It is gencon : drop when appropriate and go enjoy nerd Valhalla. This isn't about hacking a stiff English upper lip
I am flying Han with Luke, C3P0, title, engine, and predator. Jake has vi, ptl, title, Prockets, and auto thrusters. (97). William in second place is flying exactly he same list !
If I was at a regional and not performing well, our even the national at a different venue, I wouldn't drop, but I'd say there's nothing wrong with dropping at nationals the way it is because it's at a huge convention. I'd rather be enjoying the convention and just play more x wing when I get home.
Turrets galore and no phantoms. Dat phantom nerf doe.
It is gencon : drop when appropriate and go enjoy nerd Valhalla. This isn't about hacking a stiff English upper lip
I am flying Han with Luke, C3P0, title, engine, and predator. Jake has vi, ptl, title, Prockets, and auto thrusters. (97). William in second place is flying exactly he same list !
It is nice to see that the only named A-wing in my House Rules that I did not tweak has been doing well in Regionals and now Nationals!
It is nice to see that the only named A-wing in my House Rules that I did not tweak has been doing well in Regionals and now Nationals!
Built and flown correctly, Jake is almost the Rebel Soontir. =) To me, that makes Han/Jake kind of the Rebel version of Chirpy/Fel.
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It is nice to see that the only named A-wing in my House Rules that I did not tweak has been doing well in Regionals and now Nationals!
Built and flown correctly, Jake is almost the Rebel Soontir. =) To me, that makes Han/Jake kind of the Rebel version of Chirpy/Fel.
Yep, 3 actions on both. I still think Soontir is slightly better because of the 3 native attack, stealth device stack, and more flexibility with his action economy, but Jake's Proton Rockets at least helps offset the damage difference.
The only reason Jake isn't the Rebel Soontir (capable of PS9 + PTL no less!) is because he trades an attack die for cheaper durability. He even ends up with the same capability of boost+roll+focus triple-threat actions.
In general play, this is a perfectly reasonable deal - but in terms of 'murdering entire lists singlehandedly', that extra attack die is a critical advantage in shooting through the defensive token stacks of his ace counterparts, be they Soontir, Iggy, or Corran. Target Lock helps (Especially at boosting those range-1 shots when you get the chance), and Prockets can give you a critical damage spike... but it's a handicap in such mirror-duels, no doubt.
... of course, flown as a wingman to a super-murdery ship like a Predator+Luke'd Han Solo... yeah, you have better odds of those
particular
ships not being a problem by the time you're the last man standing, and you're a right pain in the ass against everyone else.
Han/Jake lists also land at 97 points. That's the real power versus Fel.
Han/Jake lists also land at 97 points. That's the real power versus Fel.
Point cost: the great equalizer
It is gencon : drop when appropriate and go enjoy nerd Valhalla. This isn't about hacking a stiff English upper lip
I am flying Han with Luke, C3P0, title, engine, and predator. Jake has vi, ptl, title, Prockets, and auto thrusters. (97). William in second place is flying exactly he same list !
Well done with our list! You didn't even need any tips from little old me!
Thanks all, lets see if some boots on the ground can fill in the rest of the red TBDs this morning!
Edit -- pulled in some updates from the NOVA Facebook page.
