Carolina Krayts is the best X-Wing podcast

By SaltMaster 5000, in X-Wing

41 minutes ago, catachanninja said:

We should do the grand Koeti and record an honorable mention on it

L5Who? I know where my loyalties lie.

17 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

L5Who? I know where my loyalties lie.

How will we ever know if the unicorn clan stops being bad

1 minute ago, catachanninja said:

How will we ever know if the unicorn clan stops being bad

I'll bet they make the cut anyways, unicorn is fine.

7 hours ago, gennataos said:

I haven't played the match up yet, but when I've flown 5 rookies, I've generally been able to dictate the engagement between s-foils and FAA. If one is just straight up jousting with the rookies, I'd argue they're doing it wrong. Ideally you have a some jousters, some flankers, for more of a crescent moon approach. This allows for 2-3 of the list be in a pursuit position to maintain mods while the jousters do the obligatory red turnaround maneuvers. There's also the hurt one, assuming there is one alive and hurt, which will either block or put themselves in a situation where if they're being fired at, the rest of your list has a good angle on the shooter. QD isn't fast enough nor maneuverable enough to dictate the engagement.

@Biophysical - We need to do this matchup.

Well no doubt 5 x wings are a real list and much better then the old 3 x wing list, and good tactics will pay off against anything including the imperial list in question. I would argue though that optics QuickDraw is a lot harder to nail down because he can abuse barrel roll and his red moves without fear, and personally i like flying him by the rocks or debris and if I have to go through them I’m for sure not afraid of that if I can use it to my advantage. But instead these pretend first engagement situations I’ll break it down like this

if you lose an x wing and I lose quick draw it is still a very even game because the person to lose a ship next probably loses the game, and i for sure feel confident in two silencers against 4 x wings

if you can kill QuickDraw without losing an x wing I’d say you have very good odds of winning the game

if You lose an x wing and you only hurt QuickDraw, i say the game just got a lot harder for you and I’d feel pretty good

if QuickDraw still has shields and you lose or almost lose an x wing then I’d also feel pretty good going into the next turn

Really when beating this list, killing ,QuickDraw is the easy part, the silencers make a nice and hard to kill 64 point fortress, **** I’d say killing a silencer first would have me more nervous then losing quickdraw

but I bet it would be one **** of a fun game non the less

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I'm still looking forward to playing 1.0 at GenCon. And then never playing 1.0 ever again.

Give it a fitting sendoff: wrecking scrubs with the best ship ever, the one that should've been in Wave III or IV.

#LegendOfTheFiveWings

So I grabbed some first order and resistance card sleeves in preparation for everything being full sized cards, but I'm having trouble finding good rebel/imperial/scum ones.

Here's the FO/Resistance ones I grabbed:

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These seem... OK for rebels? Honestly not a big fan. Would rather have something space ship related, or more obviously rebel...

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If I can't find anything you're going to have to deal with lewd senran kagura sleeves, so it's in your best interest to help.

I've been using:

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Sadly it doesn't look like any of those are actually being made anymore, so they're not overly cheap if you can find em (they're on amazon for like $8-12 a pack)

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@Brunas Get the best of both worlds: custom sleeves featuring the spaceship waifus

26 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

@Brunas Get the best of both worlds: custom sleeves featuring the spaceship waifus

WHAT DO CUSTOM CARD SLEEVES COST

32 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

I've been using:

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Sadly it doesn't look like any of those are actually being made anymore, so they're not overly cheap if you can find em (they're on amazon for like $8-12 a pack)

Interesting - I can't imagine I need more than like 2 packs per faction, but I do love me some sheev and that luke looks great

1 minute ago, Brunas said:

WHAT DO CUSTOM CARD SLEEVES COST

Interesting - I can't imagine I need more than like 2 packs per faction, but I do love me some sheev and that luke looks great

Depends what youre sleeving. At roughly 100 pilot cards in a single conversion kit, you just cover one kit worth of al the pilots for a faction with 2 packs. If you convert a bunch of extra you probably fall short. Or once new ones start coming out later. If you use em for upgrades you need more.

