2 hours ago, Kieransi said:

TIE/D's and GUNBOATS are both traitors to the Empire. They love to slowly roll into combat like Rebel scum.

1-bank is just the Defender version of the TIE Fighter's hard 1.

If I was to look for a 1.0 squad to practice up for 2.0, is there anything better than non-engine Vader with a mini swarm? Single reposition arc dodger and formation flying seem important.

Maybe shadowcasters for the mobile arc? Kimos for lining up a bullseye? What other skills can we work on?

5 minutes ago, AEIllingworth said:

If I was to look for a 1.0 squad to practice up for 2.0, is there anything better than non-engine Vader with a mini swarm? Single reposition arc dodger and formation flying seem important.

Maybe shadowcasters for the mobile arc? Kimos for lining up a bullseye? What other skills can we work on?

The Ocho, for maximum Swarm Memery.

I know a few other people were tentatively getting into Shadespire too, and a funny thing seems to have happened. At the very point X-Wing looks to be saved GW seem to have reverted to type. Relic decks are generating a degree of salt roughly equivalent to pre-nerf TS Nym/Miranda...

7 hours ago, AEIllingworth said:

If I was to look for a 1.0 squad to practice up for 2.0, is there anything better than non-engine Vader with a mini swarm? Single reposition arc dodger and formation flying seem important.

Maybe shadowcasters for the mobile arc? Kimos for lining up a bullseye? What other skills can we work on?

I think any simple, arced ship is going to be good practice. X-wings, TIE Fighters, etc. Right now, the X-wings are probably marginally competitive. 5 low PS guys or a couple named pilots and a couple rookies.

7 hours ago, AEIllingworth said:

If I was to look for a 1.0 squad to practice up for 2.0, is there anything better than non-engine Vader with a mini swarm? Single reposition arc dodger and formation flying seem important.

Maybe shadowcasters for the mobile arc? Kimos for lining up a bullseye? What other skills can we work on?

Run Interceptors, but do it without autothrusters and don’t ever push to focus and evade. They still get double reposition goodness in 2e looks like, since they can link any action to a BR or boost.

7 hours ago, AEIllingworth said:

If I was to look for a 1.0 squad to practice up for 2.0, is there anything better than non-engine Vader with a mini swarm? Single reposition arc dodger and formation flying seem important.

Maybe shadowcasters for the mobile arc? Kimos for lining up a bullseye? What other skills can we work on?

Kimos are a good bet. With Vader you can still boost just only after 3-5 speed moves I think.

1 hour ago, mdl0114 said:

Run Interceptors, but do it without autothrusters and don’t ever push to focus and evade. They still get double reposition goodness in 2e looks like, since they can link any action to a BR or boost.

whoa - make sure your opponent is also in.

Running any "2.0" list against current meta is going to be more than painful

1 hour ago, Boom Owl said:

Kimos are a good bet. With Vader you can still boost just only after 3-5 speed moves I think.

And it's only good for three uses. Boost wisely.

1 hour ago, Biophysical said:

I think any simple, arced ship is going to be good practice. X-wings, TIE Fighters, etc.

13 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

whoa - make sure your opponent is also in.

Running any "2.0" list against current meta is going to be more than painful

These two bits are probably the best advice. I don't see the need to hamstring yourself by purposefully not including upgrades which will just make your squad worse. Just fly stuff with arcs.

Its kinda great when everyone opts in for a similar type game.

Ran 3 Tie Strikers + Inquisitor vs 5 X-Wings yesterday. Was incredibly fun.

Now that worlds is over people seem to be really starting to embrace the Arc game.

13 hours ago, Do I need a Username said:

This was my favorite part of running TIE/D in the x7 meta. No one expected me to go slow.

I don't know how often I've heard "I forgot they could do that" after revealing a 1 bank on a Defender.

12 hours ago, Kieransi said:

TIE/D's and GUNBOATS are both traitors to the Empire. They love to slowly roll into combat like Rebel scum.

