2 hours ago, gennataos said:

Yeah, not sure if I'm a fan of the flippy tokens. It seems like that leaves the door open wider for slight of hand.

There's so many opportunities for cheating in this game. I've also played games against people with the 1.0 tokens who would sometimes set the shields that were on their ship next to the pilot card (rather than on the pilot card) and then slide the tokens a little further away from the card when the shields were removed. And then I'd end up doing seven damage to their Dash Rendar and he still wouldn't have any damage cards on him.

Flippy tokens are kind of fun. The sad part? They mean I'll very rarely see the generally fun art on the pilot cards because there will always be the shields there. And yes, there will be cheating, just as there always has been.

Luckily, out here in the Wild West, there's just not enough people. If you cheat too much, you run out of people who will actually play with you and you have to give up on X-Wing entirely to play MTG.

7 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Flippy tokens are kind of fun. The sad part? They mean I'll very rarely see the generally fun art on the pilot cards because there will always be the shields there.

I like to line up my shields next to my pilot card, in a row so it's obvious how much is there. Display that artwork for all to see. Which is why I form a pile of spent shields off to a corner instead of just sliding things off. Now with flippy, should I flip-flop and choose to be flippy, I can leave them in that line and flip them there.

I think I need to get more tins to drop tokens in going forward. So many different types of tokens... just when I phased the last of my cardboard tokens out too.

2 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

I like to line up my shields next to my pilot card, in a row so it's obvious how much is there. Display that artwork for all to see. Which is why I form a pile of spent shields off to a corner instead of just sliding things off. Now with flippy, should I flip-flop and choose to be flippy, I can leave them in that line and flip them there.

I think I need to get more tins to drop tokens in going forward. So many different types of tokens... just when I phased the last of my cardboard tokens out too.

See? People like you who don't like covering the cards with tokens can now put the shields next to the cards without people thinking you're cheating. Because a red shield token is obviously different than a blue shield token, but a blue shield token intentionally moved aside and a blue shield token accidentally brushed aside aren't that different.

In addition to our local Dash Rendar player/cheater, we also have a person who likes to line up the shields beside the card and then forgets how many he's brushed aside, or whether things were unintentionally brushed aside with a sleeve or something.

So there are certain accidents/cheats prevented by the new tokens.

I've never had luck at SoS for some reason so best I got are challenge coins for shields. Apparently some people don't like that though...

Also I'm totally in the remove tokens camp. When I'm quickly glancing over at an opponent's cards in the heat of battle, it takes much less time to see an absence of something than to see it flipped to a different color.

12 minutes ago, LagJanson said:

I like to line up my shields next to my pilot card

What dream world is this you live in where you are given sufficient player space to do such a thing? When I play at a game store, I am required to hold 90% of my game materials in a tightly clenched fist.

Question: if I go to a 2.0 tourney and don't want to bring all the upgrade cards with me, am I allowed to pick a quickbuild from one of the quickbuild cards, put it into the app to make sure it doesn't cost too many points, and just bring the quickbuild cards?

I would actually intentionally nerf my own list out of laziness.

1 minute ago, Kdubb said:

What dream world is this you live in where you are given sufficient player space to do such a thing? When I play at a game store, I am required to hold 90% of my game materials in a tightly clenched fist.

• Local shop uses two tables put together, so we've got 6" on either side of the map for cards
• VTTV seems to like the weird stuff I bring so I've found myself at the roomy streaming table a fair bit
• Nationals/Regionals I play pretty much with everything in my lap and not the way I'd like too...

Another unrelated question: if I started 3D-printing Silencers that are 50% larger than the original sculpt, would anyone be interested?

3 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

What dream world is this you live in where you are given sufficient player space to do such a thing? When I play at a game store, I am required to hold 90% of my game materials in a tightly clenched fist.

I never unpack my ****. I leave my upgrades in the same sleeve of my pilot cards.

My answer to "What's on blackout" is "The good stuff- Exactly what you expect a Silencer to have"

One guy started listing VI, FCS, etc, before I corrected him.

Another guy once then assumed it was Trick Shot, Primed Thrusters, and Col Detector- He got a rude awakening when I didn't land my Blackout on obstacles.

But every other time they immediately knew what Blackout had.

On the other hand, the number of people who see a lone Silencer and think "Right, that must be Kylo" is pretty high.

1 minute ago, Kieransi said:

Another unrelated question: if I started 3D-printing Silencers that are 50% larger than the original sculpt, would anyone be interested?

talk to me when you're at 100%

6 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

What dream world is this you live in where you are given sufficient player space to do such a thing? When I play at a game store, I am required to hold 90% of my game materials in a tightly clenched fist.

The FLGS where I TO'ed before 2.0 freed me has massive tables, roughly 4'x12'. We can squeeze four mats side by side and each player has nearly a foot of space on their side of the mat. Or 3 mats with oodles of space everywhere.

