I mean... neither are very good.

18 hours ago, gennataos said:

Also, I think it's...odd...that FennFangFangFang is such a thing, but PoeXXX isn't.

Maybe because the best build (BB Astro's) isn't in hyperspace?

18 hours ago, gennataos said:

Something which I think is cool about PoeXXX is I feel you can trade him if it's a good trade,

That was my takeaway from watching your games at Missouriclorian II. I saw you trade Poe for what I think was Soontir and some damage on a Lambda, and I thought, "This isn't bad at all, he's still got 3 decently maneuverable 3 die 7 health ships left."

4 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

I know I don't, but I know that if everything becomes something similar to that, I will get bored. Like when everything was 4 Phantoms or Rebel Beef, I got bored.

ships that can move sideways or just not move, and ships that can kturn without consequences and force unwinnable trades with initiative, are ignoring the fundamentally difficult aspects of decision-making that 5X bases games are built around

5 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

The games are also a bit more frustrating because dice gain a comparatively larger impact. It is unfair if the underdog wins

this is implicit pro-force propaganda and I'm not about to let it slip by unnoticed 👀

dice variance is your friend and the game is better while it exists (although your personal incentive is to mitigate variance, therein lies half the gameplay, and resolving variance via listbuilding not only makes it difficult for the underdog to ever win - a bad thing that we truly, genuinely do not want if we want xwing to be even reasonably popular and playable - but also guts the actual game's gameplay itself)

15 minutes ago, svelok said:

this is implicit pro-force propaganda and I'm not about to let it slip by unnoticed 👀

dice variance is your friend and the game is better while it exists (although your personal incentive is to mitigate variance, therein lies half the gameplay, and resolving variance via listbuilding not only makes it difficult for the underdog to ever win - a bad thing that we truly, genuinely do not want if we want xwing to be even reasonably popular and playable - but also guts the actual game's gameplay itself)

What, no. Not at all. Passive mods are the great satan. Action dependent mods, blockable and preventable, are fine.

I agree that variance makes the game more accessible. But we also want consistency. Don't get me wrong, we have that more than enough. But it's once more a middle ground for me. Focus evade evade force Whisper is too much. 5X vs FOcho is on the low side where variance has a bit too much of an impact.

On some level, Fort Upgrade loves upgrades because discussing the game and visualizing board states is hard. It's much easier to rattle off combinations of words that get you closer to the ideal game of solitaire that people seem to desire.

5X vs 8FO is the Great Satan because you can't compare words and declare a winner.

1 minute ago, Chumbalaya said:

On some level, Fort Upgrade loves upgrades because discussing the game and visualizing board states is hard.

Almost as hard as nuance, huh.

It's much easier to tie some straw men to windmills and run at those.

Trying to think of lists/ships that accurately represent the "ranges" here. I am somewhere in the 5-15 Range near Snoke.

I guess Boba Fett and Trip Aces with Jousting Upgrades are in the 25-30 Range, with Fat Han or Ghost Fenn at 37.

Hyperbole avoided.

I suspect most people are Snokes Legs.

7 hours ago, Stay OT Leader said:

I mean... neither are very good.

Sure.

6 hours ago, 5050Saint said:

Maybe because the best build (BB Astro's) isn't in hyperspace?

MUH DECLOAK!

Carnor Jax

Soontir Fel

Or to keep it in FO-style emo:

Worlds 2020, 2021, and 2022 should be 120 point Hyperspace Skirmish Format.

23 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Worlds 2020, 2021, and 2022 should be.....

...an all-in Mario Aces High Kart Royal Rumble on a 6x6 mat.

49 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Worlds 2020, 2021, and 2022 should be 120 point Hyperspace Skirmish Format.

The hottest take

Worlds 2020 should be Quickbuild.

3 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

Worlds 2020 should be Quickbuild.

First squad on my practice list:

• Sinker (Expert Handling) ΔΔ
• Jedi Knight (Delta 7B) ΔΔ
• Jedi Knight (Delta 7B) ΔΔ
• Jedi Knight (Delta 7B) ΔΔ

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

First squad on my practice list:

• Sinker (Expert Handling) ΔΔ
• Jedi Knight (Delta 7B) ΔΔ
• Jedi Knight (Delta 7B) ΔΔ
• Jedi Knight (Delta 7B) ΔΔ

Why not 4 starkillers?

9 hours ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

Why not 4 starkillers?

I like turning around?

2 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

I like turning around?

ftfy

Chewbacca (6)
Predator (0)
C-3PO (0)
Leia Organa (0)
R2-D2 (0)
Han Solo (0)
Luke Skywalker (0)
Engine Upgrade (0)
Millennium Falcon (0)

Arvel Crynyd (2)
Intimidation (0)
Proton Rockets (0)
Hull Upgrade (0)

Only the fattest of chewies will prevail.

16 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

Worlds 2020 should be Quickbuild.

Real talk, I wish Quickbuild was a bit (okay, a lot) more balanced because I think the format has a ton of potential.

On 5/7/2020 at 5:34 PM, Cuz05 said:

...an all-in Mario Aces High Kart Royal Rumble on a 6x6 mat.

And thus, the Fireball became meta.

5 hours ago, Npmartian said:

And thus, the Fireball became meta.

Sure, you can burners SLAM, but the gunboat is way more survivable. Take the ion config and SLAM focus 4 lyfe

With Mario Kart pick ups, everyone can SLAM.

3 hours ago, Hoarder of Garlic Bread said:

Sure, you can burners SLAM, but the gunboat is way more survivable. Take the ion config and SLAM focus 4 lyfe

Run it with a jamming beam so you can yell "come on and slam, welcome to the jam" all game.