Role of the B-wing

By SamTheJ, in X-Wing

I think jousters in general need a bump. Something like : if you're in your opponent's arc and they are within yours...roll an extra attack die then toss this card (no idea what type, mod?) Call it , first pass or something.

This would also bump a card like counter measures perhaps. In fact, it would be the offensive counter part. It sucks that X wings don't get played. And I'm an imp player.

I was thinking about how B-wings have been kind of pushed out of the meta by Y-wings with TLT.

Any Thoughts?

Stay away from people who think like this.

They tried it with X-Wings... now B-Wings too?

Hel-NAH!

:angry:

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Good thing this meta-moo-moo stuff don't effect we Veteran Wingers!

:lol: :D ^_^

Personally I've been pining for some sort of "assault" title for the B-wing for ages, but for fluff reasons... I think B's are fine competitively, even a decent counter to tlt as long as they're not unhinged.

I have only lost once with...

Tarn Mison - IA- R7

Stresshog

Blue squadron - FCS X2

100 points

I have a great idea for jousters. How about a modification card that costs zero points, and that allows you to change one die to a hit or a crit when firing a missile or torpedo? If you have a primary attack of three, you get a crit, if you have a primary attack of two, you get a hit. This would help B-Wings a lot, but all jousters could benefit.

Personally I've been pining for some sort of "assault" title for the B-wing for ages, but for fluff reasons... I think B's are fine competitively, even a decent counter to tlt as long as they're not unhinged.

I like the idea of something that makes B-Wings more pew pew than an X-Wing. Say an X point title that lets them fire Cannons twice, where X is the cost of the cannon. Basically a super-expensive upgrade that lets them shoot ALL THE DAKKA.

I have a great idea for jousters. How about a modification card that costs zero points, and that allows you to change one die to a hit or a crit when firing a missile or torpedo? If you have a primary attack of three, you get a crit, if you have a primary attack of two, you get a hit. This would help B-Wings a lot, but all jousters could benefit.

Like guidance chips?

I was thinking about how B-wings have been kind of pushed out of the meta by Y-wings with TLT.

Any Thoughts?

Stay away from people who think like this.

They tried it with X-Wings... now B-Wings too?

Hel-NAH!

:angry:

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Good thing this meta-moo-moo stuff don't effect we Veteran Wingers!

:lol: :D ^_^

You tell em Joeboss!

I was thinking about how B-wings have been kind of pushed out of the meta by Y-wings with TLT.

Any Thoughts?

Stay away from people who think like this.

They tried it with X-Wings... now B-Wings too?

Hel-NAH!

:angry:

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Good thing this meta-moo-moo stuff don't effect we Veteran Wingers!

:lol: :D ^_^

That's rather rude. Insinuating anyone who wants ships to be actually good is 'not a real gamer' or somehow inferior to you. Just because you hide it behind smileys, it's a really ugly and smug sentiment.

I was thinking about how B-wings have been kind of pushed out of the meta by Y-wings with TLT.

Any Thoughts?

Stay away from people who think like this.

They tried it with X-Wings... now B-Wings too?

Hel-NAH!

:angry:

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Good thing this meta-moo-moo stuff don't effect we Veteran Wingers!

:lol: :D ^_^

That's rather rude. Insinuating anyone who wants ships to be actually good is 'not a real gamer' or somehow inferior to you. Just because you hide it behind smileys, it's a really ugly and smug sentiment.

Considering that JB is one of the more reserved individuals here, I'd warrant that your own opinion is biased, much in the same way you so readily accuse your fellow forum-goers.

Is the B-Wing actually bad? I'd say it's a preference based more on preferred playstyle than anything else. I'm afraid that JB, like many others here, is simply tired of this inflated speech about making ships better. Unless you want to be buying X-WIng codices every 6 months and getting G1-A Starfighters ala' limited edition dataslate formations, then by all means... Fix Away!

I was thinking about how B-wings have been kind of pushed out of the meta by Y-wings with TLT.

Any Thoughts?

Stay away from people who think like this.

They tried it with X-Wings... now B-Wings too?

Hel-NAH!

:angry:

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Good thing this meta-moo-moo stuff don't effect we Veteran Wingers!

:lol: :D ^_^

That's rather rude. Insinuating anyone who wants ships to be actually good is 'not a real gamer' or somehow inferior to you. Just because you hide it behind smileys, it's a really ugly and smug sentiment.

Considering that JB is one of the more reserved individuals here, I'd warrant that your own opinion is biased, much in the same way you so readily accuse your fellow forum-goers.

Is the B-Wing actually bad? I'd say it's a preference based more on preferred playstyle than anything else. I'm afraid that JB, like many others here, is simply tired of this inflated speech about making ships better. Unless you want to be buying X-WIng codices every 6 months and getting G1-A Starfighters ala' limited edition dataslate formations, then by all means... Fix Away!

That's right! I 100% said there should be weekly codexes that cost £40 each, because I hate everyone! You got me! Strawman? pfft! No way! There's clearly only two options here: Suck it up and burn your ships that are underperforming, or shill out on a fix every 3 seconds!

What a detailed and nuanced opinion that was.

As detailed and nuanced as the constant fix rage.

Define good? As it relates to the performance of models in X-Wing, that is. I'm fairly aware that the concept of "good" is an idealization of the procession of the equinox and the role of the Sun as a life giving force and that this is counterpointed by the idea of "evil" which is representative of the setting Sun, the Moon and the descent into darkness that night brings. An occurrence which must have no doubt enthralled primitive man and led to all sorts of conundrums later on! Though, in the context of little plastic shippies I fail to see the relevance of the word beyond that of it's capacity to describe ones preference for one said plastic shippie over another plastic shippie.

