Just now, RStan said:Maybe the bolded part is the keyword because if the template doesn't exist, it can't be used.
I can build one... 
Carolina Krayts is the best X-Wing podcast
Yeah, same ruling as Ved Foslo.
3 minutes ago, RStan said: Maybe the bolded part is the key phrase because if the template doesn't exist, it can't be used.
Curled Paw to the rescue!
2 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:first 2.0 game.
Soontir/Whisper/Quiz...leaves a suprising amt of room for Supernatural/FCS and a solid Crew choice. Felt pretty easy to use against low ship count lists.
Vader/Soontir + whatever 3rd ship you want also has its appeal but I only used it once with a Tie Bomber so no idea where to go with that yet.
On the scum side im still sifting through Guri/Fenn + ( Old T or Kavil or Talonbane or IG88 or something )...etc.
I keep bouncing back and forth between mini generic striker swarms and these aces lists.
Soooooooo many different options. I find myself gradually moving towards 4 ship mixed ace/generic Imperial lists.
Edited by Boom Owl@Boom Owl I as well am leaning towards 4+ ship Imperial lists . Mainly 4 ships + Whisper or Soontir varying Strikers or Barrage Bombers. If not 4+ ship list, it's 2 Aces plus Sai varying crew depending on what I'm trying to accomplish. I've never been an Imperial guy....in 2nd Ed, I'm very likely to be an Imperial FANATIC.
Edited by RStan7 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:
Soooooooo many different options. I find myself gradually moving towards 4 ship mixed ace/generic Imperial lists.
Completely agree on the crazy amount of options.
Btw for 4 ship lists there’s no need to mix Aces and generics - you can fit 4 pocket Aces into the list (which is a bit hillarious).
Soontir, Whisper, Duchess, Countdown - each flavored with EPT of choice comfortably fits 200 points 
10 minutes ago, RStan said:@Boom Owl I as well am leaning towards 4+ ship Imperial lists . Mainly 4 ships + Whisper or Soontir varying Strikers or Barrage Bombers. If not 4+ ship list, it's 2 Aces plus Sai varying crew depending on what I'm trying to accomplish. I've never been an Imperial guy....in 2nd Ed, I'm very likely to be an Imperial FANATIC.
You can so easily fit 3 relatively high initiative imperial ships and a 4th solid generic...lots of options.
I love the new Lambda but I keep shying away from 2 Ace + Lamda, its one of those archetypes that I am content to just let other people experiment with for now.
Edited by Boom Owl3 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Soontir/Whisper/Quiz...leaves a suprising amt of room for Supernatural/FCS and a solid Crew choice. Felt pretty easy to use against low ship count lists.
That's where my first reaction went. But I don't know, I don't particularly like 2.0 Quiz. Btw, can you supernatural boost into linked focus? Because that would change it quite a bit... I know Vader can due to his ability. But I don't know whether "Boost" and "Boost -> Focus" counts as the same for supernatural reflexes.
And as mentioned, a Shuttle/Crew carrier is an alternative for me. Sai+CienaRee is something I will definitely try! Also didn't get to the Miniswarm yet. Probably 3-4 Strikers, but could also be 4 Interceptors, or 4+ TIE fighters.
Punishers and Reapers are medium now, right? Time to git gud then
Just now, GreenDragoon said:can you supernatural boost into linked focus?
You sure can. It's silly.
3 minutes ago, gennataos said:You sure can. It's silly.
Huh.
That changes things. Hello TAP, how could I ever have doubted you?!
1 hour ago, Brunas said:I don't think you need bombs - even just advanced sensors proton torps redline seems great. Maybe don't even need the advanced sensors.
If you have the points AS is great on Redline, but just Redline plus a munition is your baseline.
56 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:Huh.
That changes things. Hello TAP, how could I ever have doubted you?!
It’s intriguing combo, but TIE Phantom / Whisper still seems like a strictly better option, all things considered..
Edited by baranidloSmall base half points changes so much about X-Wing.
3 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:Small base half points changes so much about X-Wing.
We could see some very different scores in the future... Not sure I like it, but... Well, we have it
I just want winning by a tiny amount of MOV to not matter as much.
Like they have it in Armada (page 9):
Edited by Kieransi15 minutes ago, Kieransi said:I just want winning by a tiny amount of MOV to not matter as much.
Like they have it in Armada (page 9):
Were you here when wins by less than 12 points didn’t count for as much?
It wasn’t loved.
3 minutes ago, Kdubb said:Were you here when wins by less than 12 points didn’t count for as much?
It wasn’t loved.
Yeah, I've played the game for a long time... I remember when wins were 3 point and draws were 1. I had a friend who was such a slow player that he always drew all three rounds in Swiss and never made the cut.
There's always going to be a problem with whatever solution you pick, but I don't like the system of pure W/L based on MOV, because although MOV is a good tiebreaker, it seems overly punitive to straight-up lose a game because of 5 or so MOV points.
1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:Small base half points changes so much about X-Wing.
I keep winning games, despite thinking I’d lost long ago with no hope. It’s weird.
2 hours ago, gennataos said:I keep winning games, despite thinking I’d lost long ago with no hope. It’s weird.
I'm just happy that 2.0 is going to be a clown fiesta for the rest of the year and we have a few months before any large 2.0 events that aren't invite only. No consequences in a game that is supposed to have more of them!
Save the thread (from page 2), save the dream!
On 8/11/2018 at 9:46 AM, Tlfj200 said:I honestly haven't looked at much outside of wave 1.
I'm not sure how excited I actually am for not-wave 1.
Based on forum discussion and what everyone is playing locally, it feels like those of us only looking at wave 1 are in the vast minority. I both get it and don't get it at the same time.
2 minutes ago, gennataos said:Based on forum discussion and what everyone is playing locally, it feels like those of us only looking at wave 1 are in the vast minority. I both get it and don't get it at the same time.
"All his life has he looked away…to the future, to the horizon."
Most of us are as weak as Yoda thought we would be
I actually have started trying to think about Wave 1 only just because I'm expecting lots of tournaments to use that format. It kind of hurts to have to ignore all this cool stuff in the conversions, but I am sort of liking the smaller pool of things to think about.
One problem: I can't remember what comes in Wave 1 and what doesn't. Is Zertik legal?
5 minutes ago, Kieransi said:I actually have started trying to think about Wave 1 only just because I'm expecting lots of tournaments to use that format. It kind of hurts to have to ignore all this cool stuff in the conversions, but I am sort of liking the smaller pool of things to think about.
One problem: I can't remember what comes in Wave 1 and what doesn't. Is Zertik legal?
Zertik is legal.
- TIE Fighter
- TIE Advanced
- TIE Reaper.... until we hear otherwise?
Just now, LagJanson said:Zertik is legal.
- TIE Fighter
- TIE Advanced
- TIE Reaper.... until we hear otherwise?
But did he come in the TIE Advanced Expansion?
Also what about upgrades? There's a lot that come in the conversions but not the expansions
3 minutes ago, Kieransi said:But did he come in the TIE Advanced Expansion?
Also what about upgrades? There's a lot that come in the conversions but not the expansions
http://xwing-miniatures-second-edition.wikia.com/wiki/TIE_Advanced_x1
Edit: I do not vouch for the content or accuracy of the information you find...
Edit 2: Better link - http://xwing-miniatures-second-edition.wikia.com/wiki/TIE_Advanced_x1_Expansion_Pack
Edited by LagJanson