7 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

While powerful, I don't think SLAM rises to the level of a problem as it exists in the game right now, but that's because FFG has been careful to keep it from being a problem.

I agree with this, and with Brunas, and thus (I think by the transitive property) with myself (which should not be legal in public). I'm frankly just still really annoyed at FFG for nuking AdvSLAM K-wings (which could have been reined in by several means) while giving even more powerful AdvSLAM (PS/Init aside) to Gunboats in pretty much the same breath. But God help us if there come SLAM-capable ships at I-5 or I-6.

In short, Brunas triggered me. Blame him.

Imagine the world where black 1's charge could be recovered. That's a bad world to live in. IMO there are actually a lot of mechanics tied to inferior platforms that get busted AF as soon as any of those platforms get even remotely good.

27 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

I’m way more concerned for the potential of Sun Fac to be straight cancer.

Yeah... I look at those cards and am trying really hard to see how it's not situationally super broken. Like there are some lists that just don't care, Handbrake Han laughs at your puny attempts to tractor him even if you do get him in arc. But non-PS6 small bases...

18 minutes ago, svelok said:

Which makes me wonder if they shouldn't have found a way to make SLAM happen in the end or system phase.

End phase would have been solidly interesting. That's a rather interesting idea...

11 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

End phase would have been solidly interesting. That's a rather interesting idea...

People would poo-poo it just like 2E Agile Gunner or 1E Gyroscopic Targeting, "but it telegraphs!!!"

43 minutes ago, Jeff Wilder said:

I agree with this, and with Brunas, and thus (I think by the transitive property) with myself (which should not be legal in public). I'm frankly just still really annoyed at FFG for nuking AdvSLAM K-wings (which could have been reined in by several means) while giving even more powerful AdvSLAM (PS/Init aside) to Gunboats in pretty much the same breath. But God help us if there come SLAM-capable ships at I-5 or I-6.

In short, Brunas triggered me. Blame him.

ASLAM wasn't OK so they rebuilt the entire game, but Slave 1 Boba moving after you, changing his dial, and boosting over you to drop a mine on you in the system phase before you ever had a chance to do anything is fine.

I believe the official justification is "it's cool when high initiative stuff does it"

20 minutes ago, kris40k said:

People would poo-poo it just like 2E Agile Gunner or 1E Gyroscopic Targeting, "but it telegraphs!!!"

Oh wait... end phase slam would be stupid for bomb dropping. Nevermind… It does telegraph, but it telegraphs explosives....

19 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

Oh wait... end phase slam would be stupid for bomb dropping. Nevermind… It does telegraph, but it telegraphs explosives....

"RR v1.X: you cannot drop bombs while disarmed"

we did it team, we saved the city

30 minutes ago, Brunas said:

I believe the official justification is "it's cool when high initiative stuff does it"

Your **** right.

38 minutes ago, Brunas said:

I believe the official justification is "it's cool when high initiative stuff does it"

More like, "its cool when one unique ship in the list does it, it sucks when the opponents entire list does it."

Comparing SNR Kylo or Vader vs. Old K-Wings

5 minutes ago, kris40k said:

More like, "its cool when one unique ship in the list does it, it sucks when the opponents entire list does it."

Compare SNR Kylo or Vader vs. Old K-Wings

I agree. Really. What Poe does to those 10 ties in like 20 seconds in TFA. What Vader does to everything in comics and books. Canonically, pilots like that should be gods amongst men. Whether that's good for the game, don't know, not sure if I care.

1 hour ago, svelok said:

But that's an empty solace if you're running a list that doesn't have anything at I5/6...

1 hour ago, svelok said:

empty solace

1 hour ago, svelok said:

empty solace

I think that's the name of the a future list if they ever let me intel agent people again.

I dont know when it happened, but all I really want to run anymore is 200 pointsish Ace Trench Run variants. Movie Aces FTW.

Rebels: 199 Pts

Empire: 198 Pts

First Order: 200 Pts

21 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

I think that's the name of the a future list if they ever let me intel agent people again.

38 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Whether that's good for the game, don't know, not sure if I care.

the playtesters mantra

1 hour ago, Tlfj200 said:

I think that's the name of the a future list if they ever let me intel agent people again.

First Order, get down from there.

Seems like First Order players have started to see the Matrix. What lessons did they learn? What tools are they using?

19 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Seems like First Order players have started to see the Matrix. What lessons did they learn? What tools are they using?

Turns out Tavson and either a SKB or QD create a favorable endgame vs Rebel Beef (most of the meta) for Kylo.

Also...sad Roger Rogers

30 minutes ago, svelok said:

First Order, get down from there.

my favorite part about these graphs is the way they've tried in every way imaginable to make them as unreadable as possible

3 hours ago, svelok said:

"RR v1.X: you cannot drop bombs while disarmed"

we did it team, we saved the city

that does nothing, so it's a very good impression of actual FFG errata.

39 minutes ago, RStan said:

Turns out Tavson and either a SKB or QD create a favorable endgame vs Rebel Beef (most of the meta) for Kylo.

Also...sad Roger Rogers

This. Its basically because Rebel Beef is so popular and Upsilons are hungry. I dont think FO is particularly strong its just useful for the most common matchup.

51 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

This. Its basically because Rebel Beef is so popular and Upsilons are hungry. I dont think FO is particularly strong its just useful for the most common matchup.

25-30% of the time, it works every time.

2 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

Seems like First Order players have started to see the Matrix. What lessons did they learn? What tools are they using?

Play Upsilons.

1 hour ago, Tlfj200 said:

 25-30% of the time, it works every time.

The other 50% of the remaining 70% of the time you basically have to see the matrix against some Aces moving after you or find the aces players that will joust your tavson for no apparent reason. (Hint thats the vast majority of aces players).