FFG is not going to take unused concept art for ships when there are fully completed and better known versions of those same ships.

I'd actually see the TIE Aggressor having the aux rear arc and the TIE/sf the turret slot. We see the SF turret fire ahead in the movie, while the Aggressor is limited to the rear 200 degrees or so. Personally I left the turret off when I flew the thing in Galaxies, freeing up space for bigger forward guns.

Or you know both imperial ships will have auxillary arcs that cannons can use, or just auxillary ar, and cannons since that seems like more of a what they have doen with Imperials- BobaFett. And no Imperial ship has a Turret upgrade, that i know of. (although the Decimator can use a 360arc...which isnt the same.

If FFG all of a sudden made the imperials start using turrets, then a lot of players are going to need to buy some rebel ships (Kwing for TLT) toget good use of a turret slot ship...an I'm sure it will upset some people.

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If FFG all of a sudden made the imperials start using turrets, then a lot of players are going to need to buy some rebel ships (Kwing for TLT) to get good use of a turret slot ship...an I'm sure it will upset some people.

Well as I said while X-wing is cheaper than most table top minature games you really need to have a secondary faction. Unlike other table tops such as Warhammer or Warmachines the business is set up so that a collector only plays 1 factions maybe two which is also why it is expensive. X-wing is set up with only 3 so players should have two factions and then maybe use the 3rd now and then.

Okay, but we have the BTL title so the gun could still be locked in place.

Yes, in that instance where the Turret is no longer a Turret, you could use that seat for some other crewman.Unless you're planning to also add a Title that removes the turret on the TIE/sf, then there's no reason it should have a Crew slot.

Yeah it's quite simple. You add a crew slot but the card is only playable if you also take BTL-A4...

BTL-A4 was exclusively a single seater - that's why the turret was in a fixed position - no one to operate it

The BTL-A4 is the single pilot turrret locked version.

The BTL-S3 has a pilot & gunner with a turret.

The BTL S3 Courier gets rid of the turret for crew space.

The BTL-B is the fully cowled Clone Wars version.

The BTL-A4 (LP) is the single pilot scout/recon version.

FFG is not going to take unused concept art for ships when there are fully completed and better known versions of those same ships.

Also, TIE Sentinel concept art is technically not unused. As is shows up in an in-game painting in SWG. So the Sentinel exists in-universe as a concept at the very least.

If FFG all of a sudden made the imperials start using turrets, then a lot of players are going to need to buy some rebel ships (Kwing for TLT) toget good use of a turret slot ship...an I'm sure it will upset some people.

FFG is not going to take unused concept art for ships when there are fully completed and better known versions of those same ships.

Yes, they are. Because eventually, FFG is going to run out of fully completed, better known ships to make, and they're still going to want to make new ships.

Also, TIE Sentinel concept art is technically not unused. As is shows up in an in-game painting in SWG. So the Sentinel exists in-universe as a concept at the very least.

If FFG all of a sudden made the imperials start using turrets, then a lot of players are going to need to buy some rebel ships (Kwing for TLT) toget good use of a turret slot ship...an I'm sure it will upset some people.

Seems unlikely to me that the Aggressor wouldn't come with a TLT, given that, according to the lore, it had a turret with two laser cannons in it.

Once they hit the point of needing to use early concept art for the TIE Aggressor to make a new model, FFG would be much better off going to the Prequel era ships with Republic and CIS factions, which are far more iconic (even if some people like to pretend they don't exist)

As for the Aggressor turret, they could equally go with the Dorsal turret, or make a new one. Doesn't necessarily have to be the TLT, even if it is heavily popular right now thanks to being a tad underpriced.

Nah they are better off using original ships than anything from the prequels.

..as a title card "fix" for the TIE/fo.

Yeah, I said it.

Okay, but we have the BTL title so the gun could still be locked in place.

