7 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

QD is fine at his current points, are you guys actually playing him?

Yes. Alot. This will make you laugh but Wedge is clearly better.
If he stays at 52 pts id expect Quickdraw to see a point reduction.
Opponents show Quickdraw entirely to much respect.

Also as far as Blackout iv tested him a good amount recently and a small point reduction would go a long way, already useful.
I expect any point reduction to Poe to be paired with a similar reduction for Blackout since they are so close in cost.

51 minutes ago, Micanthropyre said:

They make this game. It's called Wings of War.

Which no one ******* plays because it has no popular branding.

2 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Yes. Alot. This will make you laugh but Wedge is clearly better.
If he stays at 52 pts id expect Quickdraw to see a point reduction.
Opponents show Quickdraw entirely to much respect.

Well, I've been arguing wedge is undercosted pretty much since 2.0 hit and it's even more blatant now, so I don't think his 52 point range is actually a good comparison...

I would rather see wedge raising closer to qd than qd reduced.

FO already is a sleeper good faction, although with very little to none room to personalization. In current HS it's being held back by rebel beef, but that's because rebel beef is a broken bull in hs...

4 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Which no one ******* plays because it has no popular branding.

you'll likely have better success convincing people to play that than you will have convincing FFG to make generics the best ships in X-Wing.

7 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Yes. Alot. This will make you laugh but Wedge is clearly better.
If he stays at 52 pts id expect Quickdraw to see a point reduction.
Opponents show Quickdraw entirely to much respect.

Also as far as Blackout iv tested him a good amount recently and a small point reduction would go a long way, already useful.
I expect any point reduction to Poe to be paired with a similar reduction for Blackout since they are so close in cost.

In a first order list, I would trade Quickdraw with Fanatical (57 points) straight up for Wedge in a heartbeat if I had to pay the same 57 points to get Wedge that I played for Quickdraw. It's an easy decision.

7 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Yes. Alot. This will make you laugh but Wedge is clearly better.
If he stays at 52 pts id expect Quickdraw to see a point reduction.
Opponents show Quickdraw entirely to much respect.

Also as far as Blackout iv tested him a good amount recently and a small point reduction would go a long way, already useful.
I expect any point reduction to Poe to be paired with a similar reduction for Blackout since they are so close in cost.

In a first order list, I would trade Quickdraw with Fanatical (57 points) straight up for Wedge in a heartbeat if I had to pay the same 57 points to get Wedge that I played for Quickdraw. It's an easy decision.

1 minute ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Which no one ******* plays because it has no popular branding.

WWI and WWII games used to be like printing money. Now it's all Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. Probably something generational going on there. Someone should do a sociology study...

42 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

In current HS it's being held back by rebel beef

What?
FO specifically counters beef.
That matchup is its one party trick and the only reason FO has stayed relevant in hyperspace...
Its Aces with a Brain that dont mindlessly yolo joust Tavson that are the tricky bit.

Also I agree with you about Wedge in that if he goes up QD stays same.

23 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Which no one ******* plays because it has no popular branding.

Just bring your friendgroup along

Why are we so mad at wedge and not cassian pilot and leia, again?

But you guys spent so many months telling me that Wedge Is Badtm

8 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

Why are we so mad at wedge and not cassian pilot and leia, again?

Is it either/or?

16 minutes ago, Maui. said:

But you guys spent so many months telling me that Wedge Is Badtm

And they were wrong!

Wedge is amazing, and as a maneuverable I6 should see an increase. He needs to pay much more for his initiative. 55+ at least.

On further consideration, I'm cooling on Angled Deflectors. If it's equivalent price to a shield upgrade, it's a 2 HP swing for a similar defensive mod slot. That's 2 useful occurrences of Reinforce to break even on damage, and that requires an action to do it. 2 uses is not difficult to get, as it could happen in one turn and use a single action. I'm wondering how often you'd rather have the HP and the action to avoid damage or inflict more damage yourself. Points will obviously matter a lot, but the more I headsim, the more it feels like a card with a narrower use than I was originally thinking.

2 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

On further consideration, I'm cooling on Angled Deflectors. If it's equivalent price to a shield upgrade, it's a 2 HP swing for a similar defensive mod slot. That's 2 useful occurrences of Reinforce to break even on damage, and that requires an action to do it. 2 uses is not difficult to get, as it could happen in one turn and use a single action. I'm wondering how often you'd rather have the HP and the action to avoid damage or inflict more damage yourself. Points will obviously matter a lot, but the more I headsim, the more it feels like a card with a narrower use than I was originally thinking.

