There's the kind of lists I expect from the Europeans.
GURI!!!!
Every cut I see from the Spaniards is full of interesting things.
2016 System Open Series Results
Whisper/Oicunn won Naboo today.
No info on the rest of the lists that made the cut. Also, I didn't had acces to final first day table so I can't precise the MoV for the second day. Used the total amount.
And RIP Rebels and Palp Aces.
Tatooine
June 11 - 12
Madrid, Spain
Players: 205
Winner: Abel Álvarez (Spanish)
VoDs: https://www.twitch.tv/firstearth/profile
Winner
Abel Álvarez - (#5 after 2-day Swiss) Total 2-day points: 36. Total MoV: 1217
Runner-Up
- 98 points
- Dengar + Lone Wolf + title + Experimental Interface + Gonk + R5-P8 + Feedback Array
- Tel Tremura + Veteran Instincts + Proton Torpedoes + Extra Munition + Feedback ARray + R4 + Guidance Chips
Łukasz Jan Golonka - (#2 after 2-day Swiss) Total 2-day points: 38. Total MoV: 1268
Top 4
- 100 points
- Howlrunner + Crackshot + Hull Upgrade
- Mauler Mithel + Crackshot
- Black Squadron + Crackshot
- Black Squadron + Crackshot
- Black Squadron + Crackshot
- Black Squadron + Crackshot
Alberto Nogales - (#3 in 2-day Swiss) Total 2-day points: 36. Total MoV: 1331
...
- 100 points
- Dengar + title + Push the Limit + Engine Upgrade + Unhinged Astromech + K4
- Bossk + Veteran Instincts + 4-LOM + K4 + Zuckuss
Are the videos from the stream uploaded somewhere? Would be interesting to see the final games. Thank you
so the only Open to be won by triple jumps is the US one right?
Guess so.
Are the videos from the stream uploaded somewhere? Would be interesting to see the final games. Thank you
In the "VoDs" part link
https://www.twitch.tv/firstearth/profile
The final starts at the 3 hours mark of this video: https://www.twitch.tv/firstearth/v/72025976
All the games will probably be uploaded to Youtube, but no idea when.
Edited by KharneteAre the videos from the stream uploaded somewhere? Would be interesting to see the final games. Thank you
Naboo Open VODs: https://www.youtube.com/user/veldrin77/videos
Tatooine Open VODs: https://www.twitch.tv/firstearth/profile
so the only Open to be won by triple jumps is the US one right?
Yes, but there are still 2 more to go.
Whisper/Oicunn won Naboo today.
And what was the top 8 at Naboo ?
Whisper/Oicunn won Naboo today.
And what was the top 8 at Naboo ?
Very tired - I am guessing.
Whisper/Oicunn won Naboo today.
And what was the top 8 at Naboo ?
I know there was a brobots list, and a 5 A-Wing crack swarm (the crack swarm player dropped as he had a plane to catch - which ended up being cancelled!!)
so the only Open to be won by triple jumps is the US one right?
Yes, but there are still 2 more to go.
Is this relevant though? Whisper didn't win that many tournaments back in the day, but the effect on the meta was huge nevertheless.
Whisper/Oicunn won Naboo today.
And what was the top 8 at Naboo ?
I know there was a brobots list, and a 5 A-Wing crack swarm (the crack swarm player dropped as he had a plane to catch - which ended up being cancelled!!)
Here are the full squad lists from the Top 8 at Naboo Open:
http://www.186th.org/news/top-8-squad-lists-naboo-open-2016
Edited by floofAmong all of those interesting and really diverse squadrons, there is no single Rebel list in top8 of Yavin, Naboo and Tatooine and only one in Hoth and one in Endor iirc.
Scum and Imperial are in perfect place now (pls stop whining about jmk5k - they are balanced and perfect in every inch), but it seems that Rebels could use some buff
they are balanced and perfect in every inch),
(pls stop whining about jmk5k - they are balanced and perfect in every inch), but it seems that Rebels could use some buff
Pretty obvious you're trolling, but the designers are on record saying theyre 'probably undercosted' so there's that. Also it amazes me you fail to see the direct correlation between jm success and rebel failure since it's exactly those jumpmasters who push rebel squads out of the meta right now. Rebels have plenty of answers against Palp Aces, but very few against Jumpmasters. It's literally the most obvious meta read to make right now. Amazing.
