48 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Oh, you mean Hyperspace, specifically? If so, yeah, I guess Republic folks will flounder and die off. Separatist loyalists are too financially invested to be allowed to leave, lol.

Trade federation players were too financially invested to not buy into the faction to begin with

4 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Trade federation players were too financially invested to not buy into the faction to begin with

CIS mains in Hyperspace: "Time to abandon ship!" *cough cough* proceeds to jettison from the not-subtly named Invisible Hand, escaping in the small base ship with organic pilots that they have been the one to remain Hyperspace Legal.

On 1/10/2020 at 11:37 AM, Brunas said:

What I'm trying to say is, X-Wing did have huge power creep, but it was during wave 3, and there's no real solution for it other than trying to make it fit into the game. No one was complaining when aethersprites released, everyone found out they actually loved aethersprites the whole time (@FranquesEnbiens).

Turns out there were prequel ships that were beautiful and amazing all along and I never knew it.

@Boom Owl, @Brunas

Okay, I can buy Proud generic fo's over fanatical....

But now I'm truly conflicted.

With both at 2pts, when would I ever take Fanatical?

People keep putting it on SFs and Silencers, but it was literally made for FOs, so....

Help me out here.

6 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

With both at 2pts, when would I ever take Fanatical?

Rarely on FOs.

Just now, Bucknife said:

@Boom Owl, @Brunas

Okay, I can buy Proud generic fo's over fanatical....

But now I'm truly conflicted.

With both at 2pts, when would I ever take Fanatical?

People keep putting it on SFs and Silencers, but it was literally made for FOs, so....

Help me out here.

Fanatical SF's are good because unless it's QD it's unlikely they'll get burned down before they can proc it. Silencers seem like they can move over to Trad but I think since their offense is better and they're tankier you want Fanatical.

4 minutes ago, impspy said:

Fanatical SF's are good because unless it's QD it's unlikely they'll get burned down before they can proc it. Silencers seem like they can move over to Trad but I think since their offense is better and they're tankier you want Fanatical.

They have the same hull value.

Feels like a playstyle decision.

Just now, Micanthropyre said:

They have the same hull value.

Silencer has 4 hull tho, plus autothrusters makes them squirrelier.

1 minute ago, impspy said:

Silencer has 4 hull tho, plus autothrusters makes them squirrelier.

I think he meant FO and SF.

Just now, Cerebrawl said:

I think he meant FO and SF.

Ah! I think, then, that the difference comes in how you fly them. Since I use the gunner SF's I get more utility out of Fanatical with 3-4 die attacks or a double tap, while for my FO's the thinking is that I spam Trad on filler Omegas and dare my opponents to eat crits or spend a focus to turn it off.

32 minutes ago, FranquesEnbiens said:

Turns out there were prequel ships that were beautiful and amazing all along and I never knew it.

at least you know the truth now

1 hour ago, gennataos said:

I feel like, generally, the way to kill Fenn is to move before him, block and kill him. Then fly away from Boba, come around and range control joust him? Right? I guess I need to play it again to familiarize myself with it again. I just feel like new generic spam can handle that okay(ish).

Maybe, but R1 shot with 3 dice and focus against tokenless Fenn has 72% of not dealing any damage at all (avarage 0.35 damage). So you need to be R2 with your ships and block him. Still only 0.61 damage per shot with 2 dice + focus. It's hard to kill Fenn with 2 dice primary front arcs.

2 minutes ago, Boreas Mun said:

Maybe, but R1 shot with 3 dice and focus against tokenless Fenn has 72% of not dealing any damage at all (avarage 0.35 damage). So you need to be R2 with your ships and block him. Still only 0.61 damage per shot with 2 dice + focus. It's hard to kill Fenn with 2 dice primary front arcs.

I'm not sure why you'd assume I'm bringing 2-die front arc guns.

38 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Rarely on FOs.

Okay...

VNs have more blues (+4+5 straight) than fo's. BA's also have that amazing string of speed 1 blues.

________

I'm getting the vibes that Proud is better for VNs and Barons (arc dodgers), and Fanatical is better for FO's, who are designed to take advantage of Target Locks and just fanatical their Focus (skinny brawlers).

7 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I'm not sure why you'd assume I'm bringing 2-die front arc guns.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

(Sorry, y'all. I'm on a roll today... And maybe some caffeine.)

9 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I'm not sure why you'd assume I'm bringing 2-die front arc guns.

I played a Poe + 4A against quad fangs the other night and...time on target isn't everything. I got r2 shots almost every round but it was like clockwork how the fang alternates between double nattie evades and blanking out. 2 dice butt guns won't consistently kill a fang.

4 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

(Sorry, y'all. I'm on a roll today... And maybe some caffeine.)

@gennataos is a changed man, a convert to the religion of quad t70s.

11 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:

I played a Poe + 4A against quad fangs the other night and...time on target isn't everything. I got r2 shots almost every round but it was like clockwork how the fang alternates between double nattie evades and blanking out. 2 dice butt guns won't consistently kill a fang.

I don’t know if non-optics/Heroic A-Wings can really speak to that.

12 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

@gennataos is a changed man, a convert to the religion of quad t70s.

Mostly that, but also 5A can ensure the predicted Hyperspace Fang overlords have a short reign.

5 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Mostly that, but also 5A can ensure the predicted Hyperspace Fang overlords have a short reign.

At the moment...

I can't decide if 3A2X is better than 5a.

Also 3X2A.

Also 4X1A.

31 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

At the moment...

I can't decide if 3A2X is better than 5a.

Also 3X2A.

Also 4X1A.

Just be sure to never* leave home without your trusty Adv Optics!

* extremely rare case it's not actually "never"

2 hours ago, gennataos said:

Did they?

Also, why is everyone defaulting to Boba/Fenn ruling Hyperspace? Is it because it was already a meta presence and didn't change in price much?

boba gud against swarm

fenn gud to hunt ace

things that should show up in hyperspace: swarm & ace

32 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

At the moment...

I can't decide if 3A2X is better than 5a.

Also 3X2A.

Also 4X1A.

I have a hard time believing anything Resistance will trump 5A for Hyperspace consistency, but time will tell!

16 minutes ago, jagsba said:

boba gud against swarm

fenn gud to hunt ace

things that should show up in hyperspace: swarm & ace

I agree it'll be good, I just don't get the "I win" button reactions.

24 minutes ago, jagsba said:

boba gud against swarm

fenn gud to hunt ace

things that should show up in hyperspace: swarm & ace

And this is why I fly Instinctive Aim + Optics.

51 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I don’t know if non-optics/Heroic A-Wings can really speak to that.

Mostly that, but also 5A can ensure the predicted Hyperspace Fang overlords have a short reign.

Thats a suprise, don't the rear arcs really hurt the fangs?

Just now, catachanninja said:

Thats a suprise, don't the rear arcs really hurt the fangs?

Which part is the surprise? Yeah, RZ-2 A-Wings kind of chew up Fangs, but I assume Optics/Heroic when saying that.