11 hours ago, Brunas said:Awesome - thanks. My data crunching stuff is currently all being rewritten - do you have the ability to quickly get what games went to time by faction?
Where are the individual match scores found? The cab export from fortress just seems to be lists and final standings and scores.
4 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:Where are the individual match scores found? The cab export from fortress just seems to be lists and final standings and scores.
Scroll down, click the Round Numbers in blue.
10 hours ago, skotothalamos said:I think the answer is that ST-321 ignores range restrictions and Jendon’s text is a range restriction so it’s ignored?
Nope, the final ruling was that ST-321 ignores range restrictions on the "acquiring a target lock," so the ship chosen can be any distance from the shuttle. However, it still requires you to choose a ship 0-3 of the coordinated ship. If it said "acquire a lock using the coordinated ship as the source" or something similar, then it would work.
Other fun rulings I'm not sure I got right, but I think I did: AP-5 coordinates a stressed Jake Farrell, does he get his bonus focus? (No) Tel Trevura "dies", do locks stay on her when she goes to reserves? (Yes)
12 hours ago, Brunas said:Awesome - thanks. My data crunching stuff is currently all being rewritten - do you have the ability to quickly get what games went to time by faction?
All too easy.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cxB6zRHHIHwORS20dcZXJ90g7ZcAETdLZ0J11xw-B3Q/edit?usp=sharing
Oh wait not easy my son isn't letting me finish day 1b ands the cut. dude LOVES computers!
EDIT: all three days data should be in, and the summary of finished games i think is right?
Edited by Ablazoned16 minutes ago, Ablazoned said:All too easy.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cxB6zRHHIHwORS20dcZXJ90g7ZcAETdLZ0J11xw-B3Q/edit?usp=sharing
Oh wait not easy my son isn't letting me finish day 1b ands the cut. dude LOVES computers!
8 hours ago, Do I need a Username said:X-wings (both kinds are good). Obviously the T-65 depends more on it's pilots, but the T-70 is a generally strong ship, and I'd hesitate to say any of the pilots (except maybe tubs) are bad, at most mediocore but I don't think that applies to any of them either (not enough experience with some of them too say for sure though). It's a space superiority fighter that isn't priced like an E-wing.
I think the X-wings might be among the best designed ships in 2.0. They're pretty balanced, they feel like the right power level, and they're interesting to play, all while being the well rounded fighter they're supposed to be according to lore.
Hearing a decent # of complaints about prize support which is weird to me. Guess its just a miniatures/card game culture thing.
Why do you go to X-Wing Tournaments?
https://strawpoll.com/97bwd8kd
Edited by Boom OwlJust now, Boom Owl said:Hearing a decent # of complaints about prize support which is weird to me. Guess its just a miniatures/card game culture thing.
Why do you go to X-Wing Tournaments?
It's something I don't get... Most of my miniature gaming experience never had much of anything for prize support and generally only for the winner of everything if it did. The main draw was just to get out and play a few games. Ok, so I'd love to win a ticket to worlds, and some of the cards are nice to haves, but I don't normally line up at a tournament with prizes as the goal.
5 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Hearing a decent # of complaints about prize support which is weird to me. Guess its just a miniatures/card game culture thing.
Why do you go to X-Wing Tournaments?
To play a set number of games for sure should be an answer.
5 minutes ago, Quack Shot said:To play a set number of games for sure should be an answer.
File that under "Honor".
15 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:File that under "Honor".
Your data is now invalid... I filed the same answer under "Friends."
unironically the friends you made a long the way.
But we need to remember a lot of gamers are introverts, so please be inclusive.
20 minutes ago, LagJanson said:It's something I don't get... Most of my miniature gaming experience never had much of anything for prize support and generally only for the winner of everything if it did. The main draw was just to get out and play a few games. Ok, so I'd love to win a ticket to worlds, and some of the cards are nice to haves, but I don't normally line up at a tournament with prizes as the goal.
But how do you pay for events if you don't sell your prize support?
2 minutes ago, LagJanson said:Your data is now invalid... I filed the same answer under "Friends."
Did the same lol
Just now, jagsba said:But how do you pay for events if you don't sell your prize support?
Honestly, a lot of the events we ran were free. The game company donated a few prizes here and there to be used, often it was a couple dollars of gift certificates on their product.
10 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:unironically the friends you made a long the way.
But we need to remember a lot of gamers are introverts, so please be inclusive.
Yea this is DWYWM territory no doubt. Not saying its "wrong" to like prize support.
Just seems like a formula for disappoint if thats the main reason you are there.
Edited by Boom Owl44 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Hearing a decent # of complaints about prize support which is weird to me. Guess its just a miniatures/card game culture thing.
Why do you go to X-Wing Tournaments?
Where is the 'To Play X Wing' option? 
Ok, missed a whole page, supaninja'd.
Prize support only counts as a factor for me if the tourney has a high entrance fee, since that's basically what I'm paying more for.
A couple of illustrations. One local store has a £15 fee. For that, you get the regular alt bumf and a whole small ship, just for being there. The top 3 get even more.
