hope we see at least some of deathfire floating around, the little guy deserves it

I agree whole heartedly. I hope Tomax makes a good showing too (in bomber form preferably)

Is Nathan Eide playing tomorrow?

I'm pumped to see so many Mindlink squads.

great minds link alike?

Stahhhhp.

The other day I was asked to help a player move into the Scum faction and be competitive and as an Imperial player he already had the Firespray..

To my surprise I realized that after the FAQ, nearly every list and variations could nearly be met by just buying a single pack of each type.. There are really only two deviations that I am aware of and this includes Jumpmaster 5K for Dengaroo, Protectorate for "Old Man" Teroch, I guess a third if you wanted unhinged 4 Y-Wing.

Think about what you get by just buying 1 pack of each type?

I was asked if I thought Scum with minimal purchasing could be competitive and after seeing the lists that have been brought to Worlds I would say YES.

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

good lord no

the cheapest is going to be Imperial Veterans for the foreseeable future

crackshot and x7 and you're good to go

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

good lord no

the cheapest is going to be Imperial Veterans for the foreseeable future

crackshot and x7 and you're good to go

blade_mercurial has run triple x7 Crackshot Glaives a lot at very high levels of Vassal play. That's $90 retail (plus some free bombers), which is pretty cheap for a seriously competitive list.

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

good lord no

the cheapest is going to be Imperial Veterans for the foreseeable future

crackshot and x7 and you're good to go

I agree, Defenders are easiest, but at the same time one of the most competitive ways

Mark Fletcher ("Sable Gryphon", Scum & Villainy podcast)

• {list incomplete, only 90 points}
• Warden + Advanced Slam + Cluster Mines + EM + Sabine Crew
• Warden + Advanced Slam + Seismic + EM + Intel Agent
• Warden + Advanced Slam + Seismic + Chopper

From photo shared on Facebook.

3 with cluster mines. 2 with seismic charges.

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

good lord no

the cheapest is going to be Imperial Veterans for the foreseeable future

crackshot and x7 and you're good to go

Yeah, but if you really want the list to do well , you need the shuttle and Palpatine - and he's still a $100 upgrade on his own.

Also: Juke (TIE/FO only) and Vessery is smart (TIE/D standalone).

I'm not sure taking just what is in Imperial Veterans and a core set is really that 'competitive'...

This is Jesper Hills full list

Conscious Coupling (96)

Manaroo (37) - Attani Mindlink, K4 Security Droid, Plasma Torpedo, Unhinged Astromech, Guidance Chips, Feedback Array

Fenn Rau (32) - Attani Mindlink, Concorde Dawn Protector, Autothrusters

Palob Godalhi (27) - Attani Mindlink, Autoblaster Turret, Cloaking Device, Stygium Particle Accelerator

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

good lord no

the cheapest is going to be Imperial Veterans for the foreseeable future

crackshot and x7 and you're good to go

Yeah, but if you really want the list to do well , you need the shuttle and Palpatine - and he's still a $100 upgrade on his own.

Also: Juke (TIE/FO only) and Vessery is smart (TIE/D standalone).

I'm not sure taking just what is in Imperial Veterans and a core set is really that 'competitive'...

eh, you really don't need palp

maybe for like world's tier play, where you're playing enough rounds against the tip-top that absolute bull dice can and will happen (which is really where palp shines, just hand wave those dice away)

but for "competitive", meaning the rest of us, the x7 defender by itself is just beastly regardless

standardized for ps 1 and I believe assuming a 50% trigger rate on the x7 title, the x7 defender is (According to juggler) the most efficient jouster in the game

This is Jesper Hills full list

Conscious Coupling (96)

Manaroo (37) - Attani Mindlink, K4 Security Droid, Plasma Torpedo, Unhinged Astromech, Guidance Chips, Feedback Array

Fenn Rau (32) - Attani Mindlink, Concorde Dawn Protector, Autothrusters

Palob Godalhi (27) - Attani Mindlink, Autoblaster Turret, Cloaking Device, Stygium Particle Accelerator

Is there a specific reason for the 4 point bid?

