Carolina Krayts is the best X-Wing podcast

By SaltMaster 5000, in X-Wing

6 minutes ago, RoockieBoy said:

Alessandro marmorini won with something like this:

2 Initiative 2 B-Wings with HU,

 Initiative 2 U-Wing with Leia and Tac Of.

 Wedge with Afterburners and predator

runner up had

Cassian, leia, tac of.

Wedge, crackshot

Braylenn, SD,

In 2 B-Wing with HU

Caution, Rebel Leia Beef evolution in progress.
Gotta respect the super early preparation for point adjustment.

the relative lack of words on that winning list is part of what convinces me that Rebel beef has potential to be wholesome.

It's not like 1.0 where you dig deep enough and literally everything is cancer.

5 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Rebel beef has potential to be wholesome.

Absolutely

3 hours ago, Sunitsa said:

the other with a mother****ing stealth device on braylen

With Braylen's rerolls, while he's not super likely to *keep* his Stealth Device, he is fairly likely to get an Evade out of it. If you can get that first evade, the SD is as good as a shield, in terms of total HP. And if by some stray chance doesn't break, even better.

Braylen, Captain Feroph, and Han Solo all seem like they might have enough of a chance at consistently getting the first evade to make it plausible, even if it still breaks on the first shot.

2 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Caution, Rebel Leia Beef evolution in progress.
Gotta respect the super early preparation for point adjustment.

1 hour ago, Kieransi said:

the relative lack of words on that winning list is part of what convinces me that Rebel beef has potential to be wholesome.

It's not like 1.0 where you dig deep enough and literally everything is cancer.

Alessandro has been playing wedge, 2 hull upgrades + 1 (before leia it used to be another ps 2 or sabine) since 2.0 hit.

He went 5-1 at the uktc (losing only against ruling European champion Ben Lee), 8-0 at the itc, lost an hyperspace trial final and did top 4 at another one

I've written at length about how good generic hull upgraded B wings because I'm one of the poor souls who's facing that bull on weekly basis since October.

He's not adapting for point changes and it's far from being a wholesome list, trust me. There's nothing wholesome on 44 points 9 hp ship with focus linked barrel. Or even at 46 points if that matters

He wins mirrors quite regularly. The fact Alessandro played some kind of 4 ships rebels in every meta 1.0 ever had probably helped.

2 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

With Braylen's rerolls, while he's not super likely to *keep* his Stealth Device, he is fairly likely to get an Evade out of it. If you can get that first evade, the SD is as good as a shield, in terms of total HP. And if by some stray chance doesn't break, even better.

Braylen, Captain Feroph, and Han Solo all seem like they might have enough of a chance at consistently getting the first evade to make it plausible, even if it still breaks on the first shot.

I had some success with Stealth Device Boba Fett back in October.

Nothing more disheartening to a TIE Swarm player than Boba moving from range 4 to range 1 with 3 agility, a focus, an evade and two calculates and still having three agility at the end of the turn. I think that's like a 200-point Boba now though.

20 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

I know there no rocks which makes this all hypothetical.
Am I missing any other "generic" ways that people play x-wing besides aces players that 100% choose not to play the game and turret aces flying kites?

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I want to talk more about this.

You used some different categories in your video analysis (joust, partial joust, flank, ...). Could you give the numbers to clearly show which are which? E.g. 1,3 and 4 are all jousts as far as I see it.

I'll also use this to think about openings, as I'm still convinced that it's possible to think of some few to cover most setups.

9 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

With Braylen's rerolls, while he's not super likely to *keep* his Stealth Device, he is fairly likely to get an Evade out of it. If you can get that first evade, the SD is as good as a shield, in terms of total HP. And if by some stray chance doesn't break, even better.

Braylen, Captain Feroph, and Han Solo all seem like they might have enough of a chance at consistently getting the first evade to make it plausible, even if it still breaks on the first shot.

Dear Lord, I hope I never see that version. Much of the damage I deal to Braylen is a direct result of Thanisson's tractor. In some games, that's literally not a joke.

3 hours ago, KiraYamatoSF said:

That calculator...

Were you at Evansville this weekend by any chance?

If I have it right who both of you are, he’s who you faced in the final.

This is without a doubt the worst game of X-Wing 2.0 I've ever seen - thanks, California.

TL;DW:

  • 4x Starvipers LARP as Phantoms and curve roll into one turns for 75 minutes.
  • Across the table, 4x Torrents k-turn up and down their board edge for 75 minutes.
  • Sinker and Luminara fortress into each other for most of 75 minutes, until, with 6 minutes left on the clock, Sinker finally breaks the fortress only to dial in the wrong 3-bank and fly off the mat.
  • Finally, as the round goes to time, the 4 Vipers and 4 Torrents joust each other for exactly one turn of dice rolls and do irrelevant damage.
  • Meanwhile, the casters slip deeper and deeper into depression comas as they watch no ship leave its deployment zone for over an hour.

This was the final of a hyperspace trial with a whopping 89 players.

