Just now, Sunitsa said:

I haven't played it so take it with a grain of salt, but... In which world is Nien better than Wedge? I don't want to get lost in the wedge rabbit hole again, but I can't see how their ability are comparable without even taking into consideration ps6

Mostly because Nien, once close, is pretty dumb.

You k or talon behind and take 2-3 actions thanks to pattern analyzer. So he regularly shoots TL+focus, and is very, very hard to shake.

You gotta get him there, but yeah.

Just now, gennataos said:

I, uh. Huh. I'd suggest trying it before passing judgement.

2 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

Yeah like I said it wasn't a bad thing per se, considering the whole faction doesn't look so exciting. The issue is I am playing extend.

I haven't played it so take it with a grain of salt, but... In which world is Nien better than Wedge? I don't want to get lost in the wedge rabbit hole again, but I can't see how their ability are comparable without even taking into consideration ps6

Lulo is comparable with Sabine. I prefer sabine because she's doesn't need to setup to get her 3rd red dice and with comparable setup could end up with focus evade, but Lulo is good too.

Poe is strong thought, supnat Luke is strong too

Also, do NOT JOUST with this list.

It doesn' joust (I mean, you can joust with anything), but it'll be terrible.


You literally approach from 3 directions. If Nien moves first, he ks or talons with known positions to guarantee he gets pilot ability; if second, he's just a super arc dodger.

Poe just threatens to redline whatever, and can bail with black one the moment a list turns in on him (make sure you're going 3+ speeds... 2 is acceptable. 1-speeds are not).

Lulo is who you want them to turn on (as they can clearly "pick 1" if you approach from 3 directions) because he's cheap. If they turn in, you don't double move (or maybe you do, whatever). If he dies, he's cheap, and it allowed poe and Nien to get into position. If they turn in elsewhere, boost into range with focus and chuck dice.

It's an ace list - do not joust.

3 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

I haven't played it so take it with a grain of salt, but... In which world is Nien better than Wedge? I don't want to get lost in the wedge rabbit hole again, but I can't see how their ability are comparable without even taking into consideration ps6

I think you might be missing how nien/pattern analyzer interact now.

Nien can talon roll, take a focus action, then linked roll (getting a stress), then clearing it by having you at range 1 as well as the talon roll stress. Then he gets his regular perform action step action to lock to throw out double modded proton torps. It's more than a little silly.

That being said, do you have any kind of choice for matchups or anything? This is also decent, but less interesting if you into upgrades and combos:

Poe Dameron (68)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

Ello Asty (56)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

L'ulo L'ampar (38)

Tallissan Lintra (35)

Total: 199

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2 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Nien can talon roll, take a focus action, then linked roll (getting a stress)

Wait, doesn't Pattern Analyser only allow you take a single action off its trigger (as it specifies '1 action')?

Or this. I kind of have a crush on Bastian. Fly Zari as a wingmate for Bastian and do whatever you want. #blockingmatters #exceptagainstbobacuzPOINTSNOW

Poe Dameron (68)
Heroic (1)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Black One (2)
Hardpoint: Cannon (0)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)

Lieutenant Bastian (48)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

L'ulo L'ampar (38)
Heroic (1)
Trick Shot (1)

Zari Bangel (35)

Total: 200

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1 minute ago, __underscore__ said:

Wait, doesn't Pattern Analyser only allow you take a single action off its trigger (as it specifies '1 action')?

Pattern analyzer just gives you an action - it doesn't have the text advanced sensors does (no more actions during your activation). You can still do linked actions from it, or use Poe's ability, etc.

1 minute ago, __underscore__ said:

Wait, doesn't Pattern Analyser only allow you take a single action off its trigger (as it specifies '1 action')?

In the same manner that you're only allowed one action during your perform action step. Trust that it works, it's been discussed elsewhere.

3 minutes ago, __underscore__ said:

Wait, doesn't Pattern Analyser only allow you take a single action off its trigger (as it specifies '1 action')?

Nien's ability allows you to get rid of the stress once you receive it if you have an enemy ship in his arc at range 1. Which btw, getting the stress doesn't occur until after you complete the action from pattern analyzer. So Nien can kturn or talon, boost or barrel roll (if wings closed) and get rid of the stress (or all if linked barrel roll to focus) after his reposition. Then just go on his merry way and take his normal action.

1 minute ago, __underscore__ said:

Wait, doesn't Pattern Analyser only allow you take a single action off its trigger (as it specifies '1 action')?

Pattern doesn't have that last bit of language.

because of that, any time you get an action, you can linked off it (if able).

Oh nice. Pre-Point Adjustment Hypothetical Hyperspace Format Squad Building Sub-Forum!

Bad Idea #1028

I am having alot of fun testing lists in Hyperspace even without having points knowledge.

I guess Resistance & FO Ships/Pilots/Unique Upgrades are unlikely to change in cost.

I like 3-4 Ship Resistance better than 2 Ship Resistance but its still useful for testing.

Nice, I think I caught everyone taking a dump break at the same time.