Norra, Braylen, Redline seem like the major winners, and maybe Poe.

53 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

Why are we so mad at wedge and not cassian pilot and leia, again?

I dont think Wedge needs to increase. Just curious if it will.

For the debate on Quickdraw and Wedge

How do you think Zeta Survivors are doing? If you pay the low price of 11 points, it

- moves you from Init Awful to Init Best

- Gives you an EPT

- Lets you shoot extra times

6 minutes ago, svelok said:

Norra, Braylen, Redline seem like the major winners, and maybe Poe.

Boba also has the action efficiency and the beef to consider it.

21 minutes ago, Q10fanatic said:

Boba also has the action efficiency and the beef to consider it.

so you can trade a shield for making your reinforce white?

28 minutes ago, svelok said:

Norra, Braylen, Redline seem like the major winners, and maybe Poe.

Disagree on Braylen. Without a dedicated coordinate bot following him around he loses his ability to double mod offense and multiple rerolls on defense

43 minutes ago, jagsba said:

so you can trade a shield for making your reinforce white?

Depending on the cost, I *may* consider it. That way with a coordinate bot you can focus/reinforce every turn and still have an open dial.

4 hours ago, Micanthropyre said:

They make this game. It's called Wings of War.

Wings of Glory, nowadays.

I'm currently anxiously awaiting my Tripods & Triplanes Kickstarter order. (Just what it sounds like: WWI was interrupted by the Martian Invasion. Four new Martian tripods, armed with heat-rays and black smoke generators. Met with resistance by a hasty coalition of all the air powers, with rocket-armed planes.)

Gonna be f--kin' glorious.

2 hours ago, Q10fanatic said:

Boba also has the action efficiency and the beef to consider it.

If Boba has the coordinator, he doesn't need a white reinforce that cost him a shield.

3 hours ago, jagsba said:

so you can trade a shield for making your reinforce white?

I flew Boba as part of a double Firespray list all Hyperspace season and got Top 4 and Top 16 with it. I prefer Slave I title, which makes him far more unpredictable. Generally, my most common maneuvers were the 3 Bank and the 1 Hard. With my style, a stressed Boba doesn't do what I need it to do. There were games where my key choice was to take reinforce or keep Boba unstressed for the next turn. A white reinforce solves that problem for me. So, unironic yes.

4 hours ago, Biophysical said:

On further consideration, I'm cooling on Angled Deflectors. If it's equivalent price to a shield upgrade, it's a 2 HP swing for a similar defensive mod slot. That's 2 useful occurrences of Reinforce to break even on damage, and that requires an action to do it. 2 uses is not difficult to get, as it could happen in one turn and use a single action. I'm wondering how often you'd rather have the HP and the action to avoid damage or inflict more damage yourself. Points will obviously matter a lot, but the more I headsim, the more it feels like a card with a narrower use than I was originally thinking.

4 hours ago, svelok said:

Norra, Braylen, Redline seem like the major winners, and maybe Poe.

I worked out the math and posted it to the front page. When you compare the odds of getting a certain number of hits through, it's pretty obvious that there's tremendous value on ships with force. You can definitely take more calculated risks on positioning when you know that the odds of massive hits going through are substantially reduced.

I'd add Anakin, Mace, and Obi-Wan to the list of likely winners, and less so the 2-force Jedi pilots. Unclear whether Vader wants this, mostly because you'd have to forgo afterburners and I'm not prepared to do that yet.

Anakin in Y-Wing also seems like a likely winner.

Edit - In my headsim, I wondered if this would be good on TIE/FOs with fanatical. The answer is... unclear. It's slightly worse than a focus on average, but not terribly so. That hides the fact that you're almost certain to take 1 damage (versus 3 incoming hits) as opposed to a focus, where you only take damage 75% of the time. On the other hand, it works on every shot, and you still get your offensive mod, so if prices are fair then it seems like it might be a meta call.

Double Edit - to clarify, prices on FOs are currently terrible, so it's an easy call against this idea right now. If prices drop enough that I can fit more of these, then it's worth revisiting for at least a moment.