7 minutes ago, svelok said:

This is without a doubt the worst game of X-Wing 2.0 I've ever seen - thanks, California.

TL;DW:

  • 4x Starvipers LARP as Phantoms and curve roll into one turns for 75 minutes.
  • Across the table, 4x Torrents k-turn up and down their board edge for 75 minutes.
  • Sinker and Luminara fortress into each other for most of 75 minutes, until, with 6 minutes left on the clock, Sinker finally breaks the fortress only to dial in the wrong 3-bank and fly off the mat.
  • Finally, as the round goes to time, the 4 Vipers and 4 Torrents joust each other for exactly one turn of dice rolls and do irrelevant damage.
  • Meanwhile, the casters slip deeper and deeper into depression comas as they watch no ship leave its deployment zone for over an hour.

This was the final of a hyperspace trial with a whopping 89 players.

And he even did the 3-bank wrong... Can't do the outside of the nubs with a bank. 🤬

I'm a little sad that a list as fun as 4 Starvipers has a final like this.

3 minutes ago, svelok said:

This is without a doubt the worst game of X-Wing 2.0 I've ever seen - thanks, California.

The interesting question: who was wrong?

  • 12 reds vs 13, so the republic player is less wrong to remain in his start zone
  • 2 green dice on a Torrent means the Starvipers at range 2 have a 63% chance to remove it entirely, and 92% to get half points. Even at range 3, a Torrent will give up points 73% of the time.
  • Conversely, the chance to take an entire Starviper off the board at range 2 is much smaller (25%) and 68% to get half points (assuming Luminara won't shoot).
  • Half Starviper is 25, full Torrent is 25.
  • That means the republic player gets the better joust AND better final salvo.
  • Based on that I'd say the Starviper guy has to catch part of the republic list, grab some points and then run.

Given the way the starviper player apparently played his games every game, the republic player should have never engaged; but only partially engaging, especially at time, is literally helping the Scum player.

56 minutes ago, svelok said:

This is without a doubt the worst game of X-Wing 2.0 I've ever seen - thanks, California.

TL;DW:

  • 4x Starvipers LARP as Phantoms and curve roll into one turns for 75 minutes.
  • Across the table, 4x Torrents k-turn up and down their board edge for 75 minutes.
  • Sinker and Luminara fortress into each other for most of 75 minutes, until, with 6 minutes left on the clock, Sinker finally breaks the fortress only to dial in the wrong 3-bank and fly off the mat.
  • Finally, as the round goes to time, the 4 Vipers and 4 Torrents joust each other for exactly one turn of dice rolls and do irrelevant damage.
  • Meanwhile, the casters slip deeper and deeper into depression comas as they watch no ship leave its deployment zone for over an hour.

This was the final of a hyperspace trial with a whopping 89 players.

Blessed video

2 hours ago, gennataos said:

If I have it right who both of you are, he’s who you faced in the final.

EJ is not on this thread to my knowledge. He plays at the same store I do in NWI.

2 minutes ago, Dismal Scientist said:

EJ is not on this thread to my knowledge. He plays at the same store I do in NWI.

My bad. I assume too much!

1 minute ago, gennataos said:

My bad. I assume too much!

You assume too much

Just now, Tlfj200 said:

You assume too much

...in all facets of my life.

1 hour ago, svelok said:

This is without a doubt the worst game of X-Wing 2.0 I've ever seen - thanks, California.

TL;DW:

  • 4x Starvipers LARP as Phantoms and curve roll into one turns for 75 minutes.
  • Across the table, 4x Torrents k-turn up and down their board edge for 75 minutes.
  • Sinker and Luminara fortress into each other for most of 75 minutes, until, with 6 minutes left on the clock, Sinker finally breaks the fortress only to dial in the wrong 3-bank and fly off the mat.
  • Finally, as the round goes to time, the 4 Vipers and 4 Torrents joust each other for exactly one turn of dice rolls and do irrelevant damage.
  • Meanwhile, the casters slip deeper and deeper into depression comas as they watch no ship leave its deployment zone for over an hour.

This was the final of a hyperspace trial with a whopping 89 players.

It was the final, so it was actually for closer to 115 minutes. What im still trying to figure out is, was the 3 bank off the board intentional? Did they just want a really specific subset of people to suffer?

13 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

It was the final, so it was actually for closer to 115 minutes. What im still trying to figure out is, was the 3 bank off the board intentional? Did they just want a really specific subset of people to suffer?

Sure looked like he didn’t care. /shrug

20 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

It was the final, so it was actually for closer to 115 minutes. What im still trying to figure out is, was the 3 bank off the board intentional? Did they just want a really specific subset of people to suffer?

this is one of the hazards of not placing a dial that matters for two hours.

how did 4 starvipers even reach a final?

Just now, Sunitsa said:

how did 4 starvipers even reach a final?

pretty sure the the answer is pseudo-fortressing, and no one understanding what to do about it.

Just now, Sunitsa said:

how did 4 starvipers even reach a final?

They achieved victory on their overwhelming awesomeness.