Had one opponent claim that it's in the rules that he can request to spin through my dial and see all my possible maneuvers before I have placed it. He also said he can instead choose to use his browser or a squad build app to look at all my possible maneuvers.

Is this in the rules? I couldn't find it, but it does sound plausible since it would even the playing field between new players who don't know dials well, and veterans who have memorized everything.

The make-up of the dials in the game is public knowledge and should be available to anyone who wants it. If the only way to convey that info is by the opponent looking to you dial before you set it, that's kind of annoying but....

Every ship comes with a little chart that shows every maneuver on its dial and recommends that it be available to players to reference during play. Several people have made up reference guides that they keep with them during games so players can check what maneuvers are possible.

One of the handiest things that a Tournament Organizer can give as door prizes are little cards that have EVERY maneuver available.

Admittedly, Scum kind of killed the ability to do this as elegantly...

The last page of the rulebook has the following:

I've kept one copy of each insert from every ship, and it's in my main X-Wing bag so I always have them. This way, I can always reference a ship that I may not play against often, or to provide to my opponents if they want to see what the ships are capable of.

You could tell him he has to look it up himself, but that just wastes time. I typically ask nicely if I can see a specific ships dial and its never been a problem. Fo me, I never play rebels so I am much less familiar with their maneuvers.

Had one opponent claim that it's in the rules that he can request to spin through my dial and see all my possible maneuvers before I have placed it. He also said he can instead choose to use his browser or a squad build app to look at all my possible maneuvers.

Is this in the rules? I couldn't find it, but it does sound plausible since it would even the playing field between new players who don't know dials well, and veterans who have memorized everything.

There's a special piece of cardboard in each expansion blister with all maneuvers of a ship.

handle one to your foe and grin widely

Pssst,

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/106743-handy-all-ships-in-one-maneuver-reference-card-ready-for-print/

Where in the rules does it say that my opponent can use my dial to determine possible maneuvers?

Information is freely available and if you're going to a tournament, prepare by either bringing a copy of the maneuver lists or downloading images on your phone. I dont like the idea of stopping play to let you use my stuff to help you plan your moves.

They dont, but they also dont say lots of other things that are common practices. You can be the guy that says no and then wait while your opponent googles it instead. If you want play sped up, the TO will tell you that handeing over your dial would do that, from the ones I know, including myself.

Yeah no problem with it before setting the dial.

I would find it aggravating to have play slowed down by it being asked regularly, especially when the manouvers are so readily available from the expansion insterts (I have all my expansions manouvers charts in my bag) and from free apps.

I've never had this happen and would show the dial but I do wonder where you draw the line of its persistent or if you even can draw it at all.

Ya, I would never allow every round. When Ive done it, it might happen once over 5 games or something like that. Very situational.

They dont

This is my basic issue. Too many people claim they can do things that are "in the rules" but really aren't. It's one thing to ask and state that it is commonly accepted practice, but another thing to imply that you have to allow it per the rules.

Too many people claim they can do things that are "in the rules" but really aren't.

To be fair, no one has said they were.

If the other guy asks to see your dial, you can say no, and there's really little anyone can do about it. If they don't have a way to look it up, it's their loss. A TO should not demand that one player hand over their items to another player generally speaking. There is a case where the players have to share templates... but that's a different thing.

That said a TO can do pretty much anything they want, so if they asked you to let the other guy see your dial, and you refused they could if they wanted to DQ from the whole tournament due to sportsmanship.

I don't think that would be fair, and I'd never take part in a event with that TO again. But it is allowed per the rules.

Too many people claim they can do things that are "in the rules" but really aren't.

To be fair, no one has said they were.If the other guy asks to see your dial, you can say no, and there's really little anyone can do about it. If they don't have a way to look it up, it's their loss. A TO should not demand that one player hand over their items to another player generally speaking. There is a case where the players have to share templates... but that's a different thing.That said a TO can do pretty much anything they want, so if they asked you to let the other guy see your dial, and you refused they could if they wanted to DQ from the whole tournament due to sportsmanship.I don't think that would be fair, and I'd never take part in a event with that TO again. But it is allowed per the rules.

Agreed on all accounts

Were I the TO, somebody asking to examine their opponent's dials repeatedly (especially given how many alternatives exist) would certainly be considered slow play.

The thing is, somebody refusing that first request and demanding a rules reference or a TO ruling probably would, too.

I actually have never seen this occur, but it might become a thing once the JumpMaster is released with its asymmetric dial.

I actually have never seen this occur, but it might become a thing once the JumpMaster is released with its asymmetric dial.

Hopefully ChumpMasters will anticipate the confusion and be ready with reference cards.

I had a similar situation at my last tournement exceptt I was the one asking. Not for the dial but I asked him if his ship could make X move while setting my own dials. He then responded with "I don't have to tell you that" Then I responded that I was going to look it up on the app on my phone. He then claimed that I was violating the rules by doing that in a huff.

When it comes to the dials I'm pretty sure you can ask to inspect and peice of your opponents peices, dials inlcuded. Maybe not for the reason to check what moves they can do but to make sure the dial is legal.

When it comes to the dials I'm pretty sure you can ask to inspect and peice of your opponents peices, dials inlcuded.

Actually the rules say no such thing, at least not that I can find. If there's a question about something you can call the TO over. But you can not make the other player hand something over to you.

I had a similar situation at my last tournement exceptt I was the one asking. Not for the dial but I asked him if his ship could make X move while setting my own dials. He then responded with "I don't have to tell you that" Then I responded that I was going to look it up on the app on my phone. He then claimed that I was violating the rules by doing that in a huff.

When it comes to the dials I'm pretty sure you can ask to inspect and peice of your opponents peices, dials inlcuded. Maybe not for the reason to check what moves they can do but to make sure the dial is legal.

The closest thing in the Tournament Rules would be under the Squad Deployment section, where it says both players reveal all components in their squads. This makes your opponent's components available for inspection, primarily so you can see if there's any components that are going to affect your game, such as a Rebel Captive, etc. So you would have an opportunity to inspect ANY component during the Squad Deployment.

On the back of the Rule books and in every expansion, there are ship maneuver tables and the text there states "players can reference these at any time." So his claim that you were violating the rules is complete hogwash. He may not feel obliged to tell you if one of his ships has a particular maneuver, but you are most definitely free to look it up via expansion card, web or app.

I have the expansion pack inserts from a dozen different ships in front of me now. Every single one has a chart of possible manoeuvres and this text: "The table below lists all possible maneuvers that a <ShipName> can execute. Keep this sheet on hand so that players can reference this table at any time."

Am I the only person who keeps these slips of paper with my ships so players can reference them at any time? If you're annoyed by requests to see your dials is it too difficult to bring an alternative reference?

Am I the only person who keeps these slips of paper with my ships so players can reference them at any time? If you're annoyed by requests to see your dials is it too difficult to bring an alternative reference?

There are some people who keep the actual slips that come with the expansions. There are many more who have printed out play aids that consolodate that info into a more easily used reference.

Am I the only person who keeps these slips of paper with my ships so players can reference them at any time?

No

I have been asked to look at my dials and have done the same on occasion when flying against a ship from a new wave I have not had a chance to look at properly yet. I have no problem with it and have never come across anyone who has.

I keep meaning to print out the reference cards for ease of use by never get around to doing so.