Lies! It is not treason to live long enough to defeat the Emporer's enemies!

30 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

whoa - make sure your opponent is also in.

Running any "2.0" list against current meta is going to be more than painful

Right, if you want to also play good meta stuff, not just play for giggles and to practice 2e stuff, you’re in trouble.

40 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

whoa - make sure your opponent is also in.

Running any "2.0" list against current meta is going to be more than painful

7 minutes ago, mdl0114 said:

Right, if you want to also play good meta stuff, not just play for giggles and to practice 2e stuff, you’re in trouble.

Play 32 point Silencers (FCS/Autothrusters/Optics). You point and shoot like a 2.0 list, but you have the brawny jousting advantages to help overpower turrets and heavy defense.

7 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Play 32 point Silencers (FCS/Autothrusters/Optics). You point and shoot like a 2.0 list, but you have the brawny jousting advantages to help overpower turrets and heavy defense.

I am so glad I have run nothing but Palpfree Vader Imp Aces since last year.

Get to do more of the same against less of the 1.0 pain.

6 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

I am so glad I have run nothing but Palpfree Vader Imp Aces since last year.

Get to do more of the same against less of the 1.0 pain.

Yeah, I'm like "everything I like to play the most gets a bit worse, and everything most powerful in the meta gets tremendously worse, cool."

25 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Yeah, I'm like "everything I like to play the most gets a bit worse, and everything most powerful in the meta gets tremendously worse, cool."

I really hope defenders just lose the x7 title. I AM READY FFG.

If they make them cheaper I'd be super ok with that.

48 minutes ago, Do I need a Username said:

I really hope defenders just lose the x7 title. I AM READY FFG.

I'd kinda like to see them go the other direction. In the lore defenders are just like the most expensive fancy thing ever right? They could do that.

...for a price.

9 minutes ago, Brunas said:

I'd kinda like to see them go the other direction. In the lore defenders are just like the most expensive fancy thing ever right? They could do that.

...for a price.

In Galactic Credit terms, Defenders cost as much as 5 standard ties for the Empire to purchase.

20 hours ago, VanderLegion said:

It DID annoy me when Veterans came out and I couldn't fly a delta and vessery at the same time without buying another base defender model since they're on the same cardboard :(. Same with the alphas in Imperial Aces.

lol, I just bought a second (second hand, no pun intended!) defender blister for that very reason!

6 minutes ago, Brunas said:

I'd kinda like to see them go the other direction. In the lore defenders are just like the most expensive fancy thing ever right? They could do that.

...for a price.

I'm telling you, in a world without turrets and Autothrusters, a Defender, even untitled, is a pretty durable platform. They'll likely keep some type of cannon special rules. If they keep the white K (understandable if they don't) they're a solid ship.

In wave 6, which had lots of offense, just not Jumpmaster levels of offense, the HLC Defender could last a reasonable number of turns, and 2.0 looks to have notably lower offense than that era.

1 minute ago, viedit said:

In Galactic Credit terms, Defenders cost as much as 5 standard ties for the Empire to purchase.

Oof. Thank god you couldn't 60 pts fortress with a lone wolf x7 defender.

1 minute ago, Biophysical said:

I'm telling you, in a world without turrets and Autothrusters, a Defender, even untitled, is a pretty durable platform. They'll likely keep some type of cannon special rules. If they keep the white K (understandable if they don't) they're a solid ship.

In wave 6, which had lots of offense, just not Jumpmaster levels of offense, the HLC Defender could last a reasonable number of turns, and 2.0 looks to have notably lower offense than that era.

Oh I believe you, I just meant I like the idea of a more expensive defender. Double D being 200 points could be cool. Imperial brobots style stuff.

1 minute ago, PaulRuddSays said:

Oof. Thank god you couldn't 60 pts fortress with a lone wolf x7 defender.

Half points for small bases in 2.0 any consolation?