Grey Squadron Y with Ion turret is 35 points and it's hyperspace legal.

I'm ready to start whining

19 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

Grey Squadron Y with Ion turret is 35 points and it's hyperspace legal.

I'm ready to start whining

Check this. Gold squad with ion and selfless is 40 points.

You two forgot to add vet turret gunner. You know, for... Tappa tappa?

9 hours ago, drjkel said:

I mean, it's not like those poor jumpmaster players who had to weather September to now with their iconic ship being massively overpriced and bad when they were used to them always being fair and balanced from the moment they released (or a bit before). It's merely really not good now. They know real pain.

8 hours ago, millertime059 said:

Hahahahahahahahshahaha

deep breath

hahahahahahahahabahaha

Dengaroo with 4 lom and Zuckuss crew remains, by far, the most oppressive unfun thing I’ve ever flown against. I spit on its grave.

Im fine with letting them be played, but they were obscene. And people complaining about a ship with 6 greens and multiple turn around options having a bad dial make me laugh.

I look at the price changes and wonder if they didn’t discount it too much.

You made it through that whole sentence without sensing sarcasm? I'm impressed!

Jumps were a tool ahead of the curve, just like quad juke phantoms were. Being sad that one is nuked but happy that the other was is nonsensical. Having a preference is fine, pretending you're unbiased when your personal flavour of OP is ahead of the curve is ridiculous.

So... been dying to put Rebel A-wings on the table... are they ready yet?

People are really in other threads saying to put heightened perception on Vader. I thought that was just a meme.

3 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

So... been dying to put Rebel A-wings on the table... are they ready yet?

Just now, SnooSnarry said:

People are really in other threads saying to put heightened perception on Vader. I thought that was just a meme.

Do what you want, man.

Just now, Tlfj200 said:

Do what you want, man.

I'll take that as a no...

@LagJanson The As comment is more like "they probably aren't good enough to win system opens, but probably good enough to be generally competitive and have fun, especially at stores.

Heightened Perception Vader though... definitely just do what you want.

4 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

So... been dying to put Rebel A-wings on the table... are they ready yet?

How to build them is the question. Is prockets and crackshot ok? Or can I finally use outmaneuver?

Fifth Brother Phantoms. Is this a trap?

Being a massive Echo fanboy, I was instantly looking at this. But then I realised that shooting without being shot is priority no.1 for me, and not massively hard to achieve. If she is getting shot, that force + focus won't help a great deal, since the job is already botched. So I'm mostly paying 9pt to turn a hit to a crit.

I had a feeling I would not be bothered by a possible slot change...

2 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

How to build them is the question. Is prockets and crackshot ok? Or can I finally use outmaneuver?

Marksmanship + selfless is clearly the only correct choice.

2 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

So I'm mostly paying 9pt to turn a hit to a crit.

You're paying 9 points to change a focus to a crit.. without using your focus token, which could be defensive...

5 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Marksmanship + selfless is clearly the only correct choice.

Four with outmaneuver/crackshot and Wedge. Pretend like those green dice were going to matter. Not like they ever roll paint, right?

@LagJanson @GreenDragoon if one of the main bonuses of the RZ2 AWings was the rear arc and having such a large uptime on shots. Is it worth looking at Leia crew (now 2 pts) on a UWing with a bunch of Awings? Maybe Magva for some protection? I know that would not exactly allow for the linked to boost the turn before if you want actions, but white 5k and 3 sloops seem good. I'm personally not high on the Rebel AWing still, but it's an avenue of potential fun (probably not competitive).

1 minute ago, RStan said:

@LagJanson @GreenDragoon if one of the main bonuses of the RZ2 AWings was the rear arc and having such a large uptime on shots. Is it worth looking at Leia crew (now 2 pts) on a UWing with a bunch of Awings? Maybe Magva for some protection? I know that would not exactly allow for the linked to boost the turn before if you want actions, but white 5k and 3 sloops seem good. I'm personally not high on the Rebel AWing still, but it's an avenue of potential fun (probably not competitive).

By now I see the main bonus in advanced optics to be honest. 1.0 Awings had snapshot for a second attack that could lay in some hurt. RZ2s have AdvOptics to consistently get 2 hits. That's why I gravitate towards outmaneuver/crackshot: if I can't improve my results, I can maybe make yours worse?

Just now, RStan said:

@LagJanson @GreenDragoon if one of the main bonuses of the RZ2 AWings was the rear arc and having such a large uptime on shots. Is it worth looking at Leia crew (now 2 pts) on a UWing with a bunch of Awings? Maybe Magva for some protection? I know that would not exactly allow for the linked to boost the turn before if you want actions, but white 5k and 3 sloops seem good. I'm personally not high on the Rebel AWing still, but it's an avenue of potential fun (probably not competitive).

Honestly... I didn't really see anything strong for the Rebel A-wing. Fun, yes. Win a few games, certainly. That said, I'm hardly a card combo type personality so I may have missed something. I know there's some pretty big A-wing fans in the thread who may have crunched some numbers.

Leia is certainly worth considering, but not sure in an A-wing type list. I've added her to my primary Rebel list. Not sure if it's enough, mind you, since I've lost the spike damage in that list with the points change. (bye torps... )

17 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

You're paying 9 points to change a focus to a crit.. without using your focus token, which could be defensive...

He's not as good as Vader, but I think he is a solid crew choice for either Echo or Whisper.

A-Wings might have a chance to shine if they hit hyperspace in the near future and become the primary filler ship for the Rebel faction. Jake Farrell did just get cheaper and he's got a solid support ability. Combo him with a now cheaper Lando Falcon and you'll have some crazy action efficiency between those two.

3 minutes ago, RStan said:

primary filler ship for the Rebel faction.

Not exactly filler but those B-Wing and K-Wing point changes open up a bunch of new options.

3 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Not exactly filler but those B-Wing and K-Wing point changes open up a bunch of new options.

Of all my saved lists, only one went down in price. I had a joke Hera VCX build with two K-wings with barrage rockets and like a 10 point bid. After the reset it was 19...

5 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

Of all my saved lists, only one went down in price. I had a joke Hera VCX build with two K-wings with barrage rockets and like a 10 point bid. After the reset it was 19...

Speaking of Hera...adding that sensor slot makes me take a look at her again. Nien & Saw crew with Coldet...maybe also dorsal because it's only 2 pts now?

15 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Not exactly filler but those B-Wing and K-Wing point changes open up a bunch of new options.

Bbuaa with Leia has 13 points to play around with, which could be promising.

19 minutes ago, RStan said:

A-Wings might have a chance to shine if they hit hyperspace in the near future and become the primary filler ship for the Rebel faction.

A blocking a-wing would probably do some work in a list. Just pair it with Poe and corran to make final table at world's.

As much as I'd like a filler ship. I'm enjoying how rebels are the only hyperspace faction without one. It adds an additional list building twist.

5 minutes ago, RStan said:

Speaking of Hera...adding that sensor slot makes me take a look at her again. Nien & Saw crew with Coldet...maybe also dorsal because it's only 2 pts now?

Throw on vet gunner now for a double tap. Not sure on the coldet though... this might be a case for fire control? That thing is awful action starved.