2 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

It also means they're probably still in your arc, too.

I love Rexler for historical reasons, and because he's a brute in the 2.0 iteration. I have a feeling that Valen Rudor might be the best one, though. So much nasty when you've got the hit points and action options the Defender does.

He's going to a have a Quickdraw like effect of "I don't want to shoot that".

The other new and interesting thing about Rudor in 2E is that it's not just shooting him to gain that effect. If you shoot at a ship in range 0-1 of him that's friendly to him, he's going to gain the same benefits. So there's a reward for keeping him near another ship. Not sure what ship that could be at this point because of the unknown point costs, but it's another factor for sure.

58 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Rudyard Kipling

...would be turning in his grave!

4 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

...would be turning in his grave!

Surely he had a sense of humor! Or were those Victorian Brits actually as stiff as they're made out to be?

13 minutes ago, RStan said:

The other new and interesting thing about Rudor in 2E is that it's not just shooting him to gain that effect. If you shoot at a ship in range 0-1 of him that's friendly to him, he's going to gain the same benefits. So there's a reward for keeping him near another ship. Not sure what ship that could be at this point because of the unknown point costs, but it's another factor for sure.

Yeah, he might be the biggest NPE Defender, because he takes the biggest weakness of the frame (getting blocked) and mitigates it in a big way.

33 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

People are cowards and won't like a ship that can't reposition and has PS3, it's a good list, but you're probably okay revealing it.

The 5-k feels like a repositon.

13 minutes ago, abell19 said:

You’re probably fine revealing it, especially here. Not sure enough people in here care about 1.0 enough for it to matter.

Valid, particularly about 1.0 not mattering.

It's basically giant Rebel double defender. I originally made it to combat NyMiranda, with Chopper crew. Saw was a stupid obvious replacement crew. Games generally last under 45 minutes, one way or another. They're often over way sooner. I've only touched the surface of setup strategy, based upon opposing lists. I've usually set them up on opposite sides, but there are probably plenty of opposing lists where I should start them together. 2 ships, usually throwing 4-5 red dice, often with full mods, melts stuff pretty fast. They also don't die anytime soon.

It's not going to light the world on fire, but it surprises people, is effective and the games are usually short. Seems like a good combo for long-running tournaments. My only goal is to get the range rulers from a store championship and day 2 at GenCon. I should be able to meet those goals with this.

Lothal Rebel (35)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Hera Syndulla (1)
Saw Gerrera (1)

Rey (45)
Expertise (4)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Burnout SLAM (1)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

for juke/prockets don't you need a focus and an evade?

With b-roll AND boost, defenders will have a better chance of lining up that bullseye for HLC or prockets. Rudor is gonna be so good.

I wonder how many points are left in a list if you include at least Juke Rexlar + Vader crew in Lambda shuttle. That combo seems very deadly. Now ships are dodging the Vader crew ability and if you have room for HLC or Prockets on Rexlar, it's another spot ships want to reposition out of. Scary arcs everywhere!

29 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

for juke/prockets don't you need a focus and an evade?

Defenders get an Evade for free if they move 3 or faster.

16 minutes ago, RStan said:

I wonder how many points are left in a list if you include at least Juke Rexlar + Vader crew in Lambda shuttle. That combo seems very deadly. Now ships are dodging the Vader crew ability and if you have room for HLC or Prockets on Rexlar, it's another spot ships want to reposition out of. Scary arcs everywhere!

The Lambda has that coordinate it can lend as well, which is big on a Defender. Double Lambda Defender seems great, but Lambdas might be going up a lot in points, as they're getting a lot better.

1 minute ago, Biophysical said:

The Lambda has that coordinate it can lend as well, which is big on a Defender. Double Lambda Defender seems great, but Lambdas might be going up a lot in points, as they're getting a lot better.

I'm assuming that what fits with a Vader Lambda Shuttle plus a named Defender moderately kitted out will be pocket aces like Duchess or extra cheap firepower like a gunboat or depending how drastic the cost change is, a TIE Phantom.

2 hours ago, Biophysical said:

If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken

Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

We will rebuild it, one post at a time. With content so strong no jealous threads can tear it down to the wasteland of Off Topic. This will be our battleground!

