already have the Bot Bus as the main support piece. I've felt when building that Jake and Bot Bus is a bit heavy on the support side, but I could be wrong, especially in 5 ship when between Bot Bus and Jake, 3 ships can get double modded. I think Jek Porkins is actually the go to XWing around that mid 40s cost XWing. His ability is actually pretty good to still get double mods on 4k or 3talon turns to dump his stress prior to be coordinated from AP-5 or passed a focus from Jake. I can see Kullbee taking advantage of focus boost and still getting his wings opened which still seems good.

1 hour ago, _iaco_ said:

Why are u doing so much fanta-xwing with 40 pts bot bus when we have 46 pts K2 pilot?

U r ending up with a fluffy 4-5 ships list with 2 dice guns when u could have a full 3 dice guns list with same tricks but improved jousting potential and beef....

Because I don't think K-2SO U-Wing is that great?

He's a U-Wing who can get an easy calculate token, but he's stuck on blue moves, which is bad for a U-Wing. If you want to do his red stop, you can't have done coordinate the turn before, which means he was just a worse generic that turn, since he can't Focus. I guess Kaytoo is worth the three points over a generic is worth, but adding the other 5 to go for Cassian is also probably amazing.

But to be sure, it's a good list to run Ten and Braylen, support ship of choice (U-Wing or such), and the best 4th ship you can afford.

But it's also a known quantity. There's nothing to think about, and right now, I'm thinking about X-Wing more than playing X-Wing.

21 minutes ago, RStan said:

If going for the 5 ship, Blount is always a great starting point and either Jake or Intimidation Arvel. I'm inclined to favor Arvel in the 5 ship especially when we already have the Bot Bus as the main support piece. I've felt when building that Jake and Bot Bus is a bit heavy on the support side, but I could be wrong, especially in 5 ship when between Bot Bus and Jake, 3 ships can get double modded. I think Jek Porkins is actually the go to XWing around that mid 40s cost XWing. His ability is actually pretty good to still get double mods on 4k or 3talon turns to dump his stress prior to be coordinated from AP-5 or passed a focus from Jake. I can see Kullbee taking advantage of focus boost and still getting his wings opened which still seems good.

I wonder if there's space for Zeb. Dude is a lot of gun for the price.

• Botbus 40
• Zeb 32
• Blount 30
• Jek 45 (or Edrio to taste)
• Dutch Vander with Proton Torpedoes is a good build and at 53 points can fit into any Rebel squad.

Between AP-5 handing out two tokens and Dutch giving someone a Lock, that's a lot of double-mod attacks, potentially with only AP-5 at 2-dice.

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14 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

imo IntimidationArvel > Jake

If the other ships in your list are at i4 or higher, jake, i4 or lower, arvel

I'm kind of impressed that with evidence that there's currently absolutely no moderation of any kind, things are pretty normal. I'd have expected everything to be on fire from spam, vitriol, etc...

7 minutes ago, Brunas said:

I'm kind of impressed that with evidence that there's currently absolutely no moderation of any kind, things are pretty normal. I'd have expected everything to be on fire from spam, vitriol, etc...

You're just not looking in the right places.

DO NOT GO LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT PLACES.

12 minutes ago, gennataos said:

You're just not looking in the right places.

DO NOT GO LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT PLACES.

I mean there's like one or two threads about eugenics, and the rest is pretty much your normal "hey come compliment my bad list". That's a pretty good batting average for unmoderated forums!

1 minute ago, Brunas said:

I mean there's like one or two threads about eugenics, and the rest is pretty much your normal "hey come compliment my bad list". That's a pretty good batting average for unmoderated forums!

Speaking of which, come build Vennie lists with me!

4 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Speaking of which, come build Vennie lists with me!

No!

Fite me Friday(I guess?): the U-wing should have stayed in hyperspace.

22 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Fite me Friday(I guess?): the U-wing should have stayed in hyperspace.

Fair enough, so long as the Upsilon remained as well.

5 minutes ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

Fair enough, so long as the Upsilon remained as well.

Why do you hate hyperspace?!

29 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Fite me Friday(I guess?): the U-wing should have stayed in hyperspace.

I'll bight* No it shouldn't have.

We all know how good the U-Wing is when used properly. It's a strong centerpoint to Rebel Beef, and UUUU is a good enough list.

So it should have gone, as well as the Falcon.

We should have had the Ghost and the Sheathipede, plus XYAB. Nobody has figured out how to use the Ghost or Sheathipede properly over time. There are some good ideas out there, but nothing that's seen a tonne of play. Hyperspace having Ghost + Phantom would have been novel and interesting, and would force Rebel players in a new direction.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bight_(geography)

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

I'll bight* No it shouldn't have.

We all know how good the U-Wing is when used properly. It's a strong centerpoint to Rebel Beef, and UUUU is a good enough list.

So it should have gone, as well as the Falcon.

We should have had the Ghost and the Sheathipede, plus XYAB. Nobody has figured out how to use the Ghost or Sheathipede properly over time. There are some good ideas out there, but nothing that's seen a tonne of play. Hyperspace having Ghost + Phantom would have been novel and interesting, and would force Rebel players in a new direction.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bight_(geography)

Fair point, but why not just axe the generics and Cassian Pilot? With Biggs and wedge also being Knocked out, the traditional beef wasn’t going to be valid anyway.

(I just want to field K-2SO Pilot without feelsbadman because Ks “not hyperspace legal”.)

I agree with everything about the Ghost/sheathipede vs Falcon though.

The first time I ever slept through multiple, let alone 3, alarms. ****, and why? I guess I'm done for online events.

14 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Fair point, but why not just axe the generics and Cassian Pilot? With Biggs and wedge also being Knocked out, the traditional beef wasn’t going to be valid anyway.

(I just want to field K-2SO Pilot without feelsbadman because Ks “not hyperspace legal”.)

I agree with everything about the Ghost/sheathipede vs Falcon though.

I'd be happy with that.

The main benefit of Hyperspace, as I see it, is to eliminate a ship which, while not overpowered and in need of a nerf, is still overplayed and ubiquitous. Cassian and generic U-Wings don't really need nerfs, but I'm glad to be rid of them.

11 hours ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

The first time I ever slept through multiple, let alone 3, alarms. ****, and why? I guess I'm done for online events.

same team, the alarm is by far the hardest opponent to deal with for xwing events

So now that SOTL has double confirmed the mods are gone, what do y'all wanna do in the anarchy?

8 minutes ago, Mattman7306 said:

So now that SOTL has double confirmed the mods are gone, what do y'all wanna do in the anarchy?

Herald the return of the large base meta?

Well, I put a random squad in YASB, got something out, and modified it to my interests by changing pilots+upgrades to be better.

Han Solo (80)
Ship total: 80 Half Points: 40 Threshold: 7

Jake Farrell (36)
Ship total: 36 Half Points: 18 Threshold: 2

Lando Calrissian (79)
Nien Nunb (5)

Ship total: 84 Half Points: 42 Threshold: 7


Total: 200

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0: https://raithos.github.io/?f=Rebel Alliance&d=v8ZhZ200Z42XWWWWWWWY50XWWY43XWWWW52WWW&sn=Random Squad&obs=

Behold the double saucer doom machine, with Jake because he fits. The YTs aren't totally tricked out, but that's a lot of health and I think that they should be decent enough as they are.

39 minutes ago, Mattman7306 said:

So now that SOTL has double confirmed the mods are gone, what do y'all wanna do in the anarchy?

hey we can go as off topic as we want!

Ania Solo is best girl fight me