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5 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:How long until the Wedge discussion is repeated with Poe?
In my few games against him, the correct choice was always to take him down first: he's generally hitting hardest compared to his durability
I wouldn't participate, but I don't mind reading people being wrong
6 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:How long until the Wedge discussion is repeated with Poe?
In my few games against him, the correct choice was always to take him down first: he's generally hitting hardest compared to his durability
I mean, the right answer is to kill him, but it SHOULDNT be that easy due to black one...
...that said...
5 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:I mean, the right answer is to kill him, but it SHOULDNT be that easy due to black one...
...that said...
...if I'm using Black One, I'm not shooting what I want dead!!! I don't like it, but I guess I just have to joust.
6 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:I mean, the right answer is to kill him, but it SHOULDNT be that easy due to black one...
...that said...
I mean... come on 
8 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:I mean, the right answer is to kill him, but it SHOULDNT be that easy due to black one...
...that said...
2 minutes ago, LagJanson said:...if I'm using Black One, I'm not shooting what I want dead!!! I don't like it, but I guess I just have to joust.
I'm barely even using Black One (incorrect, I know, trying to fix), he's almost always the primary target, and he still doesn't die very often.
Truth be told, in Poe/Nien/whatever lists, there are a lot of matchups where Nien is way scarier.
1 minute ago, gennataos said:
I'm barely even using Black One (incorrect, I know, trying to fix), he's almost always the primary target, and he still doesn't die very often.
Truth be told, in Poe/Nien/whatever lists, there are a lot of matchups where Nien is way scarier.
Those T70s are pretty durable. Most of the time it feels like they'll carry you out of one mistake.
And I'll agree, there are scenarios where Nien is a nightmare and dumb. Poe can just do whatever he wants though in almost any scenario, not relying on being close. He's usually worth more points too... I like Nien with Poe however for the very reason you highlight.
2 minutes ago, gennataos said:Truth be told, in Poe/Nien/whatever lists, there are a lot of matchups where Nien is way scarier.
That's the difficulty of that list. Poe "should" be your #1 target, but if your opponent has any idea what they "should" be doing, he won't be a viable target available since he won't be in actual threat in the early game. On top of that, you REALLY don't want that Nien to make it to the mid game to do his shenanigans. So unless the opponent is dumb and just gives you Poe, the better target is normally Nien because it still takes away a solid amount of points and a Proton Torp carrier.
6 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:How long until the Wedge discussion is repeated with Poe?
In my few games against him, the correct choice was always to take him down first: he's generally hitting hardest compared to his durability
Haha, I've had the opposite experience. If he offers himself up to be blocked, I'm in, but black one means that should basically never happen and if you block him they deserved it.
1 minute ago, RStan said:That's the difficulty of that list. Poe "should" be your #1 target, but if your opponent has any idea what they "should" be doing, he won't be a viable target available since he won't be in actual threat in the early game. On top of that, you REALLY don't want that Nien to make it to the mid game to do his shenanigans. So unless the opponent is dumb and just gives you Poe, the better target is normally Nien because it still takes away a solid amount of points and a Proton Torp carrier.
Huh. Maybe I am jousting with him, cuz I always have Poe as an early threat. #selfexamine
Who's bringing proton torps? Oh...people who want to win before 1/28/19. Well...whatever.... 
What’s everyone’s opinions on Kevin Lientz’ Poe? I’ve tried it a few times and have liked it. I don’t put Ferrosphere Paint on, but it’s more of a local meta call. Not a lot of proton torps, there’s more Swarms and I haven’t faced other Poe’s at all.
Testing some Hypersoace stuff on Monday. What’s in this Triple Upsilon build that everyone is so hot about?
Just now, Quack Shot said:What’s everyone’s opinions on Kevin Lientz’ Poe? I’ve tried it a few times and have liked it. I don’t put Ferrosphere Paint on, but it’s more of a local meta call. Not a lot of proton torps, there’s more Swarms and I haven’t faced other Poe’s at all.
I agree with his assessment that with a highly skilled player with a lot of reps, his Poe could have a higher ceiling. I just haven't found BB-8 is efficient enough for the points and Ferropshere Paint strikes me as more of a meta-dependent tech choice. I've tried Poe + 3 A-Wings a lot and don't think the A-Wings bring enough punch nor meat, leaving a lot of work for Poe. I prefer XXAA, which you can reach with his Poe, but they'd all be generics and objectively worse than what I'm running right now.
Poe has access to a "native" barrel roll now, which I also think lends itself to making BB-8 less relevant. I'd love to be that BB-8 Poe player again, I just don't see it fitting in an efficient list.
