Is this also when resolving event card that places 1 monster in every location around Gothmog ? I dont know, Im confused about influence, monsters are placed on influence but you cant place monster on hero location. I know its event and shadow card, but why is isnt written there if you can?

Checking the Warrior of the Lidless Eye card, looks like it places 1 influnce + 1 monster in each location adjacent Goth-boy. I would say normal restrictions are still in play. If one of the locations is a Haven for example, no influence or monster. If Hero is adjacent, influence yes, but no monster.

Q: Shadow card "Creatues of the wild": If the monster (Giant Spider or Cave Troll) is not defeated, may it stay on the location? If yes, may I place a monster token?

wernerkellens said:

Normal monster tokens don't stay on the board even if you fail to defeat, so definately would say card-monsters are neither placed or stay.

Dam said:

Thanks, then I've played it also wrong for the monster tokens...

The relevant bit from the rules:

"Discard Monster Token: If a monster token was involved
in the combat, the token is now discarded faceup adjacent
to the pile of unused tokens. This step is performed
regardless of whether the monster was defeated or not." (p. 29)

Dam said:

Thanks!!!

Here's a question I had. Having to do on cards that work against cards with printed value of zero.

Do exhausted characters who play no cards count for these effects?

How about if a character is exhausted by playing a card? Then it becomes zero. Do you even go by whats printed anymore or do printed abilities stop working on exhausted characters?

Thanks.

Serdudds said:

I don't know if we ever got an official word on this case, but I would treat exhausted as printed zero for effects that give something extra. Makes just more sense that a nasty attack (IIRC one of them gives +5 attack vs printed 0 defense) would do the most damage against exhausted characters.

Dam said:

Can't recall to be honest. Nothing in the FAQ (either version), but that's how we've been playing since the start. Just made the most sense.

I have a question about Eleanors starting quest: Where the stars are strange. It says explore Near Harad or comdat the Black Serpent. It does not say defeat the Black Serpent, so is merely engaging in combat once with this minion enough to meet the recuirements for this quest?

Rolina said:

Yes. When Eleanor has the Quest, the combat vs Black Serpent (unless you're playing vs an idiot Sauron who moves BS away from Near Harad) becomes a very tense guessing game. Does she have Retreat? When will she use it? If Eleanor gets Retreat in play successfully, she not only completes her Starting Quest but also gets a step toward Minas Tirith (or Barad-Dur), if Black Serpent outguesses her, Eleanor usually ends up hurt pretty bad and then Ambushed and probably defeated in next turn.

I need a clarification on a rule. Is the Sauron player allowed to see the heroes starting quest, advanced quest, and encounter card quests or is Sauron only allowed to know about the encounter card quests? I believe Sauron is allowed to have knowledge of every heroes quests but a friend who is also new to this game says starting quests and advanced quests are probably hidden from Sauron.

Quests are all open info. In the long run doesn't matter since of the two Starting Quests, one places a character, one doesn't, so you could judge from that which Quest the Hero has and Advanced Quest is always the same. Mission cards are the only one setup specifically mentions are kept secret.

Hi everyone!

playing the game over and over again, a couple of questions concerning the rules came up. Please keep in mind that I own the german version of the game and therefore don't know the exact english titles of the cards I'm refferring to.

1. Various Peril and Encounter Cards (i.e. “Haven-2-Fornost”) -> Receiving damage and minimizing it through the discarding of cards containing shield symbols
• Does the card itself on which the shield is printed count as 1 damage? (ie: 2-fornost: 4 damage received: I discard a card with 3 shields, does this reduce the taken damage to 1 or 0?)
• If the card itself counts: does the card go to the rest or damage pool? If it does not, I assume the card goes to the rest pool.
2. If Sauron uses the Shadowcard “1- evil mists” [sounds dumb.. but its kinda the re-translation of the german card ] to move a hero to a nearby location in Saurons action step: if it’s a perilous location, does this trigger a peril card? (Don’t think so myself, but the question popped up during a game)
3. Do empty monster tokens trigger the ambush step? Sauron would be able to move an empty monster token to a hero’s location to prevent her/him from resting, because the hero wouldn’t know it is empty UNTIL the ambush step.
4. Is Beravor allowed to rest and train in a haven (she abandons the option of healing and is just resting to allow her to train as well)?
5. [Translation failure, I think]Haven Encounter Card “3-any location”: gain one favor or discard as many favors as you wish to discard just as many corruption cards. -> It’s not clear in the german version if this means that you are able to discard corruption cards with the cost of 1 favor each or if you are able to discard as many as you wish but you have to pay them full
6. Shadowcard Nr 12 “Desperate Loss” [something like that^^]: “For every corruption card a hero possesses Sauron may place influence nearby shadow strongholds or in the shadow pool” -> Also a translation failure? You need a shadow pool of 12 just to play this card, adding influence to it doesn’t make any sense

I appreciate every help I can get - thank you very much

greets

doom1502

Doom1502 said:

#1: You would take 1 dmg unless you discard more cards. You only count the shields on the cards. All discards generally go to Rest Pool, only discard for damage goes to Damage Pool.