Edited by Darkcloak

4 x Blue Squadron Pilot - Fire Control System, Tractor Beam.

Back on topic, B-wings with tractors might just cause TLT's fits. A B-wing can go toe-to-toe with almost anything else point-for-point. TLT Y is just not a great match-up for a B-wing. But being able to fling that Y-wing around? Now we have some potential funsies.

I am considering this squad for next Store Championship if wave 8 hits before. I think the "Tracticians" will be amazing control pieces against a lot what of B-wings hate to see. Stress-hog is stress-hog. And the Rookie can move a little faster and drop some serious damage on anything that was tractored. Stuff that ignores the effect of tractor beam are the sorts of things that B-wings eat for lunch anyway.

Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
R3-A2 (2)
BTL-A4 Y-Wing (0)
Blue Squadron Pilot (22) x2
Tractor Beam (1)
Tactician (2)
B-Wing/E2 (1)
Rookie Pilot (21)
R2 Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Total: 100
Edited by gamblertuba

B-wings technically have an 'answer' to everything already.

Arc-dodgers getting you down? Advanced Sensors!

Twin lasers ruining your day? Ion cannon!

High PS alpha strike killing your b's before they shoot? Take some named pilots (there's 4 to choose from!)

Wow.....people are now saying B-WINGS need a fix?!?!?!

Doesn't BBBBZ just eat up 4 x TLT's these days?

Personally, I think it's only the rise of arc dodgers that are killing B-wings at the moment. I think they will see some reduction with Wave 7 and Imperial Vets coming. Even if it's just fewer people running Palp & 2 Aces. Still, I think ordnance will help hurt the Soontir Fel / Vader meta. I think once things get overall more balanced, we could see B-wings again.

Then again, why always maximize on the same ship type? Why not some sort of combo of TLT's and B-wings in a list? Maybe with one named guy? I tend to like varied lists, not maximized ones (errr....except my Tie Bombers, that is!).

I was thinking about how B-wings have been kind of pushed out of the meta by Y-wings with TLT.

Any Thoughts?

Stay away from people who think like this.

They tried it with X-Wings... now B-Wings too?

Hel-NAH!

:angry:

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Good thing this meta-moo-moo stuff don't effect we Veteran Wingers!

:lol: :D ^_^

That's rather rude. Insinuating anyone who wants ships to be actually good is 'not a real gamer' or somehow inferior to you. Just because you hide it behind smileys, it's a really ugly and smug sentiment.

Considering that JB is one of the more reserved individuals here, I'd warrant that your own opinion is biased, much in the same way you so readily accuse your fellow forum-goers.

Is the B-Wing actually bad? I'd say it's a preference based more on preferred playstyle than anything else. I'm afraid that JB, like many others here, is simply tired of this inflated speech about making ships better. Unless you want to be buying X-WIng codices every 6 months and getting G1-A Starfighters ala' limited edition dataslate formations, then by all means... Fix Away!

YUP... ANYONE who says that so and such ship has no place on the game table... they are NOT a Star Brother of mine, or a sister either for that matter!

:angry:

Veteran Gamers know how to fix little issues and we do not need to come on a game companies forum to scream bloody murder about the gad-**** rules. UHhh-Nah we just house rule it up... glorious like.

See how easy?

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4 x Blue Squadron Pilot - Fire Control System, Tractor Beam.

Now that is what I would define as good, within the parameters of what I prefer to fly in any given X-Wing match.

I can't help but think the integrity of the coveted JBR7 Good Post acolade is damaged a little if you award it to yourself. Such is tyour noble and solitary duty as Good Post officiator: yours alone is the power to grant the Starfighter Sun Of Posting Quality but at the sacrifice of never yourself receiving it.

:'(

I can't help but think the integrity of the coveted JBR7 Good Post acolade is damaged a little if you award it to yourself. Such is tyour noble and solitary duty as Good Post officiator: yours alone is the power to grant the Starfighter Sun Of Posting Quality but at the sacrifice of never yourself receiving it.

:'(

I can't help but think the integrity of the coveted JBR7 Good Post acolade is damaged a little if you award it to yourself. Such is tyour noble and solitary duty as Good Post officiator: yours alone is the power to grant the Starfighter Sun Of Posting Quality but at the sacrifice of never yourself receiving it.

:'(

Shows what you don't know. See how the text was emboldened... that is what got the award... now go argue with somebody that cares.

:rolleyes: :huh: :lol:

Edited by Joe Boss Red Seven

I can't help but think the integrity of the coveted JBR7 Good Post acolade is damaged a little if you award it to yourself. Such is tyour noble and solitary duty as Good Post officiator: yours alone is the power to grant the Starfighter Sun Of Posting Quality but at the sacrifice of never yourself receiving it.

:'(

Wasn't that intended for Darkcloak?

Of course it was... my on point wonderful fellow Winger... YES!

;)

I would really like a little something to add some specificity to the B-wing.

Something like :

Canon upgrade - Modification - 0pts
B-wing only

You can equip up to two Canon upgrades on that ship.
The cheapest of the two upgrades is free.



That would add some polyvalence, without adding to the firepower of the ship, which is fine imo.

I would really like a little something to add some specificity to the B-wing.

Something like :

Canon upgrade - Modification - 0pts

B-wing only

You can equip up to two Canon upgrades on that ship.

The cheapest of the two upgrades is free.

That would add some polyvalence, without adding to the firepower of the ship, which is fine imo.

that sounds VERY unbalanced.