4 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:Testing some Hypersoace stuff on Monday. What’s in this Triple Upsilon build that everyone is so hot about?
There are some variants with Advanced Sensors, but this is what I've faced, I think. It goes where ever it wants.
Starkiller Base Pilot (56)
Hyperspace Tracking Data (2)
Collision Detector (5)
Lieutenant Tavson (62)
Hyperspace Tracking Data (2)
Collision Detector (5)
Lieutenant Dormitz (60)
Hyperspace Tracking Data (2)
Collision Detector (5)
Total: 199
37 minutes ago, gennataos said:Huh. Maybe I am jousting with him, cuz I always have Poe as an early threat. #selfexamine
Who's bringing proton torps? Oh...people who want to win before 1/28/19. Well...whatever....
I think the biggest issue with people who play him is that jousting is generally wrong unless you range control well and people don't flank as well as they think (myself included). You honestly can't go wrong in this game by bringing a squad that at least has a piece that jousts really well.
18 minutes ago, gennataos said:I agree with his assessment that with a highly skilled player with a lot of reps, his Poe could have a higher ceiling.
I'm still just laughing at supernatural reflexes/pre-nerf whisper being described as hard and high skill.
That being said, bb8 appears you need primed stapled, and primed also costs a billion points, so at least it's expensive enough to not be stapled?
41 minutes ago, Quack Shot said:What’s everyone’s opinions on Kevin Lientz’ Poe? I’ve tried it a few times and have liked it. I don’t put Ferrosphere Paint on, but it’s more of a local meta call. Not a lot of proton torps, there’s more Swarms and I haven’t faced other Poe’s at all.
I've played against Poe more than with Poe, but if someone is paying more points in order to not use Poe's ability (if you're stressed you can't use BB8) in exchange for a twice a game funny move, fine. Not the decision I would make, though.
15 hours ago, SnooSnarry said:Are we going to talk about how people keep trying to build lists to out joust Tavson, but every game the initial joust happens and the non upsilon player always ends up like
The thing that triggers me is that Poe still does outjoust Generic Strikers, point-for-point.
3 minutes ago, Brunas said:I'm still just laughing at supernatural reflexes/pre-nerf whisper being described as hard and high skill.
That being said, bb8 appears you need primed stapled, and primed also costs a billion points, so at least it's expensive enough to not be stapled?
It's high skill in that it takes more insight than just 1-straighting to victory. Make of that what you will.
1 minute ago, Brunas said:I'm still just laughing at supernatural reflexes/pre-nerf whisper being described as hard and high skill.
That being said, bb8 appears you need primed stapled, and primed also costs a billion points, so at least it's expensive enough to not be stapled?
It being an 86 point combo w/Title is probably why people shy away from it. For sure a case of FFG pricing cards correctly-ish. BB8 is great, but you are sinking in a ton of points for a two-time trick with a high burden of execution - with the only reason it being a high burden of execution is that it has two charges. Imagine if SNR could only be used twice a game?
52 minutes ago, Brunas said:Haha, I've had the opposite experience. If he offers himself up to be blocked, I'm in, but black one means that should basically never happen and if you block him they deserved it.
3 out of 4 games had a great Poe player. But one completely took me by surprise with BlackOne! Such a cool move to 3blue into tallon roll.
But otherwise it works out like this: I underestimate the speed, eat a proton torp. That can't destroy an awing because heroic. After, we joust, or rather I do out the rear arc because guess what, the joust isn't over just because you can't shoot anymore. And then or the turn after Poe is near dead or already gone.
3 minutes ago, Biophysical said:It's high skill in that it takes more insight than just 1-straighting to victory. Make of that what you will.
I don't have a good counterargument...
5 minutes ago, Biophysical said:It's high skill in that it takes more insight than just 1-straighting to victory. Make of that what you will.
i'd argue non-BB8 is way higher skill, since you don't get pre-dial moves.
As for black one - it's a one-time "eject" ripcord: do a 2 or 3-speed maneuver, and you can do another maneuver, then boost after. Arc: Dodged.
1 minute ago, Brunas said:I don't have a good counterargument...
If my end-state 1.0 assessment is roughly accurate:
If Lothal/Fenn < FSR2 < Nym-Miranda < Timewalk < Dash/Poe < AS Kylo (1.0 SNR) < everything else, than SNR feels high skill compared to the lion's share of X-wing people are familiar with.
The point increase to make your generic Bounty Hunter into Boba fett is 3 points lower than the cost to make an Academy into Howl or Iden.
The cost to go from i1 to i3 on a striker is the same to go from i3 to i5 (and get Duchess's ability) on a Striker.
Naked, Boba costs less than naked Kylo.
What the **** man.