Big mood. So big in fact that I might risk the havoc it'll wreck on me and have it for dinner.

Soooooo according to this: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/45724/asmodee-reveals-june-release-plans

there are 7 X-Wing SKUs to be released in June? The LAAT and HMP and Xi shuttle were due out somewhere in here, but does anyone have any insight into what other four products might be coming?

1 minute ago, SpiderMana said:

Soooooo according to this: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/45724/asmodee-reveals-june-release-plans

there are 7 X-Wing SKUs to be released in June? The LAAT and HMP and Xi shuttle were due out somewhere in here, but does anyone have any insight into what other four products might be coming?

Could be some of those other SKUs that were posted recently, but its surprising they haven't announced them yet. Eta-2, V-Wing, Jango, and Trifighter.

There were a bunch on there though so it could be some of the others and not those new releases.

@SpiderMana

@Vector Strike has a thread on a possible leak involving the sku's

Might be worth a look. 🙂

11 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

@SpiderMana

@Vector Strike has a thread on a possible leak involving the sku's

Might be worth a look.

🙂

Ah, thanks! I think I saw that briefly but I really haven’t been on the X-Wing forums much. Or played any X-Wing lately. But I’m pumped for the gunships! 😅

10 hours ago, SpiderMana said:

But I’m pumped for the gunships! 😅

All you other droids with your pumped-up kicks better run, better run, faster than my LAAT.

53 minutes ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

All you other droids with your pumped-up kicks better run, better run, faster than my LAAT.

Oh, I meant the Republic gunships too 😉

In a time full of the worst forum content, here's my hot take of the day:

2.0 X-Wing between 7 factions, 2 formats, point changes every 6 months and content addition every 3-4 months does not have enough data for responsible data analysis.

40 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

In a time full of the worst forum content, here's my hot take of the day:

2.0 X-Wing between 7 factions, 2 formats, point changes every 6 months and content addition every 3-4 months does not have enough data for responsible data analysis.

same

team

1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:

In a time full of the worst forum content, here's my hot take of the day:

2.0 X-Wing between 7 factions, 2 formats, point changes every 6 months and content addition every 3-4 months does not have enough data for responsible data analysis.

Which is why I'm ecstatic that metawing's last import was 2 months ago despite the occasional online tourney.

1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:

In a time full of the worst forum content, here's my hot take of the day:

2.0 X-Wing between 7 factions, 2 formats, point changes every 6 months and content addition every 3-4 months does not have enough data for responsible data analysis.

Agreed.

I also feel the same way about the new Hyperspace in general. It seems like there are consistent voices calling for it to be the primary way to play, yet we have had only one rotation to draw experiences from. A limited format such as the new Hyperspace has potential to differ wildly from one season to the next. Until we’ve got more data as to how well it maintains balance, I am extremely hesitant to put all our eggs into that basket, along with other concerns.

2 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

In a time full of the worst forum content, here's my hot take of the day:

2.0 X-Wing between 7 factions, 2 formats, point changes every 6 months and content addition every 3-4 months does not have enough data for responsible data analysis.

I don't want responsible data analysis.

I want chaos metas.

36 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

I don't want responsible data analysis.

ok

I liked digging through the data - you don't have to. I do like chaos meta most to play, but the two are not mutually exclusive

K2SO has made Dash + Precog Luke almost decent.

1 hour ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

K2SO has made Dash + Precog Luke almost decent.

why?

1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:

why?

I assume because k-2so is a cheaper force point for dash, while outrider mitigates the stress.

But I don’t want to play it or against it, so I’m not going to think about it harder than that.

Hm, I guess I'm too sold on perceptive+bistan. He needs that second attack as far as I'm concerned, especially in a meta with so many ships per list. And perceptive is the same cost as K2SO

I don't know if I'd ever be able to articulate why I play the "good guys" as well as pointing the last part of Mandalorian Gallery Ep2.

Perceptive + Bistan = 22 pt, but locks you into the focus action. Other actions/actually double modding a shot require a support ship as the friend. Works with Lando, but then again, that combo can restrict list-building (IIRC, no title).

Trickshot + Kanan = 16 pt. Synergizes with the title, opens up the action, can double mod. Quality over quantity, especially since Dash wants to trade shots only once per turn. But still too expensive for the Luke I run him with.