Yes, in that instance where the Turret is no longer a Turret, you could use that seat for some other crewman.Unless you're planning to also add a Title that removes the turret on the TIE/sf, then there's no reason it should have a Crew slot.

Yeah it's quite simple. You add a crew slot but the card is only playable if you also take BTL-A4...

BTL-A4 was exclusively a single seater - that's why the turret was in a fixed position - no one to operate it

They can also make a the Courier version, but If that is too complicated, just use the incorrect title in order to get the crew in. Unless our inner nerds don't allow for this...

I think a Title card to make the TIE/fo into a TIE/sf would be cool.

It should add a Turret slot but with a point cap on what can be equipped. Maybe also add a Missile slot.

The Impies could use a turret anyway. It makes no sense for them not to have one. "We hate effective weapon systems!"

I think a Title card to make the TIE/fo into a TIE/sf would be cool. ...

Is the cockpit for the SF bigger than the FO since it has accommodations for a gunner seat in addition to the pilot? Also, the panel arms seem decidedly different looking. And there's the swivel mount for the gun...

I'm actually hoping the do make a new mini for the SF, similar as it may be to the two other TIE Fighters.

I think if the ship appears in the movies, then there is pretty much no doubt that we will get it.

Nope.

I think if the ship appears in the movies, then there is pretty much no doubt that we will get it.

Nope.

To be fair, that's not a space ship. That's an atmospheric craft like a snowspeeder.

I think if the ship appears in the movies, then there is pretty much no doubt that we will get it.

Nope.

He said Ship.

Not Airspeeder.

Still waiting for my T-16 converted to space duty.

Edit: GUNBOAT!

why would the rebels have a new falcon that's literally the same as the old falcon

which is what that falcon was

but the radar is different and also it would have a whole new bunch of pilots. Rey at PS7 with some crazy maneuvering stuff or something to make you want to use the actual firing arc (broken gun scene) would be fun.

the tie/sf and black one are higher wants for me, tho.

why would the rebels have a new falcon that's literally the same as the old falcon

which is what that falcon was

but the radar is different and also it would have a whole new bunch of pilots. Rey at PS7 with some crazy maneuvering stuff or something to make you want to use the actual firing arc (broken gun scene) would be fun.

the tie/sf and black one are higher wants for me, tho.

We got, new X-wings, New B-wing, New A-wings, New TIE Interceptors, ... I think FFG has shown that they are willing to release ships that are basically the same ship as before. I would love a FA YT-1300

Pilots for scum on the falcon are much needed. Ducain, Unkar Plutt and who ever else stole the hunk of junk, along with a generic pilot of course. Get to it FFG!

Oh and I guess Rey could be a special Resistence pilot with a generic (Resistence scavenger or something). Primarily this needs to b a scum set.

Due to lack of confidence in my own painting skills, I'll concur on wanting Poe's black X-wing; and the TIE/sf, Ren's command shuttle, TFA Falcon (at least cards) and possibly even the transports used by the Resistance and the First Order. Given the sadness of ships like the Punisher, I'd say it's time to look somewhere other than obscure EU at least for some ships.

Just sharing for the sake of the thread, from the Incredible Cross-Sections book...

Notable features of the TIE/sf Special Forces TIE fighter:

- TWO independent Ion Reactors on either side of the cockpit increase speed/maneuverability, and free up space inside the cockpit ball for the gunner's position.

- Rotating underslung turret with twin blaster cannons, mag-pulse and concussion missile launcher, as well as the standard pair of front-mounted blaster cannons.

- Miniaturized Hyperdrive

- Miniaturized shields

- Reinforced hull, due to greatly increased weight of the fighter vs the TIE/fo

- Racks of pre-charged deuterium power cells (The cogs on the wing struts) allowing the pilot to quickly boost power to weapons, shields, engines. Can be recharged via wing solar panels.


