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@catachanninja Bob is returning in spirit through Finch Dallow.

" ... drop a bomb, you ... play area touching ... instead. "

I can't find the image that shows that, but I've seen it before when the resistance conversion kit was first announced and that's what YASB says.

2 minutes ago, RStan said:

@catachanninja Bob is returning in spirit through Finch Dallow.

" ... drop a bomb, you ... play area touching ... instead. "

I can't find the image that shows that, but I've seen it before when the resistance conversion kit was first announced and that's what YASB says.

BOB LIVES WITH US IN SPIRIT

23 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Also, here's the chasis points spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZkUA8AttcXyaVJMCSQFaOu_26WxdV6PXAEqs9grBFa0/

Still surprises me how mostly reasonable the increase in prices are all the way down the sheet, other than a few.

I'll be adding a faction + initiative columns for number crunching and list building.

3 minutes ago, Brunas said:

BOB LIVES WITH US IN SPIRIT

BOB LIVES IN DEATH

35 minutes ago, viedit said:

I'll be adding a faction + initiative columns for number crunching and list building.

did I leave it publicly editable? Or did you mean like make a clone?

if it's publicly editable and not vandalized to be unusable I'll be both impressed and disappointed...

1 minute ago, Brunas said:

did I leave it publicly editable? Or did you mean like make a clone?

if it's publicly editable and not vandalized to be unusable I'll be both impressed and disappointed...

Well, now they HAVE to, so you're not disappointed.

3 minutes ago, Brunas said:

did I leave it publicly editable? Or did you mean like make a clone?

if it's publicly editable and not vandalized to be unusable I'll be both impressed and disappointed...

1 minute ago, Tlfj200 said:

Well, now they HAVE to, so you're not disappointed.

Um.... gimme a second... I forgot to check something in the list...

Not editable. Make a copy for personal abuse only.

1 hour ago, Dreadai said:

New content from Gate of storms.

http://xwing.gateofstorms.net/2/ship_durability/

enjoy

stiker math seems off. There's no way a ship with 1 less AGI and the same HP is that small of a difference off of an A-wing. Also simulating a 4 hull, 2 agi ship gives very different numbers

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2 hours ago, Dreadai said:

New content from Gate of storms.

http://xwing.gateofstorms.net/2/ship_durability/

enjoy

also, until crits are considered, b wings and reapers are functionally the same (8hp behind 1 agi).

Am I totally overvaluing the effect of a direct damage via bombs and the stat altering affect it has on swarms? Because it seems like being able to lob in a proton (or seismic) and forcing Iden to trigger outside of the combat phase feels key to being able to burn Howl down in one round. If you have 3, 3 dice attack ships with a focus you are looking at 4+ shots to take out Howl with Iden. If Iden has been spent that number drops a little below 3 shots.

14 minutes ago, viedit said:

Am I totally overvaluing the effect of a direct damage via bombs and the stat altering affect it has on swarms? Because it seems like being able to lob in a proton (or seismic) and forcing Iden to trigger outside of the combat phase feels key to being able to burn Howl down in one round. If you have 3, 3 dice attack ships with a focus you are looking at 4+ shots to take out Howl with Iden. If Iden has been spent that number drops a little below 3 shots.

I’m not sure you’re overvaluing it. Seems bad for the swarm, and a lot of other ships.

The hard part to process is that the 1 point of bomb damage is more valuable in that situation than a 4th, 3 dice gun with a focus. This one is a bit unique because of the low health of a tie and lack of shields. It's one of the few situations where it's that powerful.

Well bombs are a pretty direct counter to swarms now, at least thrown bombs.

8 hours ago, Npmartian said:

Wow. Against a Howl+7, you have ONLY a 45% chance to die. You are expected to take 9(!) shots to kill.

Check out a Firespray with reinforce. It takes 10 shots for even a non 0% chance to die. The interesting part is that Boba is better off at range two with a reinforce instead of range one with a reinforce plus rerolls.

This is such a cool tool, thanks for putting it together!

5 minutes ago, Scott Pilgrim2 said:

Check out a Firespray with reinforce. It takes 10 shots for even a non 0% chance to die. The interesting part is that Boba is better off at range two with a reinforce instead of range one with a reinforce plus rerolls.

Reinforce is still good, but damage can still be pushed though with good dice. You won't die, though.

37 minutes ago, viedit said:

The hard part to process is that the 1 point of bomb damage is more valuable in that situation than a 4th, 3 dice gun with a focus. This one is a bit unique because of the low health of a tie and lack of shields. It's one of the few situations where it's that powerful.

What type of low ship count stuff can semi-reliably beat good swarms without bombs?

As an example...

Soontir Fel — TIE Interceptor 52
Lone Wolf 4
Stealth Device *
Ship Total: 64
"Whisper" — TIE Phantom 52
Juke 4
Darth Vader 14
Ship Total: 70
"Duchess" — TIE Striker 42
Juke 4
Fifth Brother 12
Ship Total: 58

Howl takes around 2-3 damage? Probably survives on 1 hull?

Do you need more than 2 full health ships to finish off the rest of a swarm once Howl is dead?

Its alot of blocks to avoid and Soontir is pretty much afraid of 2 tie fighters now, same as Duchess. Seems like a reasonable matchup though.

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2 minutes ago, Npmartian said:

Reinforce is still good, but damage can still be pushed though with good dice. You won't die, though.

Even though it got nerfed, it is a massive upgrade for the zero agility ships. A VCX against a Howlswarm will take 13+ shots to kill.