Agnes Baker and the Innsmouth Gate Cards

By Whitmire, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

The author Agnes Baker has the ability to choose from two gate cards when she is in an other world.

Now, with Innsmouth Horror we get cards saying "Discard this card and draw again".

Do these cards count as choices for Agnes or do you think we should first draw cards to replace the "Discard this card and draw again" cards (or DTCADACs) before Agnes chooses her cards? Because it is a huge depreciation of her ability if we do not replace the DTCADACs before the choice, considering how many of these cards are now in the deck.

On the other hand I always tend to read the rules against the players instead of in favour of them. In our last game (without Agnes, but with some choice of cards nevertheless) I ruled that the player who got to choose from two gate cards had to choose from one card the contents of which he knew and a DTCADAC. In a very Lovecraftian decision he chose the devil he knew instead of the devil he didn't...

So, what do you think?

First off, Gloria Goldberg is the Author, Agnes is the Waitress. Second, I don't think those cards count, for Gloria, draw until you get 2 usable ones from which to choose from. If your shuffle-fu is high, you might keep getting the OW "shuffle this deck" cards multiple times in one encounter.

Oh no, a major error, but I can't alter the topic... Lose 1 Sanity.

The AH box is not available to me, so I tried my best to remember her name... And she looks like an Agnes to me!

As to your reply, I thought it might be like that, but since there is no mention in the IH rules about whether we should discard it before or after "Agnes" has made her decision, I thought I'd rather not make the game any easier. Hence my harsh ruling in our last game.

After the game I thought about Gloria's ability and decided it might be a bit too harsh for her, which lead me here asking these questions.

I look at those IH specific-OW cards as OW cards that didn't match the OW I was in, unless I got the right one. I mean, Gloria in R'lyeh (Red/Yellow) keeps drawing until she gets 2 Red/Yellow cards then chooses, even though Blues and Greens have "Other" option as well. The IH specific-OW cards are just more targetted, nothing more IMO.

Sounds logical. I think we'll adapt that interpretation of the rules from now on. Besides, Gloria Goldberg is a lot of fun to play thanks to her ability (like Darryll Simmons) and I wouldn't want to take that part of it away.

Thanks for your help!

You could look at it another way and say that if she chose the "Discard and draw again" card, she'd then be able to draw two new cards as per her text, and choose between the two new ones. That's of course more beneficial to the player, but I think the rules allow for it.