Edited by Celes
Naboo
June 11 - 12
Copenhagen, Denmark
Players: 152
Winner: Sascha Glitsch (Germany)
VoDs:
https://www.youtube.com/user/veldrin77/videos
Winner
Sascha Glitsch
- (#1 after 2-day Swiss)
- Whisper + Veterean Instincts + Adv. Cloaking Device + Intelligence Agent + Fire-Control System
- Cpt. Oicunn + Predator + Emperor Palpatine + Rebel Captive + Engine
Runner-Up
Karol Petrowicz
- (#3 after 2-day Swiss)
- Carnor Jax + Veteran Instincts + Autothrusters + Hull Upgrade + Royal Guard Pilot
- The Inquisitor + Push the Limit + TIE/v1 + Autothrusters + Proton Rockets
- Omicron Group Pilot + Emperor Palpatine + Sensor Jammer
Top 4
Toni Korhonen
- (#4 in 2-day Swiss)
- Contracted Scout + Deadeye + Plasma Torpedoes + Extra Ammo + R4 Agromech + Guidance Chips
- Contracted Scout + Deadeye + Plasma Torpedoes + Extra Ammo + R4 Agromech + Guidance Chips
- Trandoshan Slaver + Zuckuss + 4-LOM + Dengar
James Dowdall - (#7 in 2-day Swiss)
- The Inquisitor + Push the Limit + Autothrsuters + TIE/v1
- Omega Leader + Juke + Comm Relay
- Wampa
- Omicron Group Pilot + Emperor Palpatine
Top 8
Jesper Hills
- (#2 in 2-day Swiss)
- IG-88 B + Push the Limit + Adv. Sensors + IG-2000 + Mangler Cannon + Autothrsuters
- IG-88 C + Push the Limit + Adv. Sensors + IG-2000 + Heavy Laser Cannon + Tractor Beam + Autothrusters
Rick Porsius - (#5 in 2-day Swiss)
- Contracted Scout + Deadeye + Plasma Torpedoes + Overclocked R4 + Guidance Chips + Extra Ammo
- Contracted Scout + Deadeye + Plasma Torpedoes + Overclocked R4 + Guidance Chips
- Contracted Scout + Deadeye + Proton Torpedoes + R4 Agromech + Guidance Chips + Extra Ammo + Boba Fett
Mike Dennis - (#6 in 2-day Swiss)
- Soontir Fel + Push the Limit + Stealth Device + Autothrusters + Royal Guard TIE
- The Inquisitor + Push the Limit + TIE/v1 + Autothrsuers + Proton Rockets
- Omicron Group Pilot + Emperor Palpatine
Frans Bongers - (#8 in 2-day Swiss)
- Darth Vader + Veteran Instincts + TIE/x1 + Adv. Targeting Computer + Engine Upgrade
- Soontir Fel + Push the Limit + Autothrusters + Stealth Device + Royal Guard TIE
- Omicron Group Pilot + Emperor Palpatine + Electronic Baffle
Pretty obvious you're trolling, but the designers are on record saying theyre 'probably undercosted' so there's that. Also it amazes me you fail to see the direct correlation between jm success and rebel failure since it's exactly those jumpmasters who push rebel squads out of the meta right now. Rebels have plenty of answers against Palp Aces, but very few against Jumpmasters. It's literally the most obvious meta read to make right now. Amazing.they are balanced and perfect in every inch),
(pls stop whining about jmk5k - they are balanced and perfect in every inch), but it seems that Rebels could use some buff
I am not trolling, just express my feelings. This is obvious that JM5K are the reason the Meta is as it is. The point is that if 2 out of 3 legs are strong and equally matched, my solution is not to weaken one of those 2, but to buff the third one.
Btw, Rebels have won 3 Worlds in a row, so Meta shift is kinda nice, isn't it?
Only a correction, The 3º in Tatooine Open was a 97 points. I know because I played a similar list and I was 173.....
. The list don't made the X-Wing-ner....
No info on the rest of the lists that made the cut. Also, I didn't had acces to final first day table so I can't precise the MoV for the second day. Used the total amount.
Top 4
And RIP Rebels and Palp Aces.
Tatooine
Alberto Nogales - (#3 in 2-day Swiss) Total 2-day points: 36. Total MoV: 1331
- 97 points
- Dengar + title + Push the Limit + Engine Upgrade + Unhinged Astromech + K4
- Bossk + Veteran Instincts + 4-LOM + K4 + Zuckuss
Only a correction, The 3º in Tatooine Open was a 97 points. I know because I played a similar list and I was 173.....
Good catch! I double checked now just in case I missed an upgrade there, but nope. Seems I just forgot to replace the number from the template I used.
Pretty obvious you're trolling, but the designers are on record saying theyre 'probably undercosted' so there's that. Also it amazes me you fail to see the direct correlation between jm success and rebel failure since it's exactly those jumpmasters who push rebel squads out of the meta right now. Rebels have plenty of answers against Palp Aces, but very few against Jumpmasters. It's literally the most obvious meta read to make right now. Amazing.they are balanced and perfect in every inch),
(pls stop whining about jmk5k - they are balanced and perfect in every inch), but it seems that Rebels could use some buff
I am not trolling, just express my feelings. This is obvious that JM5K are the reason the Meta is as it is. The point is that if 2 out of 3 legs are strong and equally matched, my solution is not to weaken one of those 2, but to buff the third one.