Also I prefer the idea of the wrecking ball of Ion & Prockets over the HLC menace. A strong alpha strike is an old favourite of mine as a lot of times you demoralise your opponent to the point they start making unforced errors.

So quick question, is the new plan to make this the most On Top On Topic Thread?

Im ok with abandoning the 1.0 Version of it.

Just now, Boom Owl said:

So quick question, is the new plan to make this the most On Top On Topic Thread?

Im ok with abandoning the 1.0 Version of it.

1.0 could stay in OT as an outlet.

9 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

So quick question, is the new plan to make this the most On Top On Topic Thread?

Im ok with abandoning the 1.0 Version of it.

No plan as far as I know.

Krayts on top of all the forums?

1 hour ago, Biophysical said:

1.0 could stay in OT as an outlet.

Ok so this will be the on top on topic thread and the 1.0 version will be the on top off topic thread?

Feels right to me.

Content only from here out in here then?

5 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Ok so this will be the on top on topic thread and the 1.0 version will be the on top off topic thread?

Feels right to me.

Content only from here out in here then?

You want to be the thread content police? I sure don't.

13 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

You want to be the thread content police? I sure don't.

Not at all. I just want to post GIFs honestly.

55 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

You want to be the thread content police? I sure don't.

Content warning keeps taking on new meanings!

Something like 70 pages of the Gunboat thread is people spamming the same (mostly bad) renders. I think we can post some memes without falling foul of the mods if the cultists come for this thread too.

I had something with a similar idea. It wasn't quite as in your face though. A little more annoying and controlly.

Lothal Rebel (35)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autoblaster Turret (2)
Hera Syndulla (1)
Saw Gerrera (1)

Ezra Bridger (Sheathipede) (17)
Snap Shot (2)
Courier Droid (0)
R3-A2 (2)

Miranda Doni (29)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
C-3PO (3)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

5 hours ago, Major Tom said:

Something like 70 pages of the Gunboat thread is people spamming the same (mostly bad) renders. I think we can post some memes without falling foul of the mods if the cultists come for this thread too.

Worst case it can always be rebuilt. It's not like posts are a limited resource!

10 hours ago, Major Tom said:

No plan as far as I know.

Krayts on top of all the forums?

I agree

Lets make a point of staying on topic here.

Random thought, we keep talking about duchess being really good and also a budget ace in the same breath. Its a 3 attack die ship that can pre boost at init 5. I have to wonder if she sees a price hike in 2.0. Shes definitly one of the first imperial ships i want to try.

3 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

Random thought, we keep talking about duchess being really good and also a budget ace in the same breath. Its a 3 attack die ship that can pre boost at init 5. I have to wonder if she sees a price hike in 2.0. Shes definitly one of the first imperial ships i want to try.

She definitely could see a price hike. Although with likely limited upgrade slots, assuming it's just talent, mod and bomb, there's only so high she can go in comparison to other aces. My guess is ffg will price hike her a little bit at the start and she might eventually get the "up, up, up" treatment depending on how things shake out.

14 minutes ago, RStan said:

She definitely could see a price hike. Although with likely limited upgrade slots, assuming it's just talent, mod and bomb, there's only so high she can go in comparison to other aces. My guess is ffg will price hike her a little bit at the start and she might eventually get the "up, up, up" treatment depending on how things shake out.

She seems absolutely great. The low defense might be an issue, but with a solid bid, she's dodging a lot of arcs. Predator feels real good, there. Bomb is a wild card. No reload, so it's pretty much just the one drop, but it adds some really interesting options to what is otherwise a dogfighting ship.

1 hour ago, Biophysical said:

She seems absolutely great. The low defense might be an issue, but with a solid bid, she's dodging a lot of arcs. Predator feels real good, there. Bomb is a wild card. No reload, so it's pretty much just the one drop, but it adds some really interesting options to what is otherwise a dogfighting ship.

It's also device, so for all we know it may do something else. LWF could very well be a device now too, or something else. I think thinking of I as a bomb slot is limiting.

that said, I think cheap duchess is best duchess. Predator and that's it. Keep it lean, keep it mean.