13 hours ago, Biophysical said:

I agree.

Although in fairness, it all comes down to what you're wanting in a podcast. For a very long time, a huge portion of X-wing podcast content provided useful information to newer players, but had difficulty conveying advanced concepts usefully in the process. The Krayts traded out marginally useful information for jokes about nether regions, but also put in detailed analysis about many power squads in a meta at a level not typically seen. It's useful if you have the time to wade through the dreck, or if you like the dreck.

Huh, listened to "Listener 3," which still seems a strangely incomplete name and it was smarter than I expected. Probably the most in-depth discussion of point-fortressing I've seen and it's now making me a little more nervous about the Palp Aces I'm going to bring to the upcoming System Open. Though maybe it just emphasizes the degree to which I have to be ready to go all-in on the inevitable thousand Mirandas I'll run into the moment I run the risk of losing a ship?

1 hour ago, PenguinBonaparte said:

Huh, listened to "Listener 3," which still seems a strangely incomplete name and it was smarter than I expected. Probably the most in-depth discussion of point-fortressing I've seen and it's now making me a little more nervous about the Palp Aces I'm going to bring to the upcoming System Open. Though maybe it just emphasizes the degree to which I have to be ready to go all-in on the inevitable thousand Mirandas I'll run into the moment I run the risk of losing a ship?

There are two main responses to the in depth look at point fortressing. Knowing that strategy from your opponents can change target priority. Knowing that strategy in list building leads to 49 point Mirandas (or Kylo, Soontir, a bid, and a dream).

Third option: it can can lead to ennui and sarcasm, plus a calendar counting down the days to September.

1 hour ago, PenguinBonaparte said:

Huh, listened to "Listener 3," which still seems a strangely incomplete name and it was smarter than I expected. Probably the most in-depth discussion of point-fortressing I've seen and it's now making me a little more nervous about the Palp Aces I'm going to bring to the upcoming System Open. Though maybe it just emphasizes the degree to which I have to be ready to go all-in on the inevitable thousand Mirandas I'll run into the moment I run the risk of losing a ship?

If you're in the midwest you can safely expect a ton of 100 point ace. It's like ghost fenn but inexplicably doenst have as much stigma

1 hour ago, PenguinBonaparte said:

Huh, listened to "Listener 3," which still seems a strangely incomplete name and it was smarter than I expected. Probably the most in-depth discussion of point-fortressing I've seen and it's now making me a little more nervous about the Palp Aces I'm going to bring to the upcoming System Open. Though maybe it just emphasizes the degree to which I have to be ready to go all-in on the inevitable thousand Mirandas I'll run into the moment I run the risk of losing a ship?

The Listener series is an exception to the rule. It's almost all content without the jackassery of the weekly podcast.

Well at least I can listen to these and maybe try the regular one that I know it's not all Axis and Allies!

2 minutes ago, PenguinBonaparte said:

Well at least I can listen to these and maybe try the regular one that I know it's not all Axis and Allies!

Haha, going forward we're probably just going to be playing vassal games of second edition as more and more things get revealed (videos going up starting next week too).

With that being said, you're looking at bunch of 20-30 year olds pretending they're 12 playing call of duty, so YMMV. Our whole shtick is hiding good useful discussion behind painful levels of ironic douchebaggery. Are you a bad enough dude to dig through the dirt?

27 minutes ago, Brunas said:

Haha, going forward we're probably just going to be playing vassal games of second edition as more and more things get revealed (videos going up starting next week too).

With that being said, you're looking at bunch of 20-30 year olds pretending they're 12 playing call of duty, so YMMV. Our whole shtick is hiding good useful discussion behind painful levels of ironic douchebaggery. Are you a bad enough dude to dig through the dirt?

Well that's a problem, because I'm pretty sure all the 12-year-olds are playing Fortnite.

21 minutes ago, PenguinBonaparte said:

Well that's a problem, because I'm pretty sure all the 12-year-olds are playing Fortnite.

something something something back in MY DAY

4 hours ago, Chumbalaya said:

@Brunas Get the best of both worlds: custom sleeves featuring the spaceship waifus

4 hours ago, Brunas said:

WHAT DO CUSTOM CARD SLEEVES COST

Plz no lewd the spaceships

1 hour ago, PenguinBonaparte said:

Well at least I can listen to these and maybe try the regular one that I know it's not all Axis and Allies!

