5 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

inb4

"Every mechanic given to the First Order and Empire is inherently fair, well costed and not an NPE because their ships are 'frail'"

Ironically, most of the unfair and npe stuff in imperials is buried on the power curve beneath move last token stackers (which are also, obviously incredibly fair and skillful) so the really unfun stuff doesn't even need to get played. Meanwhile the worst meta ever in second edition was when rebels could play several high hit point ships.

3 hours ago, Biophysical said:

Same Team!

stupid internet

9 hours ago, bitsai said:

I have a feeling named Ten/Braylen + StabFoils is going to be quite the thing in the new meta; this is making me very tempted to break my max-2-of-anything rule and get a 3rd B-wing.

It tempts me to bring back Thannison in extended and use mag pulse in Hyperspace.

25 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Ironically, most of the unfair and npe stuff in imperials is buried on the power curve beneath move last token stackers (which are also, obviously incredibly fair and skillful) so the really unfun stuff doesn't even need to get played. Meanwhile the worst meta ever in second edition was when rebels could play several high hit point ships.

It's kinda sad that the best "Commander" type upgrade Imperials have is majorly NPE, and it's even sadder that its maybe still worse than just triple aces.

I feel like quad Saber Sloane might feel super bad for opponents because while Sloan is pretty effective if they're playing 3 ship lists, 4 Sabers are all mini Soontirs if your opponent happens to have large numbers of low initiative ships that would otherwise not care a lot about Sloane.

9 hours ago, bitsai said:

I have a feeling named Ten/Braylen + StabFoils is going to be quite the thing in the new meta; this is making me very tempted to break my max-2-of-anything rule and get a 3rd B-wing.

I don't think Braylen needs the foils, he's the best spot for cannons, but the cannons in HS are kinda limited. I just really like them on ten so i can setup focus/lock easily, if people shoot at him, i'll use his stress on defense, or really at the first opportunity, this makes him a much better closer.

8 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

It's kinda sad that the best "Commander" type upgrade Imperials have is majorly NPE, and it's even sadder that its maybe still worse than just triple aces.

I feel like quad Saber Sloane might feel super bad for opponents because while Sloan is pretty effective if they're playing 3 ship lists, 4 Sabers are all mini Soontirs if your opponent happens to have large numbers of low initiative ships that would otherwise not care a lot about Sloane.

People generally were not upset when their ship, that got double stressed at range six for one shotting wampa, had whisper with vader crew and juke behind it melting it down. It's not like it's something super unfun to play against, like a bwing with rerolls.

Edit, i'm sorry, i forgot the b wing white k turns every 3 turns, it's the every three turns part that makes it really opressive and totally different from a white k turning defender that gets a free evade every turn, which is absolutely fair and fun to play against.

48 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

inb4

"Every mechanic given to the First Order and Empire is inherently fair, well costed and not an NPE because their ships are 'frail'"

Claiming Sloane uninteractive is trying to redefine interactive.

42 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Ironically, most of the unfair and npe stuff in imperials is buried on the power curve beneath move last token stackers (which are also, obviously incredibly fair and skillful) so the really unfun stuff doesn't even need to get played. Meanwhile the worst meta ever in second edition was when rebels could play several high hit point ships.

How else can you demonstrate how deep the brain ridges you've attained are if if you can't be immune to damage moving last?

Also, same team - rebels are the unironic good guys of 2e, even their high point of power level was firing arcs.

13 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Quad “Ace” Ramble:

- Obi Plo Broadside Ani

- Obi Plo Ric Oddball

- Obi Plo Lumi Tano

- Poe Zizi Talli Greer

- Poe Nien Zizi Jaegar

- Vader Duchess Countdown Sabacc

- Vader Duchess Maarek Countdown

- Vonreg Holo LeFrance Scorch

- Holo Midnight Malarus Scorch Longshot

- Kylo Ember Backdraft Scorch

- Kylo Vonreg Scorch Longshot

- Luke Ten Braylen Jake

- Luke Thane Norra Jake

What else?

Fang fang fang fang

1 hour ago, catachanninja said:

You forget how fair and fun and interactive double stressing things is now that it's an imperial mechanic. "Just kill the ship with reinforce first" is also a fair and fine expectation, now that it's imperial

Chris 'only rebels are npe cuz it's not an npe if imperials do it' allen

3 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Claiming Sloane uninteractive is trying to redefine interactive.

How else can you demonstrate how deep the brain ridges you've attained are if if you can't be immune to damage moving last?

Also, same team - rebels are the unironic good guys of 2e, even their high point of power level was firing arcs.

3 minutes ago, jagsba said:

Fang fang fang fang

Chris 'only rebels are npe cuz it's not an npe if imperials do it' allen

Thank you

14 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Claiming Sloane uninteractive is trying to redefine interactive.

Sloane is totally interactive as you always have the option to not destroy my ships which is your only win condition

The imperial list from worlds finals got nerfed by 2 points, the rebel list from worlds finals stayed the same.

rebel bias is real

12 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:

rebel bias is real

Of course. We want the good guys to win, right?

6 minutes ago, LUZ_TAK said:

Of course. We want the good guys to win, right?

this is where we dance the awkward "are the rebels the good guys or are they terrorists" debate, right?

27 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:

The imperial list from worlds finals got nerfed by 2 points, the rebel list from worlds finals stayed the same.

rebel bias is real

Well, Imperials won. Everything is fine.

Mag Pulse Vader looks like a lot of fun for 75 points.

1 minute ago, impspy said:

Mag Pulse Vader looks like a lot of fun for 75 points.

I actively question your definition of 'fun'

1 minute ago, MasterShake2 said:

I actively question your definition of 'fun'

Oh not fun for my opponents, I'll give you that.

I'm being drawn back into Empire lol

10 minutes ago, impspy said:

Mag Pulse Vader looks like a lot of fun for 75 points.

Ah yes, I too welcome our new I6 Mag Pulse overlords.

All hail Vader, Poe, and Vonreg.

41 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:

this is where we dance the awkward "are the rebels the good guys or are they terrorists" debate, right?

one person's terrorists are another's freedom fighters

10 minutes ago, jagsba said:

one person's terrorists are another's freedom fighters

Krayt Daily Discussion: how much will Mag Pulse Warheads cost come July?

"NPE" is purely subjective.

:runs away:

58 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:

Ah yes, I too welcome our new I6 Mag Pulse overlords.

All hail Vader, Poe, and Vonreg.

Bold of you to assume Han won’t stuff some mag pulse warheads in the tubes.