8 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

I find amazing we still expect whoever is in charge of pricing, and designing, xwing things to know what he's doing

But Rebel lists are built on hope...

… and a few other loop holes.

1 hour ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

We all sure as **** know you aren't taking Jedi without 7b. 7b on a TAP would make the thing usable.

It's already very usable. If they make it cheaper, I will be very happy.

GGI is incredibly too dear, but the rest are actually quite good value. You just can't shoehorn them into any old squad, like you can with a lot of ships.

5 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Also Leia is going to be dial-casual cancer unless her point cost starts with '2'

You mean like... 2?

Since we all agreed that her younger self is okay at that price point, I can see that coming.

6 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Give Stress tokens to Nein

Or just generally being a little **** trailing behind the fight, swapping Poe's stress for a reinforce.

I fear this thing will be the pre-nerf escape craft again.

Holdo happens at the initiative of the ship she's on, so unless your opponent has all of his ships shooting after the transport Poe isn't going to get as much use out of that token as he'd like.

1 minute ago, DR4CO said:

Holdo happens at the initiative of the ship she's on, so unless your opponent has all of his ships shooting after the transport Poe isn't going to get as much use out of that token as he'd like.

So... question... does that mean lower initiative generics get to die first and not bother to fire back? That makes it better?

a bit overstated but trying to make the point clear

22 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

So... question... does that mean lower initiative generics get to die first and not bother to fire back? That makes it better?

a bit overstated but trying to make the point clear

The lower initiative generics are going to die first and not bother to fire back whether Holdo's there or not.

33 minutes ago, DR4CO said:

Holdo happens at the initiative of the ship she's on, so unless your opponent has all of his ships shooting after the transport Poe isn't going to get as much use out of that token as he'd like.

Thats why im looking at holdo on Rey/Han or next to something that has the Swarm Tac.

7 minutes ago, DR4CO said:

The lower initiative generics are going to die first and not bother to fire back whether Holdo's there or not.

Die first, yes, but they had shots before making it risky for Poe to be too aggressive. Risk is significantly reduced if he has a reinforced token.

Again, I’m not declaring end of the world here, but this is not good design.

And some of us enjoyed massed generics.

26 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

Die first, yes, but they had shots before making it risky for Poe to be too aggressive. Risk is significantly reduced if he has a reinforced token.

Again, I’m not declaring end of the world here, but this is not good design.

And some of us enjoyed massed generics.

Yeah, because Reinforce wasn't revamped between editions and is still that magical take-no-damage button from 1.0 so Poe can happily sit in front of a gunline in complete safety.

Wait...

My point is that Holdo's timing is awkward enough that it's going to be easily punishable by a variety of lists, and the Reinforce token isn't even as big a deal as people are making out.

8 minutes ago, DR4CO said:

Yeah, because Reinforce wasn't revamped between editions and is still that magical take-no-damage button from 1.0 so Poe can happily sit in front of a gunline in complete safety.

Wait...

My point is that Holdo's timing is awkward enough that it's going to be easily punishable by a variety of lists, and the Reinforce token isn't even as big a deal as people are making out.

Whatever, just saying my piece and I did agree it shouldn’t be a panic. I’m allowed to be concerned without sitting in either the “Holdo sucks” and “Run, it’s Holdo” camps.

I'm mostly concerned that there's an incoming crew/coordinate combo that's so good it makes playing Poe extremely linear.

I'd like to have a choice, if possible.

I'm finding it hard to care enough to be concerned. I can't even guess how many things they'll change, or by how much. I was extremely wrong about how much they would touch at the last rebalance.

Interestingly, if the points actually drop on the 26th, I'll have to figure out what fits while I'm at work so that I have something to play at the store for the local play night that day.

I'll also point out that there's a Krayt over/under that could be made on how long the panic thread gets in the first 24 hours after the new points drop.

11 hours ago, catachanninja said:

The transport (assuming it's not crazy expensive) seems like a great fit for resistance, they're an ace heavy faction and will really like what it brings

Some combination of Shuttle/Pod+Crew should fit with BB8 Primed Poe and a 2nd or maybe 3rd T70? Could be fun.

@gennataos I finally tried out a slight variation on Poe/Temmin/L'ulo and yep turns out its extremely entertaining. Can't wait to run it with an alternative to L'ulo. For some reason actually playing Resistance & Poe for several games made it clear that its not all that different than the majority of Republic, FO, or Empire Ace lists.Same basic ace+support archetypes different ship models, a little bit more HP.

End of the day if I am able to build a couple Resistance Lists that are T70 focused and don't require a YT, StarFortress, or RZ2A to be functional ill be pretty happy.

Hasnt been talked about much but the one of biggest impacts leia might have on resistance is how many moves will work with BB astromechs now.

55 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Some combination of Shuttle/Pod+Crew should fit with BB8 Primed Poe and a 2nd or maybe 3rd T70? Could be fun.

@gennataos I finally tried out a slight variation on Poe/Temmin/L'ulo and yep turns out its extremely entertaining. Can't wait to run it with an alternative to L'ulo. For some reason actually playing Resistance & Poe for several games made it clear that its not all that different than the majority of Republic, FO, or Empire Ace lists.Same basic ace+support archetypes different ship models, a little bit more HP.

End of the day if I am able to build a couple Resistance Lists that are T70 focused and don't require a YT, StarFortress, or RZ2A to be functional ill be pretty happy.

Hasnt been talked about much but the one of biggest impacts leia might have on resistance is how many moves will work with BB astromechs now.

You have no idea how much this picture collage warms my heart. Also, BB rookie fits. No bid, but bids are for the weak and timid?

also...

ARCH ON TOP!!!

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

Hasnt been talked about much but the one of biggest impacts leia might have on resistance is how many moves will work with BB astromechs now.

The options for BB T70's backed by Leia will make the amazing dials on RZ2s look predictable...

1 hour ago, PaulRuddSays said:

I'll also point out that there's a Krayt over/under that could be made on how long the panic thread gets in the first 24 hours after the new points drop.

Are over/unders still a thing?

15 minutes ago, jokerkd said:

Are over/unders still a thing?

Only for Bantha steaks.

55 minutes ago, jokerkd said:

Are over/unders still a thing?

Maybe™

We're thinking getting people to do the equivalent of these for the points changes, by faction:

8 hours ago, gennataos said:

You have no idea how much this picture collage warms my heart. Also, BB rookie fits. No bid, but bids are for the weak and timid?

also...

ARCH ON TOP!!!

Special edition Stanley Cup Arch Alliance alt art?

Jumping back to an old topic...

Cova Nell = Over/Under 40 pts?

Leia = Over/Under 12 pts?

Poe = Over/Under 65 pts?

5 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Jumping back to an old topic...

Cova Nell = Over/Under 40 pts?

Leia = Over/Under 12 pts?

Poe = Over/Under 65 pts?

Should be, or will be?

7 hours ago, Brunas said:

Maybe™

We're thinking getting people to do the equivalent of these for the points changes, by faction:

3 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Should be, or will be?

Will be

20 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Jumping back to an old topic...

Cova Nell = Over/Under 40 pts?

Leia = Over/Under 12 pts?

Poe = Over/Under 65 pts?

Cova = over, 42

Leia = under, 10

Poe = over, 66

20 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Jumping back to an old topic...

Cova Nell = Over/Under 40 pts?

Leia = Over/Under 12 pts?

Poe = Over/Under 65 pts?

Hammer the over. But not by much. Going with 42/14/66