Another has a £12 fee and offers around £40 store credit, split among the top 30%, on top of the standard bumf.
If I'm choosing between the 2, I go for the prizes, since friends and honour are present at both.
The few other local stores are mostly £5 entry with a smattering of credit and alts, for which I am all in on the cheap day of 'To Playing X Wing'.
Edited by Cuz05
6 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Yea this is DWYWM territory no doubt. Not saying its "wrong" to like prize support.
Just seems like a formula for disappoint if thats the main reason you are there.
I mean, the satisfaction people get from being handled literally anything is pretty large.
There's zero reason to avoid participation prizes.
31 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:I mean, the satisfaction people get from being handled literally anything is pretty large.
It sure does make people happy. I try to have some alt arts to give out to all my opponents in Swiss.
Bonus unofficial participation prizes from random opponents is one of the cooler aspects of the x-wing community.
1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:Hearing a decent # of complaints about prize support which is weird to me. Guess its just a miniatures/card game culture thing.
Why do you go to X-Wing Tournaments?
I can't honestly answer just one, because if any of the answers were eliminated, I'd probably be doing a different hobby. I stick with this one because I get all three!
1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:Hearing a decent # of complaints about prize support which is weird to me. Guess its just a miniatures/card game culture thing.
Why do you go to X-Wing Tournaments?
50/50 Friends/Prize support. Near-by tournaments for friends, I travel for Friends but I figure that the bigger the tournament the better the schwagg will be which helps me mentally justify the expense of traveling. I mean, I can see my friends on Thursday nights every week.
1 minute ago, Burius1981 said:50/50 Friends/Prize support. Near-by tournaments for friends, I travel for Friends but I figure that the bigger the tournament the better the schwagg will be which helps me mentally justify the expense of traveling. I mean, I can see my friends on Thursday nights every week.
This feels pretty accurate to nearly all of us saying "friends", if we're being honest.
1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:Hearing a decent # of complaints about prize support which is weird to me. Guess its just a miniatures/card game culture thing.
Why do you go to X-Wing Tournaments?
All three, though “Friends” is the biggest slice of the pie, thus got the vote.
8 hours ago, Sunitsa said:Did you guys like the nova open format? iirc it was the only tournament so far to do 6 rounds of Swiss on 2 days with such a large top cut.
was it better, worse or you didn't notice particular differences from the usual formats?
As a complete outsider, I find the chance to go 0-3, win the following 3 "easier" games to make the cut and potentially win the whole event quite unsettling... But I didn't attend so I'm probably missing something
People have very strong feelings on it. I was ready to laugh a lot if Preston won after going 3-3 in Swiss.
3 hours ago, Ablazoned said:All too easy.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cxB6zRHHIHwORS20dcZXJ90g7ZcAETdLZ0J11xw-B3Q/edit?usp=sharing
Oh wait not easy my son isn't letting me finish day 1b ands the cut. dude LOVES computers!
EDIT: all three days data should be in, and the summary of finished games i think is right?
Thanks!
1 hour ago, Tlfj200 said:unironically the friends you made a long the way.
But we need to remember a lot of gamers are introverts, so please be inclusive.
1 hour ago, Tlfj200 said:I mean, the satisfaction people get from being handled literally anything is pretty large.
There's zero reason to avoid participation prizes.
Mostly this - the participation prize isn't really a "prize", it's a "hey remember when you went to X event?" memento, that's usually also useful for playing games. Bonus points if it's also cool enough to be a conversation piece. It's not that I go to events for prizes, but if they announced "actually we're not bothering with worlds prizes this year" I'd be really disappointed, because the random cool stuff is neat.
Tournaments are mostly for the competition. Having friends there that I've met over time certainly helps the enjoyment. Being honest though, if I were just looking for "enjoyment with my friends", I'd probably just stay home and with my local game group and play casual games. If X-Wing dissolved tomorrow and no tournament ever happened again, there's a large number of you I'd never talk to again. Sad but true.
Part of the excitement of tournament competition is pushing for cool prizes. It's definitely a tipping point for me to push further into higher tiers. Then at the really high levels it becomes a situation of "do I think I'm good enough to make this a free vacation by selling prizes I've won to competitions who can't make it to these events". In that aspect, the cool factor and perceived value of prize support is extremely important to me.
Just look at GenCon, 4-5 days of hotel, badge, food, etc. for essentially just another X-Wing tournament. It's a simple cost/benefit analysis. Some people are outliers and the cost isn't significant. For those looking at a $1000+ price tag, you better be getting some benefit that justifies that. That prize pool was impressive and was definitely worth a few days of X-Wing if I could keep the trip costs down.
Someone asked me if I'd be going to worlds for the last chance qualifier. Heavens no! I'm not good enough to take the gamble on a day of X-Wing. Would I enjoy being with friends for 5-6 days? Sure, but hotel, flight, work time off, etc. simply isn't comparable. I'll stay home and hang with my friends with Dion giving me the play by play on the big screen.