3 hours ago, Hiemfire said:Correct, but that isn't what your post states.
I said the token goes away when the bomb would explode, and that it effectively takes this bomb an extra turn to explode?
I might not have spelled it out as clearly, but I’m not entirely sure what the issue with my comment is 😜
2 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:I said the token goes away when the bomb would explode, and that it effectively takes this bomb an extra turn to explode?
I might not have spelled it out as clearly, but I’m not entirely sure what the issue with my comment is 😜
My brain going nuts over wording if anything (implies only the EPB can use the tokens). Too much time lurking in the rules lawyer playground. I'm dropping it. 
2 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:As it's apparently being credited to those that are not Master Architects like myself, I would like to point out that I invented Parking Brake Han in October, practiced it in November, and only did not fly it at Adepticon because the Krayts (namely Chris) told me to fly Jukey Bois instead.
See below proof
This was back in the "REBELS R UNPLAYABLE MY 80 POINT GARVEN DOESN'T WIN" phase.
You walked away with a worlds ticket, can’t say @Brunas was wrong.
How come Rebels get their thematic configs for free, but Separatists have to pay?
Justice for the Rogers. S-Foils should be 3 points or Grappling Struts and Impervium should be free.
6 hours ago, svelok said:While we panic over Jarjar in bomb form...
Anakin w/ Plasma Torps
Padme w/ R2-C4
Gold Squadron Trooper
Gold Squadron Trooper
104th ARC= 200 points
Gold/Gold/104 takes up 92 points, so 108 left for other stuff. Padme around 44-48, Anakin around 60-64?
Ung. That makes me worry that the N-1 will be kind of pricey. They don't seem all that different than an A-Wing, with similar statlines, and access to two actions each turn if they limit themselves to one speed of non-straight maneuvers. Like, I don't think Padme is necessarily worth much more than Jake Farrell, for example. I dunno. Maybe she is. Her ability is going to work pretty well with Juke...
12 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:Gold/Gold/104 takes up 92 points, so 108 left for other stuff. Padme around 44-48, Anakin around 60-64?
Ung. That makes me worry that the N-1 will be kind of pricey. They don't seem all that different than an A-Wing, with similar statlines, and access to two actions each turn if they limit themselves to one speed of non-straight maneuvers. Like, I don't think Padme is necessarily worth much more than Jake Farrell, for example. I dunno. Maybe she is. Her ability is going to work pretty well with Juke...
Man doesn't understand that free evades are good, reeks of Europe.
Edited by jagsbaPerfect time to be out of the internet for a few days. Let's see where the panic is in a week
8 hours ago, jagsba said:Man doesn't understand that free evades are good, reeks of Europe.
Depends on the number of attackers. Free evade is great against one attack. Against several, it's not really better than the A-Wing's 3rd agility die.
The N-1 kinda takes the same amount of damage as an A-Wing, it has the same attack dice as an A-Wing, and it flies about as well as an A-Wing. 🤔
The N-1 does have some advantages. Despite being stuck on 3-4-5 speed moves for Full Throttle, it'll have a much better time at speed 1-2 than a stressed A-Wing pulling a white move. Probably better 1-on-1 since an Evade token is consistent, unlike green dice. A cost a little more than an A-Wing makes sense. I'm not sure a cost a lot more than an A-Wing is warranted.
14 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:The N-1 does have some advantages. Despite being stuck on 3-4-5 speed moves for Full Throttle, it'll have a much better time at speed 1-2 than a stressed A-Wing pulling a white move. Probably better 1-on-1 since an Evade token is consistent, unlike green dice. A cost a little more than an A-Wing makes sense. I'm not sure a cost a lot more than an A-Wing is warranted.
I think you maybe missed that they also have an extra hull? And the valuable astromech slot, too.
An aggressively costed generic might be 30-32 points. A conservatively costed generic, then, maybe 36-37? For the same price, I'd take the N1 over the RZ-1 every time.
Add on 6-8 points for I4 + abilities, and another 6ish points for force charge. Seems about right?
I think the generics will come in at a cost where you can run 5 in a list with few upgrades, or trade one out for higher initiative pilots, upgrades etc.
7 minutes ago, svelok said:I think you maybe missed that they also have an extra hull? And the valuable astromech slot, too.
An aggressively costed generic might be 30-32 points. A conservatively costed generic, then, maybe 36-37? For the same price, I'd take the N1 over the RZ-1 every time.
Add on 6-8 points for I4 + abilities, and another 6ish points for force charge. Seems about right?
