9 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:I’ll take a stressed shot rather than no shot at all, but then again I don’t fly big bases as much so I hit obstacles more often than I dodge them.
Truth be told it really depends on if i have the points for engine, I didn't play Han much in formats where I could also play Kanan, but taking stress and not being able to boost made life rough at times.
1 minute ago, catachanninja said:
jUsT kIll LOwhhRiCk
Where's Stresshog? Where the f*** is Wallace? Huh? Huh? Chris? Chris? Look at me! Where the f*** is Stresshog? HUH!?
Yeah, Lowhhrick wasn't uninteractive, just stupid.
1 minute ago, Brunas said:No, you're missing the point.
Ensnare on Sun Fac is uninteractive (arguably even after the change, but less so) because it's generally impossible to avoid. Your opponent is going to tractor you, and that's how it is. You don't get a vote.
range 6 360* though, very easily avoided
1 minute ago, catachanninja said:range 6 360* though, very easily avoided
Yeah, it's avoided by killing the sloane carrier, or getting stress at times where it doesn't matter.
I think you're making the wrong argument. The stresshog was also interactive (mostly). You're currently trying to argue Sloane is advanced slam or supernatural reflexes, which it's not.
Edited by Brunas2 minutes ago, Brunas said:No, you're missing the point.
Ensnare on Sun Fac is uninteractive (arguably even after the change, but less so) because it's generally impossible to avoid. Your opponent is going to tractor you, and that's how it is. You don't get a vote.
Ensnare isn't an imperial mechanic, therefore its unfair
23 minutes ago, Biophysical said:They're not alphas.
Woops.
I guess I drop a shield to a hull and outbid your Sabers?
The REAL question is how degenerate this list is:
Wullffwarro (56)
Intimidation (3)
"Zeb" Orrelios (1)
Kanan Jarrus (80)
Hate (9)
Magva Yarro (8)
Maul (12)
Ezra Bridger (TIE Fighter) (31)
Total: 200
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I guess its weakness is that there's no room for foresight, sense, or a turret on Kanan. You could drop Magva for those but then you lose some punch...
Just have Kanan hang out in the back and cover the others with his front arc.
Bad choices all around.
1 minute ago, ClassicalMoser said:Bad choices all around.
I actually really wanted to "like" your post, but it felt like treason.
Srry, bra.
I like how every points update we all worry about Sloane and then in a month everyone forgets Sloane is a thing in the game.
8 minutes ago, Brunas said:Yeah, it's avoided by killing the sloane carrier, or getting stress at times where it doesn't matter.
Curious. Who are you flying against that allows you to get to the Sloane carrier without you getting stressed at an inopportune time?
I mean, I like the theory. I agree with you, in theory. Sloane being back in a TIE Reaper and a wall of fighters between me and her tends to make that a lot more interesting. We've got a local that plays Sloane off and on, and while not unbeatable, it's never an enjoyable game despite him being a joy to talk to otherwise.
11 minutes ago, Brunas said:Yeah, it's avoided by killing the sloane carrier, or getting stress at times where it doesn't matter.
I think you're making the wrong argument. The stresshog was also interactive (mostly). You're currently trying to argue Sloane is advanced slam or supernatural reflexes, which it's not.
I will defend the honor of gunboats and the fireball against this anti-maneuvering-shenanigans screed.
And you can't kink-shame me out of Kylo + Vonreg + bbbbbbbiiiiiiiiiiidddddddd!
5 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:Sloane
Who is Sloane?
34 minutes ago, Bucknife said:I actually really wanted to "like" your post, but it felt like treason.
Srry, bra.
How's this for treason?
Kanan Jarrus (80)
Hate (9)
Dorsal Turret (3)
Magva Yarro (8)
Maul (12)
Han Solo (14)
Ghost (0)
Ezra Bridger (TIE Fighter) (31)
Sense (5)
Hera Syndulla (38)
Phantom (0)
Total: 200
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It's a Sense machine:
1) Ezra looks at a dial
2) Ezra blocks a ship
3) Kanan knows where to put his turret arc, or else reinforces
4) Hera knows where to go
5) Kanan shoots a locked ship with a turret at I7
6) Someone shoots Kanan giving him force and another lock
7) Kanan shoots front arc at I3 with lock and force
8 ) Someone shoots Kanan, giving him a lock for his next turret shot
Anyone shooting at Hera or Ezra has reduced dice. Shooting at Kanan gives him Locks and force. Stupid but fun.
Sure, shoot Kanan. Or don't, your call. It's a question of you powering me or me de-powering you.
Edited by ClassicalMoser2 minutes ago, Bucknife said:Who is Sloane?
we found the G&T kid 
2 minutes ago, Bucknife said:Who is Sloane?
Musician of questionable taste?