#2: No, Peril only occurs during the Travel Step of the Hero turn. Evil Fog is a nice card though. Badly injured Hero in Haven looking to heal? Play Fog and move him out of the Haven, no healing for him (except Beravor, but she's a her ). Want to Ambush a Hero but your Minion is one move too far? Move Minion, play Fog to move Hero to Minion, ready to Ambush.

#3: Yes, even blanks trigger an Ambush.

#4: Beravor's ability specifically mentions non-Haven location, so in a Haven she only has the normal options of rest/heal, can't train.

#5: You get to remove corruption cards on a 1 for 1 basis for Favor. So if you discard 3 Favor, you get to remove 3 Corruption.

#6: There is the Elven Cloak Item that it might be for. Sauron has 12 in SP, plays Grievous Loss (after Hero is defeated, but discarded Favor and not Elven Cloak) on a Hero. EC causes 1 influence to be removed from Shadow Pool, so GL would allow Sauron to go back to 12 in SP.

Thank you very much

Hi there, i've been given this fantastic board game, but i have some problems with game rules and i would like to solve them:

1) I can't draw encounter cards when i'm in a perilous location (that's clear) but: D not draw the encounter cards also if i am in a location, that is perilous because of the greater amount of influence (than my wisdom)? And also in the locations, which are perilous because of Gothmog?

My opinion is No, you can't draw the encounter cards...

But if you have a quest (for example - to defeat Orc in the south eaves... (instead of drawing encounter cards!!!) - so, if it's perilous because of the influence.. i should not do the fight, because i cannot encounter in this turn... i should wait one turn to remove influence and then i can fight the orc (instead of drawing enconter cards) . Is it right? Does the perilous location prevent drawing encounter cards and in this case also the fight with Orc?

2) What about the encounter card (rohan/gondor, any location, number 9, Words spoken from the heart):

It says that you spend 1 favor to discard 1 of your corruption cards...

It does mean, that i can remove just ONE corruption card? Not for example 2 favor for 2 corruption cards? I'm not a native speaker and also the translation doesn't seem to me clear. But i think i can discard just one and not more...

Am i right? Thank you for your advises and answers...

Firkraag said:

"Q: How do Quest cards that require the player to “explore” a location
interact with perilous locations?
A: The player may attempt his Quest after resolving peril cards,
even though he would normally skip his Explore step." (FAQ)

Note that the Explore Step is meant to say Encounter Step.

Firkraag said:

Yes, the Blue #9 encounter only allows you to remove one corruption card. Compare it to the Haven #3 Any Location which allows you to spend any number of favor to discard an equal number of corruption (so spend 3, discard 3). Blue #9 has the number '1' in it, while Haven #3 has the word "any" (so 0 to 10+).

Ad2: Thank you, i thought so.

Ad 1: I?m sorry but i still don't understand, can i fight an Orc (instead of drawing encounter cards) altough is the location perilous? (because when is location perilous - i can't draw the encounter cards - so i think i must wait one turn to remove influence). I see that i can skip my explore turn to finish my quest... but can i fight him when the location is perilous?

What I meant was that the word "Explore" in the answer is supposed to have the word "Encounter" instead, so it should read:

"Q: How do Quest cards that require the player to “encounter” a location
interact with perilous locations?
A: The player may attempt his Quest after resolving peril cards,
even though he would normally skip his Encounter step."

So you still get to attempt the Quest even though the location is perilous and you normally wouldn't get an encounter there.

Thank you very much. That's exactly what i wanted to know.

Hi dear community

Yesterday another question popped up concerning a possible translation error in the german version. Eometh's advanced quest allows him to force sauron to discard a plot. Unlike on other cards, here is not mentioned of it should be an active plot or from sauron's hand. We played it as "discard from the hand" because the other option seemed to powerful.

Thanks for clarification

greetz

d1502

English version mentions "Plot card from hand."