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

good lord no

the cheapest is going to be Imperial Veterans for the foreseeable future

crackshot and x7 and you're good to go

Yeah, but if you really want the list to do well , you need the shuttle and Palpatine - and he's still a $100 upgrade on his own.

Also: Juke (TIE/FO only) and Vessery is smart (TIE/D standalone).

I'm not sure taking just what is in Imperial Veterans and a core set is really that 'competitive'...

Palp is actually only 30-40 bucks on Ebay now.

Nevermind that Defenders actually do ok without Palp. They're not Soontir, who loses a big chunk of his effectiveness after he gets tagged once.

This is Jesper Hills full list

Conscious Coupling (96)

Manaroo (37) - Attani Mindlink, K4 Security Droid, Plasma Torpedo, Unhinged Astromech, Guidance Chips, Feedback Array

Fenn Rau (32) - Attani Mindlink, Concorde Dawn Protector, Autothrusters

Palob Godalhi (27) - Attani Mindlink, Autoblaster Turret, Cloaking Device, Stygium Particle Accelerator

Is there a specific reason for the 4 point bid?

Best guess is for Dengaroo that easily comes in at 97 in some builds.

This is Jesper Hills full list

Conscious Coupling (96)

Manaroo (37) - Attani Mindlink, K4 Security Droid, Plasma Torpedo, Unhinged Astromech, Guidance Chips, Feedback Array

Fenn Rau (32) - Attani Mindlink, Concorde Dawn Protector, Autothrusters

Palob Godalhi (27) - Attani Mindlink, Autoblaster Turret, Cloaking Device, Stygium Particle Accelerator

Is there a specific reason for the 4 point bid?

Yes. Against other mindlink lists you absolutely have to go second.

Any VI Bots lists running?

Or how many Brobots lists period?

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

good lord no

the cheapest is going to be Imperial Veterans for the foreseeable future

crackshot and x7 and you're good to go

Yeah, but if you really want the list to do well , you need the shuttle and Palpatine - and he's still a $100 upgrade on his own.

Also: Juke (TIE/FO only) and Vessery is smart (TIE/D standalone).

I'm not sure taking just what is in Imperial Veterans and a core set is really that 'competitive'...

You can do plenty "well" without palp. I'm 18-3 currently with triple defenders (vessery/ryad/delta). Quite a few of those wins are against some very good players in the core worlds of the vassal league (including 2 dengaroo builds)

Any VI Bots lists running?

Or how many Brobots lists period?

Along with that, any quad TLT?

Any VI Bots lists running?

Or how many Brobots lists period?

Along with that, any quad TLT?

And Scyk swarms?

Mark Fletcher ("Sable Gryphon", Scum & Villainy podcast)

• {list incomplete, only 90 points}
• Warden + Advanced Slam + Cluster Mines + EM + Sabine Crew
• Warden + Advanced Slam + Seismic + EM + Intel Agent
• Warden + Advanced Slam + Seismic + Chopper

From photo shared on Facebook.

3 with cluster mines. 2 with seismic charges.

They forgot the most important picture: what is he wearing ?

The internet needs more Steampunk!

**** me those clusters make me sad

where the conners at!?!?!

Also, I have Doug Kinney's list for tomorrow.... but I'm sworn to secrecy until dice roll tomorrow!

Also, I have Doug Kinney's list for tomorrow.... but I'm sworn to secrecy until dice roll tomorrow!

Wait, Doug is going??? I thought for sure he was done with worlds.

Really glad to hear Doug is going.

So has Scum become the cheapest way to get into competitive play?

good lord no

the cheapest is going to be Imperial Veterans for the foreseeable future

crackshot and x7 and you're good to go

Perhaps I should have said the cheapest with the MOST variety. So many different options

Otherwise, right now today a 3-triple Defender list is probably the cheapest. But it is only 1 list. Boring / Yawn (Disclosure: I did fly two Defenders at GenCon)