Btw, Rebels have won 3 Worlds in a row, so Meta shift is kinda nice, isn't it?
You literally said 'they are balanced and perfect in every inch'. If that isnt trolling then i dont know what it is.
Also Palp Aces and Rebel Regen were pretty equally matched in w7, it's just that rebel regen gets oblitterated by jumpmasters. And right now the overwhelming majority of scum lists consist mostly of jumpmasters, so its not like they're even helping the scum faction as a whole. If your solution is to buff rebels the other scum lists will fall even further behind and the perpetual cycle of over-/underpowered will continue.
Edited by CelesYou literally said 'they are balanced and perfect in every inch'. If that isnt trolling then i dont know what it is.Pretty obvious you're trolling, but the designers are on record saying theyre 'probably undercosted' so there's that. Also it amazes me you fail to see the direct correlation between jm success and rebel failure since it's exactly those jumpmasters who push rebel squads out of the meta right now. Rebels have plenty of answers against Palp Aces, but very few against Jumpmasters. It's literally the most obvious meta read to make right now. Amazing.they are balanced and perfect in every inch),
(pls stop whining about jmk5k - they are balanced and perfect in every inch), but it seems that Rebels could use some buff
I am not trolling, just express my feelings. This is obvious that JM5K are the reason the Meta is as it is. The point is that if 2 out of 3 legs are strong and equally matched, my solution is not to weaken one of those 2, but to buff the third one.
Btw, Rebels have won 3 Worlds in a row, so Meta shift is kinda nice, isn't it?
Also Palp Aces and Rebel Regen were pretty equally matched in w7, it's just that rebel regen gets oblitterated by jumpmasters. And right now the overwhelming majority of scum lists consist mostly of jumpmasters, so its not like they're even helping the scum faction as a whole. If your solution is to buff rebels the other scum lists will fall even further behind and the perpetual cycle of over-/underpowered will continue.
Hmmm... Rebels, contrary to the Empire, just lack good, balanced counters to the Jumpmasters. I don't see how giving them such counter would increase number of JMK5 on the tables
You literally said 'they are balanced and perfect in every inch'. If that isnt trolling then i dont know what it is.Pretty obvious you're trolling, but the designers are on record saying theyre 'probably undercosted' so there's that. Also it amazes me you fail to see the direct correlation between jm success and rebel failure since it's exactly those jumpmasters who push rebel squads out of the meta right now. Rebels have plenty of answers against Palp Aces, but very few against Jumpmasters. It's literally the most obvious meta read to make right now. Amazing.they are balanced and perfect in every inch),
(pls stop whining about jmk5k - they are balanced and perfect in every inch), but it seems that Rebels could use some buff
I am not trolling, just express my feelings. This is obvious that JM5K are the reason the Meta is as it is. The point is that if 2 out of 3 legs are strong and equally matched, my solution is not to weaken one of those 2, but to buff the third one.
Btw, Rebels have won 3 Worlds in a row, so Meta shift is kinda nice, isn't it?
Also Palp Aces and Rebel Regen were pretty equally matched in w7, it's just that rebel regen gets oblitterated by jumpmasters. And right now the overwhelming majority of scum lists consist mostly of jumpmasters, so its not like they're even helping the scum faction as a whole. If your solution is to buff rebels the other scum lists will fall even further behind and the perpetual cycle of over-/underpowered will continue.
Hmmm... Rebels, contrary to the Empire, just lack good, balanced counters to the Jumpmasters. I don't see how giving them such counter would increase number of JMK5 on the tables
In general it should be a counter every faction can use. That would be ideal and healthy for the whole meta
Very impressed with Abel's flying in the semis and final at Tatooine. At a time when everyone and their grandmother is fussing about triple U-boats, he shows up with two and casually flies them around the map. Tel Trevura goes down first (and second) every time. He never displays any anxiety and just kills everyone with Dengar double tap, R5-P8 and feedback, gonking as necessary to regain shields.
It's a good thing that Jumpmasters shoved regen ships out of the game. One less obnoxious NPE based archetype to play against.
What, did you rebel players not get to play Poe enough during wave 7? A wave where there would be 14 players at an event, 6-7 of them would be flying rebels, and every single one of them had identical loadouts for Poe?
Did you not get to play Miranda enough? A turret ship that regenerates, can't get more rebel than that.
You rebel players absolutely deserve this. You guys complain about losing Poe in 2-3 torp blasts? Well that's what you get for getting 40 points of shield tokens out of a **** 4 point card every game last wave.
Among all of those interesting and really diverse squadrons, there is no single Rebel list in top8 of Yavin, Naboo and Tatooine and only one in Hoth and one in Endor iirc.
Scum and Imperial are in perfect place now (pls stop whining about jmk5k - they are balanced and perfect in every inch), but it seems that Rebels could use some buff
Conversely, stop saying that they are balanced as the results seem to point to the opposite being true.