It is by far the best setup I've seen, which is why going anywhere else feels like a step down. Our regional was tiny folding tables with thin hardboard. I guess I should be happy I was on stream for 4 out of 9 games and avoided that setup? Well, that and forcing people to see Paratanni play yet again, which is its own kind of fun

1 minute ago, Kieransi said:

Another unrelated question: if I started 3D-printing Silencers that are 50% larger than the original sculpt, would anyone be interested?

BIG MEATY SILENCERS

3 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Another unrelated question: if I started 3D-printing Silencers that are 50% larger than the original sculpt, would anyone be interested?

Yes, but since it needs to be a "modified" silencer original model, make the larger a giant silencer with a silencer shaped insert to set my chad silencer into, so I have a chaddest silencer carrying a chad silencer, to stare down the peasant silencers.

2 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Yes, but since it needs to be a "modified" silencer original model, make the larger a giant silencer with a silencer shaped insert to set my chad silencer into, so I have a chaddest silencer carrying a chad silencer, to stare down the peasant silencers.

The Chaddest silencer is the 1:1 replica that some guy made.

The next-most Chad silencer is using a drone resculpted to look like a Silencer. Hover it over the table and scream "OUT OF MY WAY TINY ******* *****".

13 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

I never unpack my ****. I leave my upgrades in the same sleeve of my pilot cards.

My answer to "What's on blackout" is "The good stuff- Exactly what you expect a Silencer to have"

One guy started listing VI, FCS, etc, before I corrected him.

Another guy once then assumed it was Trick Shot, Primed Thrusters, and Col Detector- He got a rude awakening when I didn't land my Blackout on obstacles.

But every other time they immediately knew what Blackout had.

On the other hand, the number of people who see a lone Silencer and think "Right, that must be Kylo" is pretty high.

Heck, I had a large number of people asking me which of my 2 silencers at Worlds was Kylo and a lot of surprise when I said, "Neither!"

1 hour ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Don't call it Iron Price-

The preferred/best term is "Skill Gotten Gains".

Nah, @jagsba legit shived a guy for them.

39 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

BIG MEATY SILENCERS

What did you say, punk?!?

25 minutes ago, kris40k said:

Nah, @jagsba legit shived a guy for them.

I won mine with jumpmasters, so you're not too far off?

2 minutes ago, jagsba said:

I won mine with jumpmasters, so you're not too far off?

I won my second jumpmaster with my first jumpmaster. Does that count?

57 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

I never unpack my ****. I leave my upgrades in the same sleeve of my pilot cards.

My answer to "What's on blackout" is "The good stuff- Exactly what you expect a Silencer to have"

One guy started listing VI, FCS, etc, before I corrected him.

Another guy once then assumed it was Trick Shot, Primed Thrusters, and Col Detector- He got a rude awakening when I didn't land my Blackout on obstacles.

But every other time they immediately knew what Blackout had.

On the other hand, the number of people who see a lone Silencer and think "Right, that must be Kylo" is pretty high.

Unpack your stuff! As safe as it is to assume optimum upgrades it's still wrong often enough that you're being a little gamey not putting them out. And I super hate having to ask my opponents midgame about cards because it basically cues them in on what I'm thinking about when I'm not thinking about motorcycles

Just now, catachanninja said:

Unpack your stuff! As safe as it is to assume optimum upgrades it's still wrong often enough that you're being a little gamey not putting them out. And I super hate having to ask my opponents midgame about cards because it basically cues them in on what I'm thinking about when I'm not thinking about motorcycles

Has that ever happened?

Just now, catachanninja said:

Unpack your stuff! As safe as it is to assume optimum upgrades it's still wrong often enough that you're being a little gamey not putting them out. And I super hate having to ask my opponents midgame about cards because it basically cues them in on what I'm thinking about when I'm not thinking about motorcycles

This! So much this!

You are responsible for communicating with your opponent. They shouldn't have to ask you for basic, public information that you are supposed to make easy for them to find out. If your game store has limited space, use a corner of the frickin' mat like you're a filthy 40K player.

Better communication leads to better games and a happier community. Don't be the problem.

14 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Has that ever happened?

Round 3 of the 2016 fall wisconsin regional there was a turn where I was thinking really hard about sex

36 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

What did you say, punk?!?

BIG

MEATY

SILENCERS

18 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:

This! So much this!

You are responsible for communicating with your opponent. They shouldn't have to ask you for basic, public information that you are supposed to make easy for them to find out. If your game store has limited space, use a corner of the frickin' mat like you're a filthy 40K player.

Better communication leads to better games and a happier community. Don't be the problem.

I keep my upgrades in a pile sometimes due to table space, but I always go over my setup with my opponent and I am happy to do so at any time during the game. This isn't ******* poker.