3 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Torps cost 3x init, floor 6.

Bleh. Hope they don't go that route. I'd much rather see different upgrades made viable as opposed to the same upgrades made viable (or unplayable) for everyone.

Nevermind

6 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Nevermind

Yeah, 6pt ptorps for low PS would get abused to **** and back using target sync/tarkin/etc

12 minutes ago, prauxim said:

Yeah, 6pt ptorps for low PS would get abused to **** and back using target sync/tarkin/etc

E wing meta would be boring

3 minutes ago, player3010587 said:

E wing meta would be boring

Double torps E-Wings isn't meta now. You can't take 3 Torp i1 E-Wings even at 6 points a Torp and you sort of want R3 with them.

8 minutes ago, player3010587 said:

E wing meta would be boring

But its what the masses want! That and 5x generic lists that are good even with no swarm synergies! Down with ace wing!

/s

40 minutes ago, prauxim said:

Yeah, 6pt ptorps for low PS would get abused to **** and back using target sync/tarkin/etc

There were some Jendon + Bomber + Proton Torp lists out there. They didn't have huge success, but they were something you couldn't be an idiot about. I'd probably be a little more worried about some T70's or SF's running it though. They have a stack of shields to chew through before you scratch any paint on them.

29 minutes ago, prauxim said:

5x generic lists that are good even with no swarm synergies! Down with ace wing!

/s

This, but no /s

1 minute ago, jagsba said:

This, but no /s

Have you actually tried it? 5x Kupercalafajalistickespialadojus-fighters is a snooze fest. It's more like a 3-round can-you-avoid-the-joust mini-game than an actual match.

4x Ewing is quick build legal and much the same.

6 hours ago, gennataos said:

I get what people are saying about getting in more reps, how their list isn't likely to be impacted, etc. But...we don't really know. We don't know if Boba and proton torps are gunna be gutted. We don't know if First Order and Resistance is going to go untouched. I feel, when facing stuff assumed to be impacted, while playing my own stuff assumed to not be impacted, my choices are informed a lot by that disparity. Then I wonder if that game really taught me anything.

So I had my league game tonight. You know what's really not cool as matchup for 5 Awings? BobaGuri

It was a great game though, and ended very tight. It was also one of those that were very unlikely.

I feel you now a bit more though

Boba is a major sucky experience if you can't melt him at range. He cuts to range 1 with a reinforce and two focus tokens...bleh. You are sitting on a focus. Roll hit hit, eye eye. Uhg. Spend the focus. He re-rolls into evade and a focus. Spends a focus. Takes one damage because of reinforce. Then just murders the **** out of you in return.

Just now, viedit said:

He cuts to range 1 with a reinforce and two focus tokens...bleh.

I take it the Reinforce is Coordinated to him before he moves?

Just now, Hiemfire said:

I take it the Reinforce is Coordinated to him before he moves?

Yeah. I think if you aren't bringing Lando or L3 craft along for the ride you are Boba'ing wrong.

41 minutes ago, prauxim said:

Have you actually tried it? 5x Kupercalafajalistickespialadojus-fighters is a snooze fest. It's more like a 3-round can-you-avoid-the-joust mini-game than an actual match.

4x Ewing is quick build legal and much the same.

Neat.

7 minutes ago, viedit said:

Yeah. I think if you aren't bringing Lando or L3 craft along for the ride you are Boba'ing wrong.

We talking hyperspace? Most extended top table lists didn't run EC, probably due to lack of synergy with Han's stress.

Though, if Han gets a sizable bump and IG/Dengar don't it'll be great along-side Boba/IG/Dengar.

6 hours ago, gennataos said:

Like I said, I'm not looking to convince anyone of anything, nor am I going to be convinced of anything. I was just curious if anyone else felt the same way. Feels like a mini "play 1.0 with 2.0 days away" kind of vibe to me. That might be an over exaggeration, but feels like that.

nah, I agree. Upcoming points is great, the games the week before them just feel silly.

2 hours ago, prauxim said:

Bleh. Hope they don't go that route. I'd much rather see different upgrades made viable as opposed to the same upgrades made viable (or unplayable) for everyone.

This. Something like variable points for munitions is dumb because it changes the standard game of list building, which is find maximize value from upgrades and pilots, to a weird game of exploit variable pricing to get WAY more value out of things than anyone intends.

6 point proton torps? enjoy my jendon swarm. Or like someone already mentioned, targeting sync would be even better. No thanks!

58 minutes ago, prauxim said:

We talking hyperspace? Most extended top table lists didn't run EC, probably due to lack of synergy with Han's stress.

Though, if Han gets a sizable bump and IG/Dengar don't it'll be great along-side Boba/IG/Dengar.

Being as he mentioned double Focus + Reinforce I'm thinking Hyperspace. Perceptive Co-Pilot is nearly pointless on Boba in Extended with 88-D as an option.

57 minutes ago, Brunas said:

nah, I agree. Upcoming points is great, the games the week before them just feel silly.

This seems like a pretty decent argument that announcing a date for a points-change isn't the way to go. A grace period -- "New points go into effect on the 14th day following an update" -- seems like it would be better.

Surely a 14-day (minimum) build-and-practice time wouldn't be too onerous for the X-Wing pros?

30 minutes ago, Brunas said:

This. Something like variable points for munitions is dumb because it changes the standard game of list building, which is find maximize value from upgrades and pilots, to a weird game of exploit variable pricing to get WAY more value out of things than anyone intends.

Isn't the standard game of list building exploit pricing to get way more value out of things than anyone intends?

Why do we assume that a well implemented variable pricing breaks the game gives rise to greater exploits.

Their current variable pricing, shield and hull, seem to be well thought out, and prevent them from settling on the enlightened centrism tactic of making it trash for some ships and godly on others.

30 minutes ago, Brunas said:

6 point proton torps? enjoy my jendon swarm. Or like someone already mentioned, targeting sync would be even better. No thanks!

6pts with current bomber prices is redonk. U rite.

1 hour ago, Brunas said:

6 point proton torps? enjoy my jendon swarm. Or like someone already mentioned, targeting sync would be even better. No thanks!

In all reality, if you're taking I2 stuff to do this instead of I5/I6, cool. Jendon Bomber Swarms aren't super scary right now, 3 points less for the torp isn't changing that.

Floor protons at 9, 10, whatever.

The point was that at 18 you actually have to think about Torps on poe.

4 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Floor protons at 9, 10, whatever.

The point was that at 18 you actually have to think about Torps on poe.

I didn't bring Poe to think

50 minutes ago, jagsba said:

I didn't bring Poe to think

Poe is brought to joust.

23 hours ago, LagJanson said:

Random Star Wars picture...

Ela and Zophia flying a k wing?

32 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Ela and Zophia flying a k wing?

Pretty random. Honestly I just saw the Kwing, which is actually pretty rare in artwork.