Up-to-date-list will be kept on post #2 here:
https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/178660-2015-nationals-results/#entry1641036
Top 16 after Swiss:
- Mishary Alfaris : Dash + Title + HLC + Predator + Recon Spec; Chewbacca + Predator + Title
- William Wadden : YT-1300 {pilot and upgrades?}; Jake {upgrades}
- Zachary Bart : Corran { upgrades unknown }; Jake { upgrades unknown }; Gold + Ion Cannon Turrret + BTL-A4 + R3-A2
- Lyle Hayhurst : Han {upgrades unknown} ; Jake {upgrades unknown}
- Mark Moriarity : TBD
- Zack Mathews : Gold Squadron Pilot + R3-A2 + Autoblaster Turret; 2x Blue Squadron Pilot + Fire-Control System + Tactician; 2x Bandit Squadron Pilot
- Jeff Berling : TBD
- Jeremy Howard : 4x Blue + Accuracy Corrector
- Ron Brannan : BBBBZ
- Nick Jones : Howlrunner + Determination; Backstabber; 5x Obsidian
- Andrew Johnson : TBD
- Daniel Hars : TBD
- Phillip Horny : TBD
- Jonathan Grasser : Chewbacca { upgrades ?}; Vrill {upgrades?}
- Jeff Bizzach : Oicunn {upgrades?}; Soontir Fel {upgrades?}
- Kyle Adams : Dash + Title + Mangler + { upgrades ?}; Corran + PtL + Engine + { FCS + R2-D2? }
Zachary Bart: Corran VI, FCS, R2D2, Jake PTL, Prockets, AT, Title, VI
Jonathan Grasser: If it's the guy I played, Chewie: Predator, Luke, C3P0, Title, Vrill HLC Recon Spec, APL. Please have someone else verify though, lots of double pancakes yesterday
**** only 2 Imperial lists and 0 SV lists in the top 16 so far? I find that surprising, particularly the S&V part, especially with how well IG88s have been performing in smaller tournaments, but maybe that's the key difference.
**** only 2 Imperial lists and 0 SV lists in the top 16 so far? I find that surprising, particularly the S&V part, especially with how well IG88s have been performing in smaller tournaments, but maybe that's the key difference.
There were at least three Brobots lists in the photo I posted from the top table in Round 7. Did they all lose?
**** only 2 Imperial lists and 0 SV lists in the top 16 so far? I find that surprising, particularly the S&V part, especially with how well IG88s have been performing in smaller tournaments, but maybe that's the key difference.
There were at least three Brobots lists in the photo I posted from the top table in Round 7. Did they all lose?
James Beaver flies BroBots and he finished further down the final standings, but I don't know if he was high up enough to be on those tables.
We need Sable Gryphon and "Crashing Rebellion-fest" to the rescue.
The tables are set. Dials are down. Engines are started. And there are 8 B-wings on table 6.
"The only good B-Wing is a dead B-Wing!" -Johnny Rico
Big ship turrets and B-Wings. Yay.
It is nice to see that the only named A-wing in my House Rules that I did not tweak has been doing well in Regionals and now Nationals!
Built and flown correctly, Jake is almost the Rebel Soontir. =) To me, that makes Han/Jake kind of the Rebel version of Chirpy/Fel.
Yep, 3 actions on both. I still think Soontir is slightly better because of the 3 native attack, stealth device stack, and more flexibility with his action economy, but Jake's Proton Rockets at least helps offset the damage difference.
Hmm, but why not Tycho over Jake? Yes he gets 1 less action, but he's pretty much immune to stress, can use the whole dial and he goes up to PS10 which even beats Corran if you go for 97pts.
Because he gets 1 less action and is 2 points more expensive.
1 less action. With AT and PTL Jake can shrug off a lot of fire from turrets while boosting. Tycho can't do that and just dies.
There seems to be a lot more diversity than that. There's even a tie swarm!
Though I wish we were seeing more imperial lists. Mais, c'est la vie.
Hmm, but why not Tycho over Jake? Yes he gets 1 less action, but he's pretty much immune to stress, can use the whole dial and he goes up to PS10 which even beats Corran if you go for 97pts.
Cons:
Pro:
I have always considered Tycho overcosted by about 2 points, but Jake is OK. This seems validated by the last few months of tournament results.
1 less action. With AT and PTL Jake can shrug off a lot of fire from turrets while boosting. Tycho can't do that and just dies.
I guess i understand, but it probably also depends on your local meta a lot. If you see a lot of Corrans i'd argue that Tycho is still your guy because it will be that much easier to land those prockets on Corran if you move after him. Can't argue with results though, obviously.
Edited by CelesTop 16 Update from Neil Amswych:
John Grasser
Chewbacca + Predator + Luke + C-3PO + MF
Vrill + HLC (no title) + Recon Specialist + Anti-pursuit Lasers
has defeated:
Zachary Bart
Corran + VI + FCS + R2D2
Jake + VI + PtL + Proton Rockets + title + Autothrusters
Gold + Ion Cannon Turrret + BTL-A4 + R3-A2
Killed Corran in one turn, killed Y in one turn then killed Jake.