I do consider a wide spread between I2 generic prices and named pilot prices fairly likely, since I think the I2 won't have a Talent slot. I could totally see one being around 32 points, so same price as an Init 3 A-Wing. Thta'd feel like a good trade-off. I'd probably go N-1, but Init bumps do have value. And ultimately, I don't see a generic N-1 accomplishing much more on table than a generic A-Wing, even with Torpedo and Droid and Sensor upgrade slots available.
I dunno. Aggressive generics/conservative aces seems to be the way they've priced the Torrent. It might be a wider rather than narrower spread between them than most pilots.
But like, how much more should baby-Anakin be than Luminara Unduli or Saesee Tiin at 44 points? Not much, I figure, if anything. Plasma Torpedoes are worse than Proton Torpedoes but probably better than Concussion, so maybe 9 points? I can't see him with just Plasmas being anything close to worth 60-64 points.
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I guess I just worry that the prices will be a bit high. N-1 are still 2-red ships which can go splat fairly easily. Since FFG clearly messed up badly with the RZ-2 pricing, I'm concerned they'll over-correct with the N-1, make it as overpriced as the RZ-2 is underpriced.
Eh, we'll see soon enough what the list prices are, and then we'll see on table.
11 hours ago, LagJanson said:You walked away with a worlds ticket, can’t say @Brunas was wrong.
But muh architecture
https://inlandempireaces.podbean.com/e/ep-11-system-open-finalist/
I know some were talking about the QuickDraw + 2 FOTP’s, figured you may want to listen.
24 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:But muh architecture
roger... roger...
1 hour ago, Tbetts94 said:https://inlandempireaces.podbean.com/e/ep-11-system-open-finalist/
I know some were talking about the QuickDraw + 2 FOTP’s, figured you may want to listen.
Good listen. This guy gets it. Afterburners on Quickdraw forever.
Hey Kryats, I've listened to your episode (friend told me to, I need to reevaluate this friendship 
)
Among lots of things you're usually wrong about, I need to point one thing: Quinn Jast super fine! I've made top8 SOS with him and Top4 Hungarian Natio (serious stuff).
I've dropped her only to jump onto Talonbane Cobra who is even more fine!
2 minutes ago, Oldpara said:Quinn Jast
Who?
24 minutes ago, Oldpara said:Hey Kryats, I've listened to your episode (friend told me to, I need to reevaluate this friendship
Among lots of things you're usually wrong about, I need to point one thing: Quinn Jast super fine! I've made top8 SOS with him and Top4 Hungarian Natio (serious stuff).
I've dropped her only to jump onto Talonbane Cobra who is even more fine!
To be perfectly honest, I'm going to take this advice and tuck it away some place for future corroboration... I'm willing to bet most of the time you're just out-skilling your opponents regardless of the lead weights you strap on.
6 minutes ago, LagJanson said:To be perfectly honest, I'm going to take this advice and tuck it away some place for future corroboration... I'm willing to bet most of the time you're just out-skilling your opponents regardless of the lead weights you strap on.
I agree that @Oldpara is outplaying people, but I'd also bet a lot of stuff is dismissed outright cuz reasons.
1 minute ago, gennataos said:I agree that @Oldpara is outplaying people, but I'd also bet a lot of stuff is dismissed outright cuz reasons.
A lot of things are often dismissed outright. Word of mouth travels fast and it's easy for Person A to look at something they don't understand and say "that's bad." Now, because most of us are bad at the game, the oddities we bring often ARE bad, but are being dismissed for the wrong reasons. Thus, invalid conclusions that Person A is good at identifying things that are bad perpetuates well beyond into stuff that just needs the right upgrade to unlock it.
Still waiting for the Scyk… My belief is they are still too pricey, but being Extended I'm admittedly not throwing a lot of time into them.
I just think people should try more stuff on the table. I get plenty of folks don't have a lot of play time to do that. I'm not really talking about available time, though. I'm talking about when someone has an idea, whatever forces which influence them says, "No" (be that podcasts/forums/locals), and they don't even try it.
Most of us might be bad at maneuvering and/or headsimming, but most decent to good players can play something and identify in a game or two if they're on to something, even if it doesn't quite work initially.
Edited by gennataosIt was fun listening to fake Frank talk about how he tries to play everything.
1 hour ago, Oldpara said:Hey Kryats, I've listened to your episode (friend told me to, I need to reevaluate this friendship
Among lots of things you're usually wrong about, I need to point one thing: Quinn Jast super fine! I've made top8 SOS with him and Top4 Hungarian Natio (serious stuff).
I've dropped her only to jump onto Talonbane Cobra who is even more fine!
With what load-out?
Just now, PaulRuddSays said:With what load-out?
Clearly, Jamming Beam, the Best Upgrade.