7 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:I like how every points update we all worry about Sloane and then in a month everyone forgets Sloane is a thing in the game.
We were 2 pts away from 7 Academy TIEs and Sloane in a Scarif Reaper...that's 1 pt off Sloane and 1 pt off Scarif Reaper...we'll see in the summer...
4 minutes ago, RStan said:We were 2 pts away from 7 Academy TIEs and Sloane in a Scarif Reaper...that's 1 pt off Sloane and 1 pt off Scarif Reaper...we'll see in the summer...
We should ghost in the shell Sloane and put her in a tac droid for CIS
Edit: please don't FFG I can't spend $200 on another faction
Edited by Micanthropyre2 minutes ago, RStan said:We were 2 pts away from 7 Academy TIEs and Sloane in a Scarif Reaper...that's 1 pt off Sloane and 1 pt off Scarif Reaper...we'll see in the summer...
Here's a fun comparison:
Howlrunner - 46 pts
Scarif Base Pilot w/ Sloane - 48 pts
Worth the 2-point upgrade, yes?
Edited by ClassicalMoser8 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:Here's a fun comparison:
Howlrunner - 46 pts
Scarif Base Pilot w/ Sloane - 48 pts
Worth the 2-point upgrade, yes?
Yes.
8 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:We should ghost in the shell Sloane and put her in a tac droid for CIS
Edit: please don't FFG I can't spend $200 on another faction
Ok, if you kill a TIE Fighter, than the rest get an extra focus. And let's give the Phantom a pilot that allows friends to spend focii as if they were crackshot.
9 minutes ago, LagJanson said:Curious. Who are you flying against that allows you to get to the Sloane carrier without you getting stressed at an inopportune time?
I mean, I like the theory. I agree with you, in theory. Sloane being back in a TIE Reaper and a wall of fighters between me and her tends to make that a lot more interesting. We've got a local that plays Sloane off and on, and while not unbeatable, it's never an enjoyable game despite him being a joy to talk to otherwise.
I mean, the only things that particularly care about being double stressed can get around the big blocks of ships people run. I'm assuming something like the old bombers + sloane and not whisper/echo + sloane with like 6 ties or whatever (which was legitimately just stupid).
9 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:Here's a fun comparison:
Howlrunner - 46 pts
Scarif Base Pilot w/ Sloane - 48 pts
Worth the 2-point upgrade, yes?
Generally likely no, but it depends on what you're putting it in.
3 minutes ago, Brunas said:I mean, the only things that particularly care about being double stressed can get around the big blocks of ships people run. I'm assuming something like the old bombers + sloane and not whisper/echo + sloane with like 6 ties or whatever (which was legitimately just stupid).
I’m not jousting the TIE wall either. That said, he’s got final salvo advantage and aware of it. Slow space invader advance makes it very hard to be sneaky.
5 minutes ago, Brunas said:I'm assuming something like the old bombers + sloane
What, like this?
Colonel Jendon (48)
Admiral Sloane (9)
Tomax Bren (35)
Swarm Tactics (4)
Mag-Pulse Warheads (6)
Concussion Missiles (6)
Gamma Squadron Ace (30)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Mag-Pulse Warheads (6)
Concussion Missiles (6)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Gamma Squadron Ace (30)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Mag-Pulse Warheads (6)
Concussion Missiles (6)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Total: 200
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I'mma just deplete you out at I5. If you kill me you get double-stressed and we can reroll without spending our locks. Also we can use concussions after that and just flip your cards.
Hmmm.
Just now, ClassicalMoser said:What, like this?
Colonel Jendon (48)
Admiral Sloane (9)
Tomax Bren (35)
Swarm Tactics (4)
Mag-Pulse Warheads (6)
Concussion Missiles (6)
Gamma Squadron Ace (30)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Mag-Pulse Warheads (6)
Concussion Missiles (6)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Gamma Squadron Ace (30)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Mag-Pulse Warheads (6)
Concussion Missiles (6)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Total: 200
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Hmmm.
So this is making a pretty standard mistake with Sloane. It's just not worth it with 4 ships, one of them being a lambda. One of your bombers is going to be initiative killed, and you now have... two bombers and a shuttle left. Here's what a decent sloane list looks like, if you want to use bombers:
Captain Kagi (48)
Admiral Sloane (9)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot (27)
Barrage Rockets (8)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot (27)
Barrage Rockets (8)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot (27)
Barrage Rockets (8)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot (27)
Barrage Rockets (8)
Total: 197
I'm sure you can make this better by combining two into whisper or soontir or whatever (usually a safe bet in empire...)
You've already got sloane for rerolls, there's no reason to bring Kagi. There's REALLY no reason to bring two sets of munitions.
Math people:
How many times does Heroic need to trigger on Quad T70 (att/def combined) to beat out the sample size increase of having the 5th I2 t65?