Just now, __underscore__ said:

Nice, I think I caught everyone taking a dump break at the same time.

heading out to lunch just now 😛

HLC Poe for improving before possible torp points adjustments. Torp Poe for pre-points adjustments tournament and/or disappointing post-points adjustment.

1 minute ago, __underscore__ said:

Nice, I think I caught everyone taking a dump break at the same time.

Waiting on renders to finish on the render farm and a file to save. The waiting game gives me lots of time...

2 minutes ago, __underscore__ said:

Nice, I think I caught everyone taking a dump break at the same time.

Rest of team travelling, nothing to do but keep my chair from flying away.

3 minutes ago, __underscore__ said:

Nice, I think I caught everyone taking a dump break at the same time.

angry at a server and...

2 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

heading out to lunch just now 😛

6 minutes ago, __underscore__ said:

Nice, I think I caught everyone taking a dump break at the same time.

Thats when all the best Resistance List building is accomplished.

36 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

Also, do NOT JOUST with this list.

It doesn' joust (I mean, you can joust with anything), but it'll be terrible.


You literally approach from 3 directions. If Nien moves first, he ks or talons with known positions to guarantee he gets pilot ability; if second, he's just a super arc dodger.

Poe just threatens to redline whatever, and can bail with black one the moment a list turns in on him (make sure you're going 3+ speeds... 2 is acceptable. 1-speeds are not).

Lulo is who you want them to turn on (as they can clearly "pick 1" if you approach from 3 directions) because he's cheap. If they turn in, you don't double move (or maybe you do, whatever). If he dies, he's cheap, and it allowed poe and Nien to get into position. If they turn in elsewhere, boost into range with focus and chuck dice.

It's an ace list - do not joust.

Thanks for the insight, it's appreciated

I don't see many difference from how Wedge Luke Sabine should be played thought, you don't want to joust with them either, but again that's not a negative per se

35 minutes ago, Brunas said:

I think you might be missing how nien/pattern analyzer interact now.

Nien can talon roll, take a focus action, then linked roll (getting a stress), then clearing it by having you at range 1 as well as the talon roll stress. Then he gets his regular perform action step action to lock to throw out double modded proton torps. It's more than a little silly.

That being said, do you have any kind of choice for matchups or anything? This is also decent, but less interesting if you into upgrades and combos:

Poe Dameron (68)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

Ello Asty (56)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

L'ulo L'ampar (38)

Tallissan Lintra (35)

Total: 199

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Nien sounds an interesting stressbot cosplayer here, I didn't consider the chance of a double stress. How often does it come online in your experience?

Yes we will have a relative control of the matchup since we will do pairings like in the ETC, but if I were to go with 4 ships probably I would go with 4 t70 or Poe, 2 t70 and 1 A.

EDIT: also I can't imagine playing Poe with black one: that slam is the most fun I had with xwing recently

30 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Or this. I kind of have a crush on Bastian. Fly Zari as a wingmate for Bastian and do whatever you want. #blockingmatters #exceptagainstbobacuzPOINTSNOW

Poe Dameron (68)
Heroic (1)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Black One (2)
Hardpoint: Cannon (0)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)

Lieutenant Bastian (48)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

L'ulo L'ampar (38)
Heroic (1)
Trick Shot (1)

Zari Bangel (35)

Total: 200

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0

I like bastian too, he sounds a great M9G8 carrier

6 minutes ago, Sunitsa said:

Yes we will have a relative control of the matchup since we will do pairings like in the ETC, but if I were to go with 4 ships probably I would go with 4 t70 or Poe, 2 t70 and 1 A

I've played this and thought it was pretty good. It's what led to my Poe/L'ulo/Zari/Bastian list above. It's hard to argue for a second BSR over L'ulo and more points to spread around.

Poe Dameron (68)
Heroic (1)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Black One (2)

Blue Squadron Rookie (46)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

Blue Squadron Rookie (46)
Integrated S-Foils (0)

Tallissan Lintra (35)

Total: 200

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I just realized Nien doesn't pass the stress, he just remove it.

The dream is over boys

If it is a team tournament, and you do the pairing thing, targeting synchronizer Poe and three homing Missile a-wings and try to get paired against ace lists.

I’m not sure if it is good overall, but it has some really good matchups.

Missile Ordinance feels like the Ordinance that has the most potential to be Video Game accurate/thematic.

Itd be cool to see a Missile that only does damage to Hull when Shields are down and otherwise does 1 shield damage.

Like 1:22 of this where it hits the ship but only shields.

Also Independence Day is an amazing nearly perfect movie.

11 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Missile Ordinance

Missile Ordinances are the best.

"9.32.010 Shooting arrows or missiles.

Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, no person shall within the incorporated limits of the City shoot any arrow or similar missile and no person, firm or corporation shall cause or permit any arrow or similar missile to be shot at any place within 200 yards of any public highway, private street used by the general public, recreational area, park, riding and hiking trail, dwelling house, camp or place of human habitation, except when the arrow is shot from and at all times remains on or over, and lands upon, private property or portion thereof, when permission has been granted by the property owner. (Ord. 93 § 1, 1966)"

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