Trickshot + K2SO = only 12 pt. Ditch the stress from a blue or running over an obstacle (so can ditch 2 stress in the right situation). Although it better synergizes with the title, it's not as good as Kanan. However, you can now fit a Precog generic R2 Spare Parts Luke. 2 hard-hitters, can tank or bug out, and can close the game on their own. Why Spare Parts instead of no mod and Kanan? Mini-debris can offer Trickshot, stress enemy ships, break low-init rocks, trigger Outrider to ditch a token, etc.

Only played 5 games with it and love it already.

I'd have to try it. The reason I prefer bistan is more based on games with Rey. Dash is even more expensive, and his 4dice gun with low modification really benefits from additional shots.

I've been looking at utilizing K2SO, but not on the falcon or outrider. It's obvious on Lando and the Dash Outrider combo is another option, but I'm just not interested in building anything like that. I do think there's list out there that can take advantage of AP5 with K2SO (Bot Bus) which is 40 pts of amazing support between giving out calc from K2SO and coordinating to a ship even if they're stressed. Either coordinating the same or different ship than the one who got the K2SO calc, both options are great.

All I know is, if it's me flying him, Kaytoo Dash is going to stink, because it's going to take a tonne of work to clear that stress with Outrider. I find Dash's white moves and barrel rolls far to useful to give up Kanan. But then again, I'm someone who's never had the knack of Trick Shot. Trick Shot and Outrider, I can't seem to get them to work well enough.

I love my Lone Wolf/Kanan/Bistan. Mobility when I need it. Passive Mods when I need it. Double Tap when I can safely use it.

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The probably-bad-but-I-love-it-anyhow Kaytoo I've flown some is on Norra Wexly ARC along with Luke and Wedge. Norra now becomes a threat, with Lock/Calc if left alone, but still a pain to bring down if she's into Range 1. Also, if she wants to pull a red or white move, there's probably someone else who wants a Calculate (Wedge likes bonus mods), and is safe to take a blue move. That's a big thing for Kaytoo, IMHO. Being limited to blue moves can be bad, but when you've got the option to toss that token to someone else (@RStan 's "Bot Bus" looks really sweet), I think that really helps leverage Kaytoo over the entirety of a list.

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A lot of it just comes down to the Force probably being just so much easier for someone like Dash or Lando (also, I don't like how Kaytoo essentially locks you out of the Red Boost action, since one strength of Lando is he's otherwise fine with Red Boosts). To be sure, with any of these builds there will be situations where Kaytoo is better. Under optimal conditions, the full focus of PerCo is way better than Kanan or Kaytoo. But Kanan is just easier. He lets you dial in anything, bump, fly over obstacles, take any action you want. That reliability and flexibility goes a long way.

@theBitterFig can confirm, "Bot Bus" is pretty good for 40 pts. It's honestly about finding pieces that can benefit the most from it. The support flexibility is really high with AP5 w/ K2SO. Options to give calc to ship and coordinate same ship for many tokens for ship OR spread the love between two ships OR take calc for yourself while still coordinating other ship OR take calc for yourself and Jam opposing ship. I'm gonna be spending time finding out where this is best used for a bit....

1 hour ago, RStan said:

@theBitterFig can confirm, "Bot Bus" is pretty good for 40 pts. It's honestly about finding pieces that can benefit the most from it. The support flexibility is really high with AP5 w/ K2SO. Options to give calc to ship and coordinate same ship for many tokens for ship OR spread the love between two ships OR take calc for yourself while still coordinating other ship OR take calc for yourself and Jam opposing ship. I'm gonna be spending time finding out where this is best used for a bit....

The Botbus idea sounds really neat. Rebel ships are however not really blessed with blues, so not easy to clear the K2 stress (apart from the named B-wings who can use it; or maybe Nien carriers?). The ship with most blues, Rz1, has no true aces, they are blockers and ace support. Curious where this is going to end up.

2 hours ago, Managarmr said:

The Botbus idea sounds really neat. Rebel ships are however not really blessed with blues, so not easy to clear the K2 stress (apart from the named B-wings who can use it; or maybe Nien carriers?). The ship with most blues, Rz1, has no true aces, they are blockers and ace support. Curious where this is going to end up.

Corran with r4 astro would not mind a calc and coordinated evade every round seeing as his linked actions are tied to lock action