It's made quite clear that the both the TIE/fo and TIE/sf, while visually similar to the classic TIE/ln, both benefit greatly from research gleaned during the TIE Advanced program, and have more in common with the X1 than the TIE/ln or any of its derivatives.

Or the TIE Agressor.

No, the Aggressor has two lasers mounted in front and two in a turret. That's a fixed 2 standard attack + Turret slot.

The Sentinel has two lasers mounted in a front turret, and another two in a turret in the back. That's a 2 attack PWT + Turret slot. Just like the K-Wing.

I've been convinced that the dial won't be a nerfed FO, but I still think the guns will have 3 fwd and 2 in the aft aux arc.

I'm really thinking that it will have TIE Advanced x1 upgrades options and hull + shields. Though it might also have the tech slot so that it could use Comm Relay.

I'm also thinking that it's going to be one **** expensive ship. But I bet we'll see soon.

Poe Dameron doesn't shoot in the movie, relying completely in Finn's cannon. That could mean the chin tubes are in fact missile launchers, like in the TIE Defender.

Or the TIE Agressor.

No, the Aggressor has two lasers mounted in front and two in a turret. That's a fixed 2 standard attack + Turret slot.

The Sentinel has two lasers mounted in a front turret, and another two in a turret in the back. That's a 2 attack PWT + Turret slot. Just like the K-Wing.

I've been convinced that the dial won't be a nerfed FO, but I still think the guns will have 3 fwd and 2 in the aft aux arc.

I'm really thinking that it will have TIE Advanced x1 upgrades options and hull + shields. Though it might also have the tech slot so that it could use Comm Relay.

I'm also thinking that it's going to be one **** expensive ship. But I bet we'll see soon.

Poe Dameron doesn't shoot in the movies, relying completely in Finn's cannon. That could mean the chin tubes are in fact missile launchers, like in the TIE Defender.

Nah.

Poe says the gunner controls the Mag Pulses too. That means they're on the turret.

Or the TIE Agressor.

No, the Aggressor has two lasers mounted in front and two in a turret. That's a fixed 2 standard attack + Turret slot.

The Sentinel has two lasers mounted in a front turret, and another two in a turret in the back. That's a 2 attack PWT + Turret slot. Just like the K-Wing.

I've been convinced that the dial won't be a nerfed FO, but I still think the guns will have 3 fwd and 2 in the aft aux arc.

I'm really thinking that it will have TIE Advanced x1 upgrades options and hull + shields. Though it might also have the tech slot so that it could use Comm Relay.

I'm also thinking that it's going to be one **** expensive ship. But I bet we'll see soon.

Poe Dameron doesn't shoot in the movie, relying completely in Finn's cannon. That could mean the chin tubes are in fact missile launchers, like in the TIE Defender.

The chin guns are blaster cannons.

Also, the turret gun CAN be controlled by the primary pilot, but is optimally operated by a gunner in the rear seat.

Not sure about the price, but here it goes my last version:

It is supposedly a fast ship, so the title should have something to do with free boost action.

Or the TIE Agressor.

No, the Aggressor has two lasers mounted in front and two in a turret. That's a fixed 2 standard attack + Turret slot.

The Sentinel has two lasers mounted in a front turret, and another two in a turret in the back. That's a 2 attack PWT + Turret slot. Just like the K-Wing.

I've been convinced that the dial won't be a nerfed FO, but I still think the guns will have 3 fwd and 2 in the aft aux arc.

I'm really thinking that it will have TIE Advanced x1 upgrades options and hull + shields. Though it might also have the tech slot so that it could use Comm Relay.

I'm also thinking that it's going to be one **** expensive ship. But I bet we'll see soon.

Poe Dameron doesn't shoot in the movies, relying completely in Finn's cannon. That could mean the chin tubes are in fact missile launchers, like in the TIE Defender.

Nah.

Poe says the gunner controls the Mag Pulses too. That means they're on the turret.

Where does it state that the gunner can only fire the turret?