The other thing of interest may be Solo:A Krayt-tent story and Episode 60 (which has the first half of it as Solo 2)

It's like a listener episode, but shorter, and it's not clear what exactly the point is. It has one, probably?

Really, that applies to the Kraytcast in general- Most podcasts produce low level content, but easily accessible. Krayts can produce really high level content, but it's going to be buried in nonsense.

The archetypal episode example is the one where Synced Turret was spoiled and discussed- That episode has the Krayts doing math to show that Synced was worse than TLT even if it had no TL restriction and gave 3 rerolls independent of primary value- It would still do less damage than TLT AND have a smaller footprint. Once they have this information, they crank-call Paul Heaver.

9 hours ago, PenguinBonaparte said:

Huh, listened to "Listener 3," which still seems a strangely incomplete name and it was smarter than I expected. Probably the most in-depth discussion of point-fortressing I've seen and it's now making me a little more nervous about the Palp Aces I'm going to bring to the upcoming System Open. Though maybe it just emphasizes the degree to which I have to be ready to go all-in on the inevitable thousand Mirandas I'll run into the moment I run the risk of losing a ship?

6 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

The other thing of interest may be Solo:A Krayt-tent story and Episode 60 (which has the first half of it as Solo 2)

It's like a listener episode, but shorter, and it's not clear what exactly the point is. It has one, probably?

Really, that applies to the Kraytcast in general- Most podcasts produce low level content, but easily accessible. Krayts can produce really high level content, but it's going to be buried in nonsense.

The archetypal episode example is the one where Synced Turret was spoiled and discussed- That episode has the Krayts doing math to show that Synced was worse than TLT even if it had no TL restriction and gave 3 rerolls independent of primary value- It would still do less damage than TLT AND have a smaller footprint. Once they have this information, they crank-call Paul Heaver.

So, the earlier ‘Listener’ episodes are outdated in light of the 2.0 announcement, and separately, I went back and listened to them, and they’re... rough.

listener 3 is where we started applying better structure ONTOP of just doing research, with Listener 4 being the most relevant (and from which I will model any other Listener Topics that may come in the future).

Whether the main podcast is your cup of tea may not be correlated to the Listener Tooics, but I hope you like both; but if not, no worries.

6 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Really, that applies to the Kraytcast in general- Most podcasts produce low level content, but easily accessible. Krayts can produce really high level content, but it's going to be buried in nonsense.


recent example, the most recent episode which is 2 games of xwing with no visual reference. and there is still a heap of value to get out of it.

- Evade nerf = wedge slightly better
- force token = focus token?
- if you cant eyeball range 1, 2 and 3 you have 4 months to learn

- named Ywings OP?

im getting my first 2.0 games in tomorrow vs some early wave veterans. time to see how much the skill gap just grew.

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38 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

listener 3 is where we started applying better structure ONTOP of just doing research, with Listener 4 being the most relevant (and from which I will model any other Listener Topics that may come in the future).

Listener 4 is easily one of the best podcasts of any format that I've listened to. I've gone back and listened to it twice now, and that's not something that I've done to *ANY* other podcast. Between the cast itself and the info in the notes there is just a ton of very philosophical theory in there that applies to competitive gaming in general. It's not X-wing specific and just transcends game theory as a concept. It's interesting because I come to X-wing with a heavy board gaming background and the first thing I ask when approaching a new game is "When does the game end, how do I win, and what are the ways to score points? And work backward from there. With X-wing I was much more casual and not taking those same concepts in mind and simply approaching with the neanderthal mentality of "KILL ALL THE THINGS!". There's a much more methodical approach to win conditions that Listener 4 really opened my eyes to.

12 hours ago, Brunas said:

Interesting - I can't imagine I need more than like 2 packs per faction, but I do love me some sheev and that luke looks great